Is Mueller Obstructing Justice?

 

Lee Smith in Tablet makes some interesting assertions:

News that special counselor Robert Mueller has turned his attention to Erik Prince’s January 11, 2017 meeting in the Seychelles with a Russian banker, a Lebanese-American political fixer, and officials from the United Arab Emirates, helps clarify the nature of Mueller’s work. It’s not an investigation that the former director of the Federal Bureau of Investigation is leading—rather, it’s a cover-up.

After all, Mueller took his job not at the behest of the man who by all accounts he is likely to professionally and personally disdain, Donald Trump, but of the blue-chip Beltway elite of which he is a charter member. Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein appointed him nearly a year ago to lead an investigation without parameters. That’s because Mueller’s job is to obscure the abuses of the US surveillance apparatus that occurred under the Obama administration.

The fact that someone at the level of former FBI director was called in to sweep up the mess left by bad actors in the bureau and Central Intelligence Agency and other parts of the intelligence bureaucracy suggests that the problems are even worse than previously thought. And that means the constituency for Mueller’s political intervention is enormous.

Mueller is said to believe that the Prince meeting was to set up a back channel with the Kremlin. But that makes no sense. According to the foundational text of the collusion narrative, the dossier allegedly written by former British spy Christopher Steele, the Kremlin had cultivated Trump himself for years. So what’s the purpose of a back channel, when Vladimir Putin already had a key to the front door of Mar-a-Lago?

Further, the collusion thesis holds that the Trump circle teamed with high-level Russian officials for the purpose of winning the 2016 election. How does a meeting that Erik Prince had a week before Trump’s inauguration advance the crooked election victory plot? It doesn’t—it contradicts it.

I encourage people to read the whole thing. We have two massive related scandals from the Obama administration:

  1. Abuse of FISA to spy on opponents (of the Iran deal and the Trump campaign).
  2. Unmasking of Americans swept up in this illegal spying.

Is Mueller attempting to obstruct justice by diverting attention from this?

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  1. Guruforhire Inactive
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    Yes, he is playing the role of Kim Philby in this scandal.

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  2. James Gawron Inactive
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    Richard,

    You have a very interesting way of putting it. Obviously, the answer should be yes. All I know is that Muller is on his 297th innuendo. Every time he assumes the right to presume guilt before proof of anything. The media then convicts of a crime that has never taken place.

    This whole process guarantees employment for a special prosecutor essentially for a lifetime. Nice work if you can get it.

    Regards,

    Jim

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  3. OccupantCDN Coolidge
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    Is this the guy who’s the convicted pedophile? He had 2 meetings with some of the Trumpets, but was never really involved in anything.

    I agree, this is not an investigation its a witch hunt and a cover up.

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  4. EDISONPARKS Member
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    Thanks for posting Richard, I’ve been reading Lee Smith’s writings and I appreciate Smith’s willingness to  go after journalists complicit in hatching the Trump/Russia collusion narrative.

    Like the DOJ/FBI/Intel community being responsible for investigating their own malfeasance, the reason we still have little to no MSM coverage of the scandal that is the manufactured Trump/Russia collusion “scandal” is because the MSM is almost as complicit as the top management of the DOJ/FBI/Intel community in disseminating the phony narrative.

    Equally maddening is the near silence/timidity of many Conservative writers and talking heads.

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  5. Percival Thatcher
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    Curious how Mueller might have a horse face, but he continually reminds me of the other end.

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  6. Quake Voter Inactive
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    Thank God for Lee Smith, Andrew McCarthy and Mollie Hemingway.

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  7. Quake Voter Inactive
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    EDISONPARKS (View Comment):
    Equally maddening is the near silence/timidity of many Conservative writers and talking heads.

    You mean the “we must let the Mueller investigation track down the full story of Russian meddling” line parroted by conservative pundits anxious to keep their spots at the MSM conservative children’s table doesn’t impress you?

    According to Jonah, the lack of any collusion has been the Washington Consensus all along.

    Mollie beating up on Jonah is even more entertaining that Mollie boxing Mark.

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  8. Gumby Mark Coolidge
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    I don’t know why you would think this investigation is itself an obstruction of justice.  I’ve heard Mueller is closing in on the key piece of evidence – direct evidence of the presidential candidate colluding with the Russians and telling them he will get them what they want.

    Oh, wait a minute . . .

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  9. Fake John/Jane Galt Coolidge
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    I suspect the Mueller investigation will show some form of collusion and send various Trump friendly individuals to jail or bankrupt them.  That is its purpose, so that is what it will produce.

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  10. EDISONPARKS Member
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    Quake Voter (View Comment):

    EDISONPARKS (View Comment):
    Equally maddening is the near silence/timidity of many Conservative writers and talking heads.

    You mean the “we must let the Mueller investigation track down the full story of Russian meddling” line parroted by conservative pundits anxious to keep their spots at the MSM conservative children’s table doesn’t impress you?

    According to Jonah, the lack of any collusion has been the Washington Consensus all along.

    Mollie beating up on Jonah is even more entertaining that Mollie boxing Mark.

    Yes???!!!!!!!!!!

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  11. Larry Koler Inactive
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    Rush says that Mueller is on a mission from God (or those who think they are God) to destroy Trump and his businesses:

    http://www.breitbart.com/big-journalism/2018/03/16/rush-limbaugh-mueller-wants-to-nullify-trumps-900m-tax-deduction-from-1995-to-ruin-him/

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  12. Valiuth Member
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    So when do you guys get to including the Illuminati into your conspiracy theories?

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  13. EDISONPARKS Member
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    Valiuth (View Comment):
    So when do you guys get to including the Illuminati into your conspiracy theories?

    https://www.nationalreview.com/2018/03/russia-collusion-real-story-hillary-clinton-dnc-fbi-media/

    Excerpt from the NRO Michael Doran piece:

    With respect to the framing of Trump, however, the second-sight scam required elaborate orchestration, the work of many hands. The key was the double-tracking of the dossier. Hillary Clinton’s enablers channeled it simultaneously into the press and into the government. They then recruited people inside government to verify to the outsiders that it was a serious document, a guide to the intelligence that reporters were not allowed to see. Without this double-tracking and official or quasi-official authentication, journalists would never have believed that they were catching a glimpse of what Brennan and the FBI saw in their crystal balls — pardon me, their top-secret monitors. And without leaks about investigations, journalists would have had no dossier-related news to report. Official statements that the dossier “was being looked into” transformed it into a legitimate topic for reputable news outlets.

    This con failed in its primary goal of preventing the election of Trump, but it was nevertheless a partial success. It instilled in a significant portion of the American public the conviction that Trump indeed conspired with Putin. This conviction is especially prevalent among the lofty-minded — a class of people that includes Republicans as well as Democrats.

    The bipartisan character of the delusion was the greatest factor that legitimated the appointment of Robert S. Mueller III, the special counsel leading the investigation into Trump’s alleged relations with Russia. The lofty-minded have greeted every indictment that Mueller has handed down as confirmation of their collusion delusion. In reality, those indictments only prove that a phalanx of crack investigators armed with nearly unlimited resources, a grand jury, and an expansive mandate can draw blood almost at will. If a similar phalanx were to target Hillary Clinton and the shenanigans surrounding the Clinton Foundation, how much blood would flow? In other words, Mueller’s indictments are just the latest form of the non-verification verification.

    Regardless of Mueller’s intentions, his probe serves as precisely the kind of “insurance policy” that Strzok seems to have been discussing with his lover, Lisa Page, in August 2016. Trump cannot shut down the Mueller probe and excise the rot in the DOJ and the FBI without appearing to obstruct justice. In practical terms, then, the Mueller probe is the cover-up.

    Of course, the lofty-minded refuse to see it this way. The political damage that Mueller’s team is inflicting on Trump helps explain why a surprising number of people mount passionate and sincere defenses of the dossier and the super spy who compiled it. The logic of partisan politics will always lead a significant percentage of people to insist, with varying degrees of true belief, that a sow’s ear really is a silk purse. But partisanship is not by any means the only factor at work here. Even people with well-deserved reputations for intellectual seriousness passionately defend the integrity of Christopher Steele, a man whom the New York Times insists on calling, despite all contrary evidence, “a whistleblower.”

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  14. She Member
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    Larry Koler (View Comment):
    Rush says that Mueller is on a mission from God (or those who think they are God) to destroy Trump and his businesses:

    http://www.breitbart.com/big-journalism/2018/03/16/rush-limbaugh-mueller-wants-to-nullify-trumps-900m-tax-deduction-from-1995-to-ruin-him/

    Although Rush clearly thinks that Mueller is out of control and is abusing the power that’s been granted to him, I don’t see a religious aspect to his criticism of the man.

    Valiuth (View Comment):
    So when do you guys get to including the Illuminati into your conspiracy theories?

    So I’m not sure this is a useful direction to take the conversation.  Also, please understand that you’re speaking to fellow members here, and that those commenting on the conversation from one side or the other may have different points of view, even from their “allies.”  So painting with a broad brush such as “you guys” or “you people,” seems a bit unfair.

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  15. RufusRJones Member
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    Percival (View Comment):
    Curious how Mueller might have a horse face, but he continually reminds me of the other end.

    Reportedly, he was really notorious in the S.F. office for blowing through resources and getting nowhere or worse. It was a Boston defense lawyer that I heard on Howie Carr. I forget all of the details.

    ***EDIT***

    It was this guy.

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  16. Larry Koler Inactive
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    She (View Comment):

    Larry Koler (View Comment):
    Rush says that Mueller is on a mission from God (or those who think they are God) to destroy Trump and his businesses:

    http://www.breitbart.com/big-journalism/2018/03/16/rush-limbaugh-mueller-wants-to-nullify-trumps-900m-tax-deduction-from-1995-to-ruin-him/

    Although Rush clearly thinks that Mueller is out of control and is abusing the power that’s been granted to him, I don’t see a religious aspect to his criticism of the man.

    Valiuth (View Comment):
    So when do you guys get to including the Illuminati into your conspiracy theories?

    So I’m not sure this is a useful direction to take the conversation. Also, please understand that you’re speaking to fellow members here, and that those commenting on the conversation from one side or the other may have different points of view, even from their “allies.” So painting with a broad brush such as “you guys” or “you people,” seems a bit unfair.

    I take it that this is your form of humor — on both comments.

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  17. Larry Koler Inactive
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    RufusRJones (View Comment):

    Percival (View Comment):
    Curious how Mueller might have a horse face, but he continually reminds me of the other end.

    Reportedly, he was really notorious in the S.F. office for blowing through resources and getting nowhere or worse. It was a Boston defense lawyer that I heard on Howie Carr. I forget all of the details.

    ***EDIT***

    It was this guy.

    Thanks.

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  18. RufusRJones Member
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    Larry Koler (View Comment):

    RufusRJones (View Comment):

    Percival (View Comment):
    Curious how Mueller might have a horse face, but he continually reminds me of the other end.

    Reportedly, he was really notorious in the S.F. office for blowing through resources and getting nowhere or worse. It was a Boston defense lawyer that I heard on Howie Carr. I forget all of the details.

    ***EDIT***

    It was this guy.

    Thanks.

    Silverstien hates his guts because Muller tried to entrap him one time with government resources and Muller didn’t deny it. Pure fishing expedition, no prob able cause. He’s been collecting dirt on him ever since.

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  19. RufusRJones Member
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    RufusRJones (View Comment):

    Larry Koler (View Comment):

    RufusRJones (View Comment):

    Percival (View Comment):
    Curious how Mueller might have a horse face, but he continually reminds me of the other end.

    Reportedly, he was really notorious in the S.F. office for blowing through resources and getting nowhere or worse. It was a Boston defense lawyer that I heard on Howie Carr. I forget all of the details.

    ***EDIT***

    It was this guy.

    Thanks.

    Silverstien hates his guts because Muller tried to entrap him one time with government resources and Muller didn’t deny it. Pure fishing expedition, no prob able cause. He’s been collecting dirt on him ever since.

    Silverglate: How Robert Mueller Tried To Entrap Me

     

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  20. Larry Koler Inactive
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    RufusRJones (View Comment):

    RufusRJones (View Comment):

    Larry Koler (View Comment):

    RufusRJones (View Comment):

    Percival (View Comment):
    Curious how Mueller might have a horse face, but he continually reminds me of the other end.

    Reportedly, he was really notorious in the S.F. office for blowing through resources and getting nowhere or worse. It was a Boston defense lawyer that I heard on Howie Carr. I forget all of the details.

    ***EDIT***

    It was this guy.

    Thanks.

    Silverstien hates his guts because Muller tried to entrap him one time with government resources and Muller didn’t deny it. Pure fishing expedition, no prob able cause. He’s been collecting dirt on him ever since.

    Silverglate: How Robert Mueller Tried To Entrap Me

    Great stuff. I keep reading worse and worse stuff about him. This is the entitled bureaucracy in its full glory.

    I did three posts about him: Post 1, Post 2, Post 3. Not sure if you saw those. The third is where I get a clearer picture of him finally.

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  21. RufusRJones Member
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    Banana republic is the natural order of things. The Founders gave it their best shot.

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  22. RufusRJones Member
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    RufusRJones (View Comment):
    Banana republic is the natural order of things. The Founders gave it their best shot.

     

    But with whom their sons cut lucrative deals while the elder two were steering the ship of state is more of a surprise.

    What Hunter Biden, the son of America’s vice president, and Christopher Heinz, the stepson of the chairman of the Senate Committee on Foreign Relations (later to be secretary of state), were creating was an international private equity firm. It was anchored by the Heinz family alternative investment fund, Rosemont Capital. The new firm would be populated by political loyalists and positioned to strike profitable deals overseas with foreign governments and officials with whom the US government was negotiating.

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  23. Quake Voter Inactive
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    Valiuth (View Comment):
    So when do you guys get to including the Illuminati into your conspiracy theories?

    Illuminati are losers; we got lizards straight from Archuleta Mesa.

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