FBI Raids Trump Lawyer’s Office

 

The FBI has raided the office of President Trump’s personal lawyer, Michael Cohen. From the New York Times:

Federal prosecutors in Manhattan obtained the search warrant after receiving a referral from the special counsel, Robert S. Mueller III, according to Mr. Cohen’s lawyer, who called the search “completely inappropriate and unnecessary.” The search does not appear to be directly related to Mr. Mueller’s investigation, but likely resulted from information he had uncovered and gave to prosecutors in New York.

“Today the U.S. Attorney’s Office for the Southern District of New York executed a series of search warrants and seized the privileged communications between my client, Michael Cohen, and his clients,” said Stephen Ryan, his lawyer. “I have been advised by federal prosecutors that the New York action is, in part, a referral by the Office of Special Counsel, Robert Mueller.”

Mr. Cohen plays a role in aspects of the special counsel’s investigation into Russian interference in the 2016 presidential election. He also recently said he paid $130,000 to a pornographic-film actress, Stephanie Clifford, who said she had an affair with Mr. Trump. Ms. Clifford is known as Stormy Daniels.

 

This investigation has gone from “Trump colluded with Putin to steal American democracy” to “Trump diddled a porn star” in about a year. Hopefully Mueller will wrap up this investigation soon.

What do you think, Ricochetti? Is this big or blah?

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  1. blood thirsty neocon Inactive
    blood thirsty neocon
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    If you want Mueller, Rosenstein, et al gone, vote Republican this November. If we hold the House, Trump can just fire them all.

    • #61
  2. A-Squared Inactive
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    RufusRJones (View Comment):
    Not in Russia. He was under surveillance and the KGB was trying to entrap him the whole time and he knew it. Everyone that is famous or powerful is in that situation when they go over there. This is basic stuff. 

    What evidence do you have that Trump knew the KGB was trying to entrap him when he was there?

    I’m not disputing your statement, it just seems that you are relying on “everyone knows it” which doesn’t strike me as something that accurately describes Trump.  

    • #62
  3. DrewInWisconsin Member
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    A-Squared (View Comment):

    I’ve seen a comment from Cohen that said the raid was unnecessary. I have no reason to dispute that because I presume most legitimate attorneys will comply with a subpoena.

    I’ve also seen the raid described as a “No-Knock raid” which to me is excessive and probably unnecessary. 

    The point of such things is intimidation. Ask Paul Manafort. Heck, ask the victims of the John Doe raids in Wisconsin.

     

    • #63
  4. blood thirsty neocon Inactive
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    RufusRJones (View Comment):

    blood thirsty neocon (View Comment):
    Prostitutes in Russia: True

    Are you serious?

    @rufusjones, you totally took my comment out of context. I was speaking hypothetically about why Trump wouldn’t just release the FISC documentation. 

    • #64
  5. RufusRJones Member
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    A-Squared (View Comment):

    RufusRJones (View Comment):
    Not in Russia. He was under surveillance and the KGB was trying to entrap him the whole time and he knew it. Everyone that is famous or powerful is in that situation when they go over there. This is basic stuff.

    What evidence do you have that Trump knew the KGB was trying to entrap him when he was there?

    I’m not disputing your statement, it just seems that you are relying on “everyone knows it” which doesn’t strike me as something that accurately describes Trump.

     He has tons of security guys and lawyers advising him and he’s obviously in “Indian country”. People think he’s impulsive on everything. He isn’t. He can’t be.

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  6. Valiuth Member
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    Hypatia (View Comment):

    RufusRJones (View Comment):

    Valiuth (View Comment):
    the vulgarity of the man

    Valiuth (View Comment):
    indignity of it all

    How did it come to this?

    It came to this because of people like your interlocutor here, who don’t like the choice the American people made.

    We are here because of the choices Trump has made. No one forced him to have sex with Stormy. No one forced Cohen to pay her to not disclose the affair, and no one forced them to potentially break laws and commit other ethical violations. The president isn’t above the law or beyond reproach. Had the American people chosen differently I think you would be keen on investigating Clinton’s wrong doings past and ongoing. Would that be because you hadn’t liked the decision the people had made? 

    • #66
  7. Valiuth Member
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    blood thirsty neocon (View Comment):

    Herbert defender of the Realm,… (View Comment):

    Valiuth (View Comment):

    blood thirsty neocon (View Comment):

    My guess is that the FISC court application is a complicated matter. If he makes it public, then we will find out exactly which Steele dossier allegations were corroborated. It may run something like:

    Prostitutes in Russia: True

    Peeing on the bed: Not True

    etc.

    Is that a fun conversation to have?

    What if (and I admit this is only my childish and fevered dream/hope) the only thing that is true in the dossier (that wasn’t public knowledge at that point already) is the peeing on the bed. No collusion or plans with Russian agents, but Trump totally hired hookers to pee on a bed Obama slept in. That would be beautiful and witnessing the reaction to that would be magnificent. Would Hannity express his support for this strange and not uncommon fetish? Would Jerry Falwell Jr. remind us that King David also had the Queen of Sheba pee on a bed as well? I want to see how far Trump’s most ardent media supporters can go in defending the vulgarity of the man in the absence of a crime. Because frankly hiring sexy Russian women to pee on a bed you are renting is not a crime. And he did give us tax cuts and Gorsuch.

    I know this is a pipe dream, because if it were true and confirmed in the FISA warrant it surely would have leaked by now from the Dems that have looked at it. But, the spectacle of seeing this confirmed and the media coverage of it would make a burlesque circus look like high mass performed by the pope. The sheer stupidity and indignity of it all would almost be transcendent. Maybe only then could we be certain we have hit cultural rock bottom.

    would it be one mulligan for doing number one on a bed, or would it necessitate two mulligans for the two hookers?

    As long as I get to keep my tax cut, I don’t care.

    Well only for ten years. The individual cuts are due to sunset because of Reconciliation. 

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  8. Herbert defender of the Realm,… Member
    Herbert defender of the Realm,…
    @Herbert

    blood thirsty neocon (View Comment):

    Valiuth (View Comment):

    blood thirsty neocon (View Comment):

    My guess is that the FISC court application is a complicated matter. If he makes it public, then we will find out exactly which Steele dossier allegations were corroborated. It may run something like:

    Prostitutes in Russia: True

    Peeing on the bed: Not True

    etc.

    Is that a fun conversation to have?

    What if (and I admit this is only my childish and fevered dream/hope) the only thing that is true in the dossier (that wasn’t public knowledge at that point already) is the peeing on the bed.

    Trump is a germophobe. The thought of prostitutes peeing on a bed probably disgusts him.

    He’s not germophobe enough to wear condoms with his sexual partners…

    • #68
  9. RufusRJones Member
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    blood thirsty neocon (View Comment):

    RufusRJones (View Comment):

    blood thirsty neocon (View Comment):
    Prostitutes in Russia: True

    Are you serious?

    @rufusjones, you totally took my comment out of context. I was speaking hypothetically about why Trump wouldn’t just release the FISC documentation.

    OK, sorry.

    • #69
  10. Basil Fawlty Member
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    Valiuth (View Comment):
    The documents would go to a special team of lawyers separate from the DA who would go through the records and only give to the DA none privileged material.

    Snicker.

    • #70
  11. Hypatia Member
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    blood thirsty neocon (View Comment):

    Valiuth (View Comment):

    blood thirsty neocon (View Comment):

    My guess is that the FISC court application is a complicated matter. If he makes it public, then we will find out exactly which Steele dossier allegations were corroborated. It may run something like:

    Prostitutes in Russia: True

    Peeing on the bed: Not True

    etc.

    Is that a fun conversation to have?

    What if (and I admit this is only my childish and fevered dream/hope) the only thing that is true in the dossier (that wasn’t public knowledge at that point already) is the peeing on the bed.

    Trump is a germophobe. The thought of prostitutes peeing on a bed probably disgusts him.

    Oh you’d love to see the reaction if you could prove Trump got hookers to pee on a pillow Mama Obama and Buraq Hussein had used? That’s your “hope and dream”?   So  typical from this source. Thanks for meeting the standard we’ve come to expect!

    I’ll tell you what my reaction would be:

    If only they had peed it before the Zeros slept there!

    • #71
  12. Valiuth Member
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    blood thirsty neocon (View Comment):

    If you want Mueller, Rosenstein, et al gone, vote Republican this November. If we hold the House, Trump can just fire them all.

    Wow, best argument I’ve heard for voting Democrat ever. If you want to make the president unaccountable vote Republican. Honestly we will make sure to let him do whatever he wants. That isn’t swampy at all. 

    With that camapign promise how could the people not support the Republican party? I guess the integrity of Jeff Sessions is all that stands between rule of law and full on Bannon Republicanism. If he holds the line he might end up as the greatest lawyer since St. Thomas Moore. 

    • #72
  13. cdor Member
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    DrewInWisconsin (View Comment):

    Fred Cole (View Comment):
    Any investigation that gets near Donald Trump was bound to find crimes, likely owing to the fact that Donald Trump is a dirtbag.

    Well reasoned and insightful.

    Ha!

    • #73
  14. PHCheese Inactive
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    I have heard this this is an attempt to squeeze Cohen. What has happened today is highly irregular and probably illegal. I doubt many people would consider it out of bounds for Trump to pardon Cohen in the same spirit of irregular. Tit for tat.

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  15. blood thirsty neocon Inactive
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    RufusRJones (View Comment):

    blood thirsty neocon (View Comment):

    RufusRJones (View Comment):

    blood thirsty neocon (View Comment):
    Prostitutes in Russia: True

    Are you serious?

    @rufusjones, you totally took my comment out of context. I was speaking hypothetically about why Trump wouldn’t just release the FISC documentation.

    OK, sorry.

    Apology accepted. Now, go now, and sin no more.

    • #75
  16. Herbert defender of the Realm,… Member
    Herbert defender of the Realm,…
    @Herbert

    Hypatia (View Comment):

    blood thirsty neocon (View Comment):

    Valiuth (View Comment):

    blood thirsty neocon (View Comment):

    My guess is that the FISC court application is a complicated matter. If he makes it public, then we will find out exactly which Steele dossier allegations were corroborated. It may run something like:

    Prostitutes in Russia: True

    Peeing on the bed: Not True

    etc.

    Is that a fun conversation to have?

    What if (and I admit this is only my childish and fevered dream/hope) the only thing that is true in the dossier (that wasn’t public knowledge at that point already) is the peeing on the bed.

    Trump is a germophobe. The thought of prostitutes peeing on a bed probably disgusts him.

    Oh you’d love to see the reaction if you could prove Trump got hookers to pee on a pillow Mama Obama and Buraq Hussein had used? That’s your “hope and dream”? So typical from this source. Thanks for meeting the standard we’ve come to expect!

    I’ll tell you what my reaction would be:

    If only they had peed it before the Zeros slept there!

    Well there you go…. a non perverted (btw using perverted in a non judgemental way,  maybe weird or unusual would be better words to use) explanation for his Moscow actions…. hoping Barack and Michelle would come use the same room again.

    • #76
  17. blood thirsty neocon Inactive
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    Herbert defender of the Realm,… (View Comment):

    blood thirsty neocon (View Comment):

    Valiuth (View Comment):

    blood thirsty neocon (View Comment):

    My guess is that the FISC court application is a complicated matter. If he makes it public, then we will find out exactly which Steele dossier allegations were corroborated. It may run something like:

    Prostitutes in Russia: True

    Peeing on the bed: Not True

    etc.

    Is that a fun conversation to have?

    What if (and I admit this is only my childish and fevered dream/hope) the only thing that is true in the dossier (that wasn’t public knowledge at that point already) is the peeing on the bed.

    Trump is a germophobe. The thought of prostitutes peeing on a bed probably disgusts him.

    He’s not germophobe enough to wear condoms with his sexual partners…

    Piece of advice:  don’t believe everything a porn star with her hand out tells you.

    • #77
  18. Valiuth Member
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    Herbert defender of the Realm,… (View Comment):

    blood thirsty neocon (View Comment):

    Valiuth (View Comment):

    blood thirsty neocon (View Comment):

    My guess is that the FISC court application is a complicated matter. If he makes it public, then we will find out exactly which Steele dossier allegations were corroborated. It may run something like:

    Prostitutes in Russia: True

    Peeing on the bed: Not True

    etc.

    Is that a fun conversation to have?

    What if (and I admit this is only my childish and fevered dream/hope) the only thing that is true in the dossier (that wasn’t public knowledge at that point already) is the peeing on the bed.

    Trump is a germophobe. The thought of prostitutes peeing on a bed probably disgusts him.

    He’s not germophobe to wear condoms with his sexual partners…

    Urine is sterile. 

    • #78
  19. blood thirsty neocon Inactive
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    Valiuth (View Comment):

    Hypatia (View Comment):

    RufusRJones (View Comment):

    Valiuth (View Comment):
    the vulgarity of the man

    Valiuth (View Comment):
    indignity of it all

    How did it come to this?

    It came to this because of people like your interlocutor here, who don’t like the choice the American people made.

    We are here because of the choices Trump has made. No one forced him to have sex with Stormy. No one forced Cohen to pay her to not disclose the affair, and no one forced them to potentially break laws and commit other ethical violations. The president isn’t above the law or beyond reproach. Had the American people chosen differently I think you would be keen on investigating Clinton’s wrong doings past and ongoing. Would that be because you hadn’t liked the decision the people had made?

     

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  20. Hypatia Member
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    Alan Dershowitz is on Hannity saying exactly the same things I have said in my comments here.  This is an attack on the attorney client relationship.   A very  dangerous development.  Cohen was a cooperating witness; a no-knock raid was unnecessary and an intimidation tactic.  And if it had been done to Clinton’s private counsel, there would be wailing and gnashing of teeth on CNN.  It is unprecedented.  

    Also the brilliant and always well-prepared Greg Jarret: Mueller  has forgotten the canon of ethics.  The president’s attorneys should file an immediate motion to quash the search. And under no circumstances, now, should  Trump speak with Mueller.

    Forget the NY prosecutors’  involvement: they’re turning the fruits of their illegal search over to…the FBI. 

    • #80
  21. Gary Robbins Member
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    blood thirsty neocon (View Comment):

    If you want Mueller, Rosenstein, et al gone, vote Republican this November. If we hold the House, Trump can just fire them all.

    The opposite is perhaps true.

    If you want Trump gone, hold your nose and vote Democratic this November.  If the Dems take the House, they have subpoena power.  If they take the House by a lot, Trump will be impeached if Mueller finds the evidence to support that conclusion.

    • #81
  22. Gary Robbins Member
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    Herbert defender of the Realm,… (View Comment):

    blood thirsty neocon (View Comment):

    Valiuth (View Comment):

    blood thirsty neocon (View Comment):

    My guess is that the FISC court application is a complicated matter. If he makes it public, then we will find out exactly which Steele dossier allegations were corroborated. It may run something like:

    Prostitutes in Russia: True

    Peeing on the bed: Not True

    etc.

    Is that a fun conversation to have?

    What if (and I admit this is only my childish and fevered dream/hope) the only thing that is true in the dossier (that wasn’t public knowledge at that point already) is the peeing on the bed.

    Trump is a germophobe. The thought of prostitutes peeing on a bed probably disgusts him.

    He’s not germophobe enough to wear condoms with his sexual partners…

    No, Trump is generous with his PBF.

    • #82
  23. Herbert defender of the Realm,… Member
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    @Herbert

    Hypatia (View Comment):
    And if it had been done to Clinton’s private counsel, there would be wailing and gnashing of teeth on CNN. It is unprecedented.

    If it had been done to Clinton’s private counsel ,you would have demanded a special prosecutor be appointed to determine why it took so long.  Such is life…

    • #83
  24. DrewInWisconsin Member
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    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    The opposite is perhaps true.

    If you want Trump gone, hold your nose and vote Democratic this November. If the Dems take the House, they have subpoena power. If they take the House by a lot, Trump will be impeached if Mueller finds the evidence to support that conclusion.

    “Whatever it takes.”

    • #84
  25. Fred Cole Inactive
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    Basil Fawlty (View Comment):

    A-Squared (View Comment):

    Basil Fawlty (View Comment):

    A-Squared (View Comment):

    Hypatia (View Comment):
    Why didn’t they subooena any non-privileged communications they have a right to see?

    The problem here is that Mr. Cohen has said publicly that he did not pay Ms. Daniels on behalf of his client, Mr. Trump, so that complicates claiming attorney-client privilege.

    If he claims privilege, that implicates Trump. Also, Trump said last week he was not aware of the payment to Ms. Daniels, which makes it harder to claim privilege.

    Why, why and why?

    Why did Mr. Cohen say anything about this payment? I don’t know. It was stupid.

    Why did Trump say he didn’t know anything about this payment, I don’t know.

    Why does any of this affect attorney-client privelege?

    If the attorney is part of committing a crime, you don’t get privilege. 

    • #85
  26. Fred Cole Inactive
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    blood thirsty neocon (View Comment):

    Herbert defender of the Realm,… (View Comment):

    blood thirsty neocon (View Comment):

    Valiuth (View Comment):

    blood thirsty neocon (View Comment):

    My guess is that the FISC court application is a complicated matter. If he makes it public, then we will find out exactly which Steele dossier allegations were corroborated. It may run something like:

    Prostitutes in Russia: True

    Peeing on the bed: Not True

    etc.

    Is that a fun conversation to have?

    What if (and I admit this is only my childish and fevered dream/hope) the only thing that is true in the dossier (that wasn’t public knowledge at that point already) is the peeing on the bed.

    Trump is a germophobe. The thought of prostitutes peeing on a bed probably disgusts him.

    He’s not germophobe enough to wear condoms with his sexual partners…

    Piece of advice: don’t believe everything a porn star with her hand out tells you.

    More useful advice: don’t believe anything Donald Trump says. He is a habitual liar. 

    • #86
  27. Herbert defender of the Realm,… Member
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    Fred Cole (View Comment):

    blood thirsty neocon (View Comment):

    Herbert defender of the Realm,… (View Comment):

    blood thirsty neocon (View Comment):

    Valiuth (View Comment):

    blood thirsty neocon (View Comment):

    My guess is that the FISC court application is a complicated matter. If he makes it public, then we will find out exactly which Steele dossier allegations were corroborated. It may run something like:

    Prostitutes in Russia: True

    Peeing on the bed: Not True

    etc.

    Is that a fun conversation to have?

    What if (and I admit this is only my childish and fevered dream/hope) the only thing that is true in the dossier (that wasn’t public knowledge at that point already) is the peeing on the bed.

    Trump is a germophobe. The thought of prostitutes peeing on a bed probably disgusts him.

    He’s not germophobe enough to wear condoms with his sexual partners…

    Piece of advice: don’t believe everything a porn star with her hand out tells you.

    More useful advice: don’t believe anything Donald Trump says. He is a habitual liar.

    Sad state of affairs when a porn star has more character than the POTUS.

    • #87
  28. Gumby Mark Coolidge
    Gumby Mark
    @GumbyMark

    This shows once again the mistake in not appointing special counsel to investigate the FBI/DOJ/ Clinton emails etc.  While the US Attorney Sessions appointed is a decent guy, and the DOJ Inspector General has shown himself to be a person of integrity, the usual legal process is not suited for dealing with an attempted coup.  Mueller and his Democrat Lawyer Attack Team are engaged in scorched earth warfare.  Sessions needs to appoint as Special Counsel a snarling partisan dog, give that person a broad grant of authority, let them hire partisan Republican lawyers, and set ’em loose.  The point is to instill fear in the Democrats.  Right now this is a one-sided battle.  The only way to deal with it is go after them just as hard.

    Remember it was Ken Starr going after the Clintons that finally got bipartisan agreement to get rid of the Special Prosecutor law.  However idiotic Starr’s mission was it at least accomplished that.

     

    • #88
  29. Gumby Mark Coolidge
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    @GumbyMark

    I think Mueller’s purpose is two-fold.  First, to try to taunt Trump into firing him which he knows will create a political firestorm that he believes will mortally wound Trump.  The goal, after all, is not an indictment, it is political destruction. Second, to use whatever non-Russia related stuff triggered this action, in order to get Trump’s lawyer to flip and deliver the dirt on his client and the Russians, since apparently Manafort, Gates, and Flynn haven’t delivered.

    • #89
  30. Aaron Miller Inactive
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    Trump and Republicans are both responsible for this witch hunt for approving its creation and tolerating its wild, lawless expansion. 

    There was never a time when Democrats would not spin news regarding these “investigations”, whether approved or not. There will never be a time the circus can be shut down without the Left going on parade with lies and conspiracies. Today and tomorrow, as a year ago, the Trump administration and Republicans (Trump fans and not) will have to counter slanderous narratives. 

    Shut it down. Conflict and damage cannot be avoided.

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