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  1. Arahant Member
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    Judithann Campbell (View Comment):
    All they need to do is import enough people from other countries.

    The future is also another country.

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  2. Judithann Campbell Member
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    Arahant (View Comment):

    Judithann Campbell (View Comment):
    All they need to do is import enough people from other countries.

    The future is also another country.

    The don’t even try to hide how much they hate red state Americans anymore. I really do wonder how they are perceived by normal people in other countries. My husband is from Scotland; one of his favorite entertainers is and always has been Dolly Parton. His friends in Scotland go on and on about Elvis, and how much they love him. We were all set to take one of our Scottish friends to Graceland for what would have been for him the trip of a lifetime; sadly, this friend died before we could make that trip.

    I am no expert on Europeans, but I am starting to wonder if American leftists are giving Europeans a bad name. The Europeans I know absolutely love Southern culture. Everything they love about America is everything American liberals disdain about America. Of course, this is all anecdotal, but it just makes me wonder.

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  3. Seawriter Contributor
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    @Seawriter

    If anyone is worried, read this.

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  4. Lazy_Millennial Inactive
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    @LazyMillennial

    Insight shamelessly stolen from Michael Brendan Dougherty:

    On the right, I often hear sentiments to the effect that many on our side want to be “morally right” more than we want to win and implement policy. Interestingly enough, this is an example of the same tendency on the left:

    This is pretty much the elite liberal dilemma in a nutshell. The desire to morally condemn their countrymen is ultimately stronger than their desire for the power to put them in the dustbin of history.

    It’s a statement of moral secession. All their economic problems are the deserved result of their wickedness. A walking demonstration of Deneen’s thesis here.

    https://www.firstthings.com/article/2018/04/the-ignoble-lie

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  5. Django Member
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    Ed G. (View Comment):

    Django (View Comment):

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    Franco (View Comment):
    Some chilling attitudes. She represents more GDP areas. Astonishing.

    And those high GDP areas don’t have large numbers of people ( voters) who are poor and dependent?

    And let’s look at federal government spending in the areas Clinton, won shall we?

    And the welfare rolls, the food stamp rolls, and the illegal immigrant numbers, too, while we’re at it.

    And still Governor Moonbeam calls California the “engine” of the American economy.

    Well, there’s some truth to that if GDP is the measure.

    I admit I don’t fully understand GDP. Some economists include the sale of a home in calculating GDP because it is a measure of economic activity. If that is in the official figures, it is not a true measure of whether CA is an “engine” of the American economy.

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  6. Django Member
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    @Django

    Ed G. (View Comment):

    Django (View Comment):
    The word “delusional” comes to mind. I honestly don’t know whether to despise her or feel sorry for her. The former seems more appropriate because that seems to be her attitude toward those who disagree with her.

    Maybe delusional is accurate. I don’t know – I think her ~60 million voters would agree with every one of those utterances. So it’s lucid to half the country. Mass delusion? No, just dead wrong. When Donald Trump doesn’t usher in the fourth reich and people end up doing better than they thought they would, then we’ll see just how strong this Democrat charm really is.

    Over the Holidays, I spent some time with friends. One of the women, one whom I have known for 23 years, was making the stupidest statements about Trump I’ve heard in person. I bit my tongue – the notch took a while to heal – and said nothing. It’s called manners. I was a guest and I like to think I have manners. Later, the hostess thanked me for keeping the peace. I asked how her niece could be so dumb and she said, “She married a Hispanic.” Whiskey Tango Foxtrot? She’s afraid of Trump because of his positions on immigration. The woman’s husband and his relatives are all here legally and are citizens. Again, WTF? The answer was that it’s an “emotional” issue for her. That sums it up. A lot of this is emotional and one can’t reason people out of positions they didn’t reason themselves into.

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  7. Ed G. Member
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    Django (View Comment):

    Ed G. (View Comment):

    Django (View Comment):

    Fritz (View Comment):

    Franco (View Comment):
    Some chilling attitudes. She represents more GDP areas. Astonishing.

    And those high GDP areas don’t have large numbers of people ( voters) who are poor and dependent?

    And let’s look at federal government spending in the areas Clinton, won shall we?

    And the welfare rolls, the food stamp rolls, and the illegal immigrant numbers, too, while we’re at it.

    And still Governor Moonbeam calls California the “engine” of the American economy.

    Well, there’s some truth to that if GDP is the measure.

    I admit I don’t fully understand GDP. Some economists include the sale of a home in calculating GDP because it is a measure of economic activity. If that is in the official figures, it is not a true measure of whether CA is an “engine” of the American economy.

    Me neither (I don’t fully understand GDP I mean). I’m not so sure service type production belongs in the same category as production of things. I’m sure there’s all kinds of complications and blurring of distinctions – not an easy distinction to make for sure so I won’t spit on economists for trying to do their best and finding usefulness in less than perfect measures. But, yes, I have similar concerns.

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  8. Lazy_Millennial Inactive
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    Seawriter (View Comment):
    If anyone is worried, read this.

    Once you read that, and realize you’ve just wasted time on Schlichter’s civil war fanfic, read this, and realize why everything leading up to the civil war would favor the lefties.

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  9. Seawriter Contributor
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    Lazy_Millennial (View Comment):

    Seawriter (View Comment):
    If anyone is worried, read this.

    Once you read that, and realize you’ve just wasted time on Schlichter’s civil war fanfic, read this, and realize why everything leading up to the civil war would favor the lefties.

    That is the funniest thing I have read this year. ANTIFA? Get real.

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  10. EDISONPARKS Member
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    @user_54742

    It’s only human nature to devise any theory ….. anything you can say to yourself and those who will listen ….. anything you can think of to help delude yourself from having to admit that voters disliked Hillary Rodham Clinton to the point where voters would even prefer having Donald Trump as their President.

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  11. Lazy_Millennial Inactive
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    Seawriter (View Comment):

    Lazy_Millennial (View Comment):

    Seawriter (View Comment):
    If anyone is worried, read this.

    Once you read that, and realize you’ve just wasted time on Schlichter’s civil war fanfic, read this, and realize why everything leading up to the civil war would favor the lefties.

    That is the funniest thing I have read this year. ANTIFA? Get real.

    You read the tweet, not the linked article

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  12. Django Member
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    Lazy_Millennial (View Comment):

    Seawriter (View Comment):

    Lazy_Millennial (View Comment):

    Seawriter (View Comment):
    If anyone is worried, read this.

    Once you read that, and realize you’ve just wasted time on Schlichter’s civil war fanfic, read this, and realize why everything leading up to the civil war would favor the lefties.

    That is the funniest thing I have read this year. ANTIFA? Get real.

    You read the tweet, not the linked article

    When I hear talk of a “civil war” today, I almost laugh out loud. Can anyone say with a straight face what a civil war would mean today. Unless I was completely mis-lead in my history classes, the real Civil War involved states. Today’s civil war involves not states, but the idiot next door. I live in CA and am surrounded by leftists and right-leaning gun owners. If a civil war actually broke out, they’d be shooting each other with no supporting structure. No states; no logistics; no supply lines; no overall strategy. Not a single tank or UCAV. We have no choice but to … OK. Maybe there will be a civil war, but it won’t look like the last one. And I’m not about to predict the winner. If there is a real “winner”.

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  13. Randy Webster Inactive
    Randy Webster
    @RandyWebster

    Hillary can’t understand why she lost.

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  14. SkipSul Inactive
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    @skipsul

    DrewInWisconsin (View Comment):

    TeamAmerica (View Comment):
    I love the blithe, bigoted way she assumes that anyone who doesn’t agree with her lefty ideology is a racist and nativist.

    Everyone on the left believes this. Even “nice” people I know who are on the left believe this. They’re “nice” about it, in an “oh, you poor things, you just can’t help it” sort of way. But they believe this.

    I have been finding them anything but “nice” of late.  Angry, bitter, vile, and vengeful at this point.  If anything, there is a large segment of voters out there who hear Hillary’s bile, and cheer.  They will be out for blood this fall, and in 2020.

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  15. Western Chauvinist Member
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    @WesternChauvinist

    Do the Indian people know what’s happened to the black unemployment rate in this country??

    Oh, never mind. What was I thinking? They probably get their (fake) American news from CNN.

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  16. Judithann Campbell Member
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    Western Chauvinist (View Comment):
    Do the Indian people know what’s happened to the black unemployment rate in this country??

    Oh, never mind. What was I thinking? They probably get their (fake) American news from CNN.

    Never underestimate how uninformed or misinformed people in other countries can be about America. And the better educated they are, the more misinformed they are. My husband’s sister and her husband both have advanced degrees; they informed us that half of all Americans work for the military industrial complex. Nothing we said could change their minds about this.

    My mother in law is an angel from heaven, but the poor woman used to be worried sick about the health care her son would or wouldn’t receive in America; she saw some documentary on British television which showed uninsured Americans lined up in a park somewhere under a tent to see doctors; America was portrayed as some kind of third world country when it comes to health care. Her views on this seem to have changed, though: when she hears about the care my elderly parents receive-the fact that they can get second opinions, and things like that, she sounds envious. We worry about her a lot, and about the care that she will or won’t receive in Scotland, where second opinions are not allowed under the National Health.

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  17. Retail Lawyer Member
    Retail Lawyer
    @RetailLawyer

    At least she didn’t fall over again.

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  18. Jules PA Inactive
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    Fritz (View Comment):

    Franco (View Comment):
    Some chilling attitudes. She represents more GDP areas. Astonishing.

    And those high GDP areas don’t have large numbers of people ( voters) who are poor and dependent?

    And let’s look at federal government spending in the areas Clinton, won shall we?

    And the welfare rolls, the food stamp rolls, and the illegal immigrant numbers, too, while we’re at it.

    Jelly rolls? Egg rolls? Tootsie rolls?

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  19. Jim Wright Inactive
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    @JimW

    Hoyacon (View Comment):
    There were 63 million Trump voters. I understand that he sometimes says things that are, umm. intemperate, but has he ever slimed this many people? Will those media outlets who live for Trump’s every questionable utterance recognize the enormity of these accusations from HRC? Unfortunately, not likely.

    Trump slimes individuals.

    Hillary slimes broad demographics.

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  20. Aaron Miller Inactive
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    DrewInWisconsin (View Comment):

    TeamAmerica (View Comment):
    I love the blithe, bigoted way she assumes that anyone who doesn’t agree with her lefty ideology is a racist and nativist.

    Everyone on the left believes this. Even “nice” people I know who are on the left believe this. They’re “nice” about it, in an “oh, you poor things, you just can’t help it” sort of way. But they believe this.

    This should be what everyone takes from her tirade. Clinton herself is not so dangerous as the fully half of American voters who think like her. That level of widespread contempt, fear, and hatred of neighbors makes all sorts of horrors possible, both in politics and beyond.

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  21. blood thirsty neocon Inactive
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    @bloodthirstyneocon

    “Hillary’s the devil” is so 2016-7. Let President Trump rise or fall on his own accomplishments. The Hillary bogeywoman no longer serves any purpose.

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  22. OmegaPaladin Moderator
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    Lazy_Millennial (View Comment):

    Seawriter (View Comment):
    If anyone is worried, read this.

    Once you read that, and realize you’ve just wasted time on Schlichter’s civil war fanfic, read this, and realize why everything leading up to the civil war would favor the lefties.

    Both of his scenarios are pretty straightforward.  I could certainly imagine that an actual insurrection would favor the dispersed, armed, rural faction over the concentrated, disarmed, urban faction, especially given the political demographics of the military and police forces.

    Of course the left will cover its own.  We’ve already seen them bend over backwards to help antifa.  It’s just another militarized wing of the democratic party, like the KKK.  They are still utterly useless in the face of actual resistance.

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  23. The Cloaked Gaijin Member
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    Percival (View Comment):
    I voted for Trump because I preferred the two-bit real estate grifter who made money in New York over the two-bit real estate grifter who didn’t in Arkansas.

    Great quote.

    However, a lot of the inflated-ego salesman stuff that I disliked about Trump was essentially identical to the qualities of a guy named Steve Jobs — who the Left loved.  Steve Jobs’ company produced some amazing results, but Jobs was apparently a tyrant of a boss.

    The Leftist like Hillary and Obama seem to have some real contempt for the non-college-educated common folk, especially white men — and perhaps their spouses.  At least Steve Jobs and Donald Trump had to worry about some market forces.  Perhaps the next Democrat politician would be a businessman, if they could every find one.  A lot of Democrat politicians do not seem to have the ability accomplish anything in the private sector.  It seems like almost the entire Democrat Party is a party of grifters.

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  24. Annefy Member
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    Wintermute (View Comment):
    I was struck by her statement that the parts of the country that voted for her represent 2/3 of the Gross National Product. That fraction is skewed by the large populations that live near the coasts and drive the service economies there. But how much wheat, corn, soybeans, beef, chicken, pork, and petroleum products do those regions produce? Very little and they would be in a bad way if “red” America did not produce those things for them.

    As my favorite nephew once shared with me (after a frustrating weekend spent with his sister and other UC Berkeley grads): “Auntie Annie, they can’t even grow their own pot.”

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  25. Doug Watt Member
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    @DougWatt

    Annefy (View Comment):

    Wintermute (View Comment):
    I was struck by her statement that the parts of the country that voted for her represent 2/3 of the Gross National Product. That fraction is skewed by the large populations that live near the coasts and drive the service economies there. But how much wheat, corn, soybeans, beef, chicken, pork, and petroleum products do those regions produce? Very little and they would be in a bad way if “red” America did not produce those things for them.

    As my favorite nephew once shared with me (after a frustrating weekend spent with his sister and other UC Berkeley grads: “Auntie Annie, they can’t even grow their own pot.”

    I love this comment.

     

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  26. Annefy Member
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    @Annefy

    Judithann Campbell (View Comment):

    Western Chauvinist (View Comment):
    Do the Indian people know what’s happened to the black unemployment rate in this country??

    Oh, never mind. What was I thinking? They probably get their (fake) American news from CNN.

    Never underestimate how uninformed or misinformed people in other countries can be about America. And the better educated they are, the more misinformed they are. My husband’s sister and her husband both have advanced degrees; they informed us that half of all Americans work for the military industrial complex. Nothing we said could change their minds about this.

    My mother in law is an angel from heaven, but the poor woman used to be worried sick about the health care her son would or wouldn’t receive in America; she saw some documentary on British television which showed uninsured Americans lined up in a park somewhere under a tent to see doctors; America was portrayed as some kind of third world country when it comes to health care. Her views on this seem to have changed, though: when she hears about the care my elderly parents receive-the fact that they can get second opinions, and things like that, she sounds envious. We worry about her a lot, and about the care that she will or won’t receive in Scotland, where second opinions are not allowed under the National Health.

    @Judithann: I’ve told stories to all my relatives in Scotland; they are convinced we are stopped at he door of a hospital and not allowed entry until proof of insurance is shown.

    I’ve twice had babies ripped from my arms and their lives saved before anyone even asked me my name.

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  27. TBA Coolidge
    TBA
    @RobtGilsdorf

    She may have lost the election here, but she’s big in India.

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  28. Joseph Eagar Member
    Joseph Eagar
    @JosephEagar

    “I won areas representing 2/3rds of America’s GDP”  Did Hillary Clinton just take responsibility, as a Democrat, for economic inequality?  Because she didn’t win 2/3rd of the vote.

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  29. TBA Coolidge
    TBA
    @RobtGilsdorf

    blood thirsty neocon (View Comment):
    “Hillary’s the devil” is so 2016-7. Let President Trump rise or fall on his own accomplishments. The Hillary bogeywoman no longer serves any purpose.

    According to horror movie rules she’s going to jump out at you any minute now.

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  30. TBA Coolidge
    TBA
    @RobtGilsdorf

    Wintermute (View Comment):
    I was struck by her statement that the parts of the country that voted for her represent 2/3 of the Gross National Product. That fraction is skewed by the large populations that live near the coasts and drive the service economies there. But how much wheat, corn, soybeans, beef, chicken, pork, and petroleum products do those regions produce? Very little and they would be in a bad way if “red” America did not produce those things for them.

    Sure, but does middle America make movies? Or apps? Besides which, flyover country has some of the lowest-paid professional dog walkers in all of the US, so I mean, sure sometimes people eat food and all, but where are they gonna learn about what’s cool?

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