Attorney General Jeff Sessions Fires Andrew McCabe

 

From the Washington Post:

Attorney General Jeff Sessions late Friday night fired former FBI Deputy Director Andrew McCabe, a little more than 24 hours before McCabe was set to retire.

Sessions announced the decision in a statement just before 10 p.m., noting that both the Justice Department Inspector General and the FBI office that handles discipline had found “that Mr. McCabe had made an unauthorized disclosure to the news media and lacked candor — including under oath — on multiple occasions.”

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  1. Basil Fawlty Member
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    Fred Cole (View Comment):
    I’d bet on two things:

    1. In the end, this guy will get his full pension.

    2. There will probably be some kind of investigation of how this went down.

    McCabe is vested in the pension plan. I’m sure he’ll get his full pension. It just won’t be quite as full as it would have been had he not been fired for cause. He also may have to wait a bit for it.

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  2. blood thirsty neocon Inactive
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    Gary Robbins (View Comment):
    The firing of McCabe is part of a tapestry.

    It is not enough for McCabe to lose his job, it is necessary to strip him of his pension.

    It is not enough to fire Rex Tillerson as Secretary of State, it was necessary to do so without a face to face meeting, but by a tweet.

    It is not enough to seek to discredit Stormy Daniels, it is necessary to threaten her with violence, and a $20 million claim against her.

    It is not enough to push Canada on tariffs, it is necessary to lie to Canada’s Prime Minister, and then brag about lying.

    Trump is a grifter and a bully. He has dishonored our country. Winning is not enough for him, he must crush his opponents. It is time for this sorry administration to end, as well as all who enable Trump.

    I missed the part of your statement where Trump broke the law. According to the OPR, McCabe broke the law as a matter of course.

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  3. blood thirsty neocon Inactive
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    Fred Cole (View Comment):
    I’d bet on two things:

    1. In the end, this guy will get his full pension.

    2. There will probably be some kind of investigation of how this went down.

    Should he get his pension, Fred? You are one of the governed. Do you consent to what the OPR says McCabe did? Or is it okay because he did it against Trump people?

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  4. Fake John/Jane Galt Coolidge
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    Brian Watt (View Comment):
    I’m verklempt.

    A special counsel to clean house at the Bureau and the DoJ is badly needed. Comey, McCabe, the Ohrs, Strzok, Lisa Page should not feel that they are beyond prosecution. Comey, particularly has a habit of running off with his mouth and also leaked confidential FBI information to the press – a violation of law. It’s more problematic for McCabe to fight for his pension if he’s sitting in a jail cell. I believe there are orange jumpsuits that will fit all of these reprobates.

    None of these jokers ever do jail time.  They are untouchables.  Sure there can be “show trials” for the masses and maybe a few fine but in the end they retire and live lives much better than the rest of the masses.

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  5. blood thirsty neocon Inactive
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    Can we at least stop putting the words deep state in scare quotes to ridicule the paranoia of Trump supporters?

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  6. Franco Member
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    The status of McCabe’s pension is the least of his concerns (or mine). He’s getting prosecuted for crimes. Why anyone has the slightest sympathy for him is beyond me.

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  7. Jeff Hawkins Inactive
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    Quake Voter (View Comment):
    Doesn’t this make Trump’s firing of Comey the biggest own goal in recent history? Imagine Comey’s position if Sessions had really pushed an investigation into the Obama DOJ/FBI while he was still the director?

    Comey would have talked him out of it or undermined it with leaks

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  8. Quietpi Member
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    Gary, setting aside the matter of McCabe’s pension, if you still don’t understand why he should have been fired, I recommend that you go over to a criminal courtroom and talk to one of your criminal prosecution or defense bretheren.  Ask them about “Brady  error,” and why he is now a walking time bomb in regard to any case he touches.  Or touched.

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  9. Acook Coolidge
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    Someone told me that the money that McCabe’s wife received from McAuliffe for her campaign for the state legislature has been shown NOT to source back to the Clintons. Can anyone confirm this, or has my someone been a victim of fake news?

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  10. RufusRJones Member
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    I heard a very serious guy say that where the FBI political class–the management–has obviously and publicly broken the law; if those guys get protected by the other Justice Department political class, there will be a rebellion in the rank-and-file of the FBI. The foot soldiers know that they will be legally  crucified for the same thing.

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  11. OldPhil Coolidge
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    Acook (View Comment):
    Someone told me that the money that McCabe’s wife received from McAuliffe for her campaign for the state legislature has been shown NOT to source back to the Clintons. Can anyone confirm this, or has my someone been a victim of fake news?

    McAuliffe is Bill and Hillary’s Paulie Walnuts, so…

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  12. RufusRJones Member
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    Acook (View Comment):
    Someone told me that the money that McCabe’s wife received from McAuliffe for her campaign for the state legislature has been shown NOT to source back to the Clintons. Can anyone confirm this, or has my someone been a victim of fake news?

    It came from Terry McAuliffe. She may be legally clean, but everyone knows what’s going on. 700K for a state legislature seat.

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  13. Joe P Member
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    Fred Cole (View Comment):
    I’d bet on two things:

    1. In the end, this guy will get his full pension.

    2. There will probably be some kind of investigation of how this went down.

    We need an investigation to investigate why someone was fired for improprieties uncovered as part of an investigation?

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  14. Joe P Member
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    Here’s a question for everyone who is incensed about this firing: What if Loretta Lynch or Eric Holder did it?

    This is not a silly hypothetical; the Obama administration had a reputation for being absolutely brutal towards anyone who leaked information, moreso than any other administration in modern history. I think it is very plausible to believe that if an IG report came out during the Obama administration alleging the exact same things against McCabe, that either Obama Attorney General would have fired him. Would that be such a horror?

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  15. Gary Robbins Member
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    RufusRJones (View Comment):

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):
    It is not enough to seek to discredit Stormy Daniels, it is necessary to threaten her with violence, and a $20 million claim against her.

    You have no idea who is threatening her with violence. She signed a nondisclosure for compensation. What is Trump supposed to do?

    Sue for the $130K.

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  16. Richard Easton Coolidge
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    We need to define what full pension means.  Let’s say a person is vested and receives 5K per month at age 65.  They can retire early at age 50 and receive 3K a month until they reach age 65 when it steps up to 5K.  In both cases the person receives the full pension but the early retirement option is a lot more money.  Is that the case for McCabe?  Please correct me if you know more details about how the FBI pension works.

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  17. Mike-K Member
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    Gary Robbins (View Comment):
    Shame on Sessions.

    Hilarious. The NeverTrumpers are reduced to encouraging felonies.

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  18. carcat74 Member
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    blood thirsty neocon (View Comment):
    BTW, on the other channels they’re saying Saturday night massacre. There is no longer any shared understanding of reality. Get ready for some craziness.

    “Get ready for some craziness”?  What have we been enduring for the last umpteen months?!?!?

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  19. Quake Voter Inactive
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    Jeff Hawkins (View Comment):

    Quake Voter (View Comment):
    Doesn’t this make Trump’s firing of Comey the biggest own goal in recent history? Imagine Comey’s position if Sessions had really pushed an investigation into the Obama DOJ/FBI while he was still the director?

    Comey would have talked him out of it or undermined it with leaks

    Well, I am suggesting that Comey would then be trying to operate while an active special prosecutor was investigating the malpractice of his agency and his key subordinates were being interrogated.  Would he continue to leak aggressively in that circumstance?  Maybe, as he seems somewhat dim.  I am suggesting that Trump could have forced Comey out in a much more tactically smart manner.

    Or, he could have informed Comey of his upcoming dismissal on November 9th and appointed a competent director.

    Doesn’t excuse the lawlessness of the DC FBI but Trump played this very badly.

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  20. Mike-K Member
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    RufusRJones (View Comment):
    The foot soldiers know that they will be legally crucified for the same thing.

    My daughter is an agent with close to twenty years. In September 2016, I asked her about the election. She has been a lefty since law school. I still chuckle about her telling me my days were over since I was a white male. This was when I was picking up the check for the dinner after her law school graduation.

    Anyway, when I asked her about the election, she told me she would NOT vote for Hillary. She said, “I won’t vote for Trump but I won’t vote for Hillary.”

    When she said that, I knew that the FBI rank and file knew Hillary was dirty. It is my theory that Comey was facing an agent revolt when he made that weird press conference in July 2016.

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  21. Fake John/Jane Galt Coolidge
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    RufusRJones (View Comment):
    I heard a very serious guy say that where the FBI political class–the management–has obviously and publicly broken the law; if those guys get protected by the other Justice Department political class, there will be a rebellion in the rank-and-file of the FBI. The foot soldiers know that they will be legally crucified for the same thing.

    Doubtful.  Corrupt is as corrupt does.  All that will happen is the FBI will become more publicly corrupt as the upper management places and promotes more corrupt individuals in management positions.  Far I am concerned the FBI is now a political organization for the purposes of defending the Democrat Party.  It may have always been but is just now dropping the mask.

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  22. RufusRJones Member
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    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    RufusRJones (View Comment):

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):
    It is not enough to seek to discredit Stormy Daniels, it is necessary to threaten her with violence, and a $20 million claim against her.

    You have no idea who is threatening her with violence. She signed a nondisclosure for compensation. What is Trump supposed to do?

    Sue for the $130K.

    My understanding is they always stick a clause in that you get to sue for a hell of a lot more than the original amount if they break the agreement. I forget what it’s called.

    I’m not sure I see the problem with the “discredit” part.

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  23. RufusRJones Member
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    Fake John/Jane Galt (View Comment):
    the FBI is now a political organization

    Everything is turning Soviet.

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  24. Gary Robbins Member
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    carcat74 (View Comment):

    blood thirsty neocon (View Comment):
    BTW, on the other channels they’re saying Saturday night massacre. There is no longer any shared understanding of reality. Get ready for some craziness.

    “Get ready for some craziness”? What have we been enduring for the last umpteen months?!?!?

    We have had craziness since June 16, 2015 when Trump came down the escalator.  This craziness is increasing, and will sweep the Republican Party out of the House of Representatives in 2018.  The craziness of Trump is an existential danger to the Republican Party.  Either we get rid of Trump, or the Republican Party will go the way of the Whigs.

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  25. Gary Robbins Member
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    Mike-K (View Comment):

    RufusRJones (View Comment):
    The foot soldiers know that they will be legally crucified for the same thing.

    My daughter is an agent with close to twenty years. In September 2016, I asked her about the election. She has been a lefty since law school. I still chuckle about her telling me my days were over since I was a white male. This was when I was picking up the check for the dinner after her law school graduation.

    Anyway, when I asked her about the election, she told me she would NOT vote for Hillary. She said, “I won’t vote for Trump but I won’t vote for Hillary.”

    When she said that, I knew that the FBI rank and file knew Hillary was dirty. It is my theory that Comey was facing an agent revolt when he made that weird press conference in July 2016.

    I didn’t vote for Hillary either.

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  26. Basil Fawlty Member
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    Richard Easton (View Comment):
    We need to define what full pension means. Let’s say a person is vested and receives 5K per month at age 65. They can retire early at age 50 and receive 3K a month until they reach age 65 when it steps up to 5K. In both cases the person receives the full pension but the early retirement option is a lot more money. Is that the case for McCabe? Please correct me if you know more details about how the FBI pension works.

    If you retire early, any reduction in your pension is permanent.

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  27. RufusRJones Member
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    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    carcat74 (View Comment):

    blood thirsty neocon (View Comment):
    BTW, on the other channels they’re saying Saturday night massacre. There is no longer any shared understanding of reality. Get ready for some craziness.

    “Get ready for some craziness”? What have we been enduring for the last umpteen months?!?!?

    We have had craziness since June 16, 2015 when Trump came down the escalator. This craziness is increasing, and will sweep the Republican Party out of the House of Representatives in 2018. The craziness of Trump is an existential danger to the Republican Party. Either we get rid of Trump, or the Republican Party will go the way of the Whigs.

    Trump is a symptom of an unnecessarily regressive economy and cultural marxism. The GOP has done jack about both. That is the dynamic.

    (The GOP had no idea how to handle 17 primary candidates, too)

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  28. blood thirsty neocon Inactive
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    carcat74 (View Comment):

    blood thirsty neocon (View Comment):
    BTW, on the other channels they’re saying Saturday night massacre. There is no longer any shared understanding of reality. Get ready for some craziness.

    “Get ready for some craziness”? What have we been enduring for the last umpteen months?!?!?

    The potemkin village of an “investigation” that so many progressives have invested so much time and emotion in is collapsing before our eyes. There will be incredible pressure on Sessions, Rosenstein, and Mueller to end this charade. And there will be incredible table pounding (for lack of legitimate appeals to law or facts) to continue the charade. You haven’t seen any craziness yet.

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  29. EDISONPARKS Member
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    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    carcat74 (View Comment):

    blood thirsty neocon (View Comment):
    BTW, on the other channels they’re saying Saturday night massacre. There is no longer any shared understanding of reality. Get ready for some craziness.

    “Get ready for some craziness”? What have we been enduring for the last umpteen months?!?!?

    We have had craziness since June 16, 2015 when Trump came down the escalator. This craziness is increasing, and will sweep the Republican Party out of the House of Representatives in 2018. The craziness of Trump is an existential danger to the Republican Party. Either we get rid of Trump, or the Republican Party will go the way of the Whigs.

    Describe your plan to “get rid of Trump” and the readers can determine whether it is plausible and whether we agree we should embark on this plan to “get rid of Trump”.

    The Trump/Russia collusion scam has blown up in the face of the (D)’s and (NT)’s, and as much as every MSM outlet tries daily to make every variation of the Stormy Daniels affair into news it seems to have zero effect in taking down Trump.   If Trump can survive everything that has already been leveled against him, what else would you have in your plans to “get rid of Trump”.

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  30. blood thirsty neocon Inactive
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    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    carcat74 (View Comment):

    blood thirsty neocon (View Comment):
    BTW, on the other channels they’re saying Saturday night massacre. There is no longer any shared understanding of reality. Get ready for some craziness.

    “Get ready for some craziness”? What have we been enduring for the last umpteen months?!?!?

    We have had craziness since June 16, 2015 when Trump came down the escalator. This craziness is increasing, and will sweep the Republican Party out of the House of Representatives in 2018. The craziness of Trump is an existential danger to the Republican Party. Either we get rid of Trump, or the Republican Party will go the way of the Whigs.

    So the AG following the recommendation of independent offices of accountability after long, exhaustive investigations is somehow illegitimate?

    Gary, I asked you last night to respond to the Office of Professional Responsibility’s recommendation. Now, I ask you to respond to the same recommendation issued by the Office of the Inspector General. Do you question these offices’ legitimacy, honesty, or judgement? If so, on what basis? If you continue to be non-responsive to legitimate questions, it will be very difficult to assume that you are operating in good faith.

    And happy St. Patrick’s Day!

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