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We’ve been waiting a very long time. We have watched Republicans wringing their hands, trying to be polite, and deferring to their “honorable colleagues.” Finally, I think we’re seeing a couple of Republicans who are indicating they’ve had enough. I don’t know how long it will last, but I’m cautiously encouraged.

The first Republican I want to give a shout out to is Devin Nunes. Since the first major controversy arose in the House Intelligence Committee over the Russian dossier, which Nunes chairs, he has had to fight for his voice to be heard and for his reputation. We are now seeing the results of his efforts.

In spite of Adam Schiff’s pitiful behavior in trying to stop, discount and rage about the Republican memo, Nunes has been a stalwart representative for truth and justice. He has refused to bow to defend himself against the onslaught of insults from Adam Schiff. He has waited to see the Democrat rebuttal—and he, in his responsible and undramatic way has torn it apart, point by point. He now is collecting information about the missteps and possible corruption of the Department of State. I’d say he’s on a roll.

The other person who has actually surprised me is Paul Ryan in his determination to drive the conversation about gun control legislatively:

Speaker Paul Ryan said Tuesday that House Republicans would focus on law enforcement failures, not tighter gun control, in the wake of the latest mass shooting, which left 17 children and educators dead at a Florida school on Feb. 14.

“There was a colossal breakdown in the system,” Ryan, R-Wis., told reporters at a news conference on Tuesday. Ryan cited inaction by a deputy stationed outside the school and tips called in to federal and local law enforcement officials about the alleged shooter, Nikolas Cruz, which raised concerns that the 19-year-old was planning such a rampage.

He was also prepared to clarify the conversation that should be had:

Ryan dismissed calls from Democrats and some survivors of the school shooting for stronger gun laws, including a ban on assault rifles and legislation to close loopholes in the background check system.

“We shouldn’t be banning guns for law-abiding citizens,” the GOP leader said. “We should be focusing on making sure that citizens who should not get guns in the first place don’t get those guns.”

I appreciated that he wasn’t ruling out anything, but he was stating clear Republican principles. It was so refreshing.

So I hope that Nunes and Ryan are both stepping up determinedly in ways that the Republican party needs to see and follow. I wonder about a few things:

Do you think that Donald Trump has set an example of fearlessness (in spite of any attributes of his you might not like)?

Do you see any other lawmakers who could join with Nunes and Ryan to move the Republican conversation forward?

What about those Senators?

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  1. Profile Photo Member

    Susan Quinn: Do you think that Donald Trump has set an example of fearlessness (in spite of any attributes of his you might not like)?

    I’ve thought about his “attributes” at greater length than this comment will reflect. And I’ve come to wonder if the very “attributes” we find distasteful in our President–we who self-identify as conservatives or traditionalists–have not chose our label based on our “comfort” with the known, with reality, and our discomfort with “coloring outside the lines.” It is a rare idol smasher who sees value “outside the lines”. An even rarer one who is willing to step outside those lines in pursuit of something not found “inside the lines.” To leave the lines and step outside requires fearlessness. And perhaps that is the admirable part in a “package deal” of attributes we may not–indeed do not like.

    • #1
    • February 27, 2018, at 1:43 PM PST
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  2. Percival Thatcher
    Percival Joined in the first year of Ricochet Ricochet Charter Member

    The standard Republican mantra — “this is not the hill we want to die on” — needs to be given a rest. How about “Might as well be hanged for a sheep as for a lamb?”

    • #2
    • February 27, 2018, at 1:45 PM PST
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  3. Susan Quinn Contributor
    Susan Quinn

    Derek Simmons (View Comment):

    Susan Quinn: Do you think that Donald Trump has set an example of fearlessness (in spite of any attributes of his you might not like)?

    I’ve thought about his “attributes” at greater length than this comment will reflect. And I’ve come to wonder if the very “attributes” we find distasteful in our President–we who self-identify as conservatives or traditionalists–have not chose our label based on our “comfort” with the known, with reality, and our discomfort with “coloring outside the lines.” It is a rare idol smasher who sees value “outside the lines”. An even rarer one who is willing to step outside those lines in pursuit of something not found “inside the lines.” To leave the lines and step outside requires fearlessness. And perhaps that is the admirable part in a “package deal” of attributes we may not–indeed do not like.

    Beautifully and thoughtfully said, @dereksimmons. Would he have accomplished as much without his brashness? (I don’t want this to be a Trump post, though). I just wonder, even subconsciously, he is influencing others to be more assertive

    • #3
    • February 27, 2018, at 1:48 PM PST
    • 8 likes
  4. Susan Quinn Contributor
    Susan Quinn

    Percival (View Comment):
    The standard Republican mantra — “this is not the hill we want to die on” — needs to be given a rest. How about “Might as well be hanged for a sheep as for a lamb?”

    We now have ample mountains of issues challenging us, @percival. We need to take on a bunch, just to get in shape, and make things happen. It’s the only way to get the MSM attention, by deluging them with successes–isn’t that a great phrase?

    • #4
    • February 27, 2018, at 1:51 PM PST
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  5. Bob Thompson Member

    Paul Craig Roberts nominates Devin Nunes for President and Ray McGovern for CIA Director.

    • #5
    • February 27, 2018, at 1:51 PM PST
    • 2 likes
  6. Seawriter Contributor

    Percival (View Comment):
    The standard Republican mantra — “this is not the hill we want to die on” — needs to be given a rest. How about “Might as well be hanged for a sheep as for a lamb?”

    Or maybe ““Here’s my strategy . . . we win, they lose.”

    Or “There is no substitute for victory.”

    Or “Americans love a winner and will not tolerate a loser.”

    Or “Americans play to win all the time.”

    • #6
    • February 27, 2018, at 1:51 PM PST
    • 18 likes
  7. Stad Thatcher

    Republicans may have the drive, but do they have the stamina to keep it alive?

    Susan Quinn: What about those Senators?

    Where Republican progress goes only to die . . .

    • #7
    • February 27, 2018, at 1:55 PM PST
    • 6 likes
  8. Jager Coolidge
    Jager Joined in the first year of Ricochet Ricochet Charter Member

    Susan Quinn: Do you think that Donald Trump has set an example of fearlessness (in spite of any attributes of his you might not like)?

    Yes. I think Trump has shown that you don’t have to bow down to Democratic demands or the media.

    I would also argue that Ted Cruz did this as well. He pushed back against the Republican Party, he shut down the government. Whether you think this was good tactic or not, he came in 2nd in the 2016 Presidential race. The top two finishers were two of the people most likely to fight back against popular narratives. Republicans need to learn the lesson of Trump and Cruz, their voters will not punish them standing against Democratic attacks.

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    • February 27, 2018, at 1:55 PM PST
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  9. Stina Member

    Derek Simmons (View Comment):

    Susan Quinn: Do you think that Donald Trump has set an example of fearlessness (in spite of any attributes of his you might not like)?

    I’ve thought about his “attributes” at greater length than this comment will reflect. And I’ve come to wonder if the very “attributes” we find distasteful in our President–we who self-identify as conservatives or traditionalists–have not chose our label based on our “comfort” with the known, with reality, and our discomfort with “coloring outside the lines.” It is a rare idol smasher who sees value “outside the lines”. An even rarer one who is willing to step outside those lines in pursuit of something not found “inside the lines.” To leave the lines and step outside requires fearlessness. And perhaps that is the admirable part in a “package deal” of attributes we may not–indeed do not like.

    This is a good comment.

    I think Trump will draw ire no matter what. For Ryan and Nunez, this is a good thing. Trump will say or do something outrageous – Like call Hogg a Crisis Actor – and no attention will be given to house and Senate until something is underway or the Democrats have found their next squirrel.

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    • February 27, 2018, at 1:56 PM PST
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  10. Autistic License Thatcher

    Trump is impulsive, abusive, manipulative, thin-skinned, shameless, reactive, and frequently irrational.

    He is Alinskian. In short, he’s a Democrat in drag. His unstated motto is The Worse The Better.

    But Romney was a decent man and look where that got him. And us.

    I don’t see a way to walk back from this cliff. We say, often, “how you got Trump,” but the left won’t start nominating Moynihans no matter what kind of truce we offer. They just don’t seem to have the repertoire anymore. Webb was the last gasp of that kind of Democrat.

    But, I suspect I’m going over old ground here. Sorry.

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    • February 27, 2018, at 2:01 PM PST
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  11. Profile Photo Member

    About Trump, I was skeptical until the convention and have several posts at Chicago Boys about it.

    https://chicagoboyz.net/archives/50860.html

    The problem with Cruz is that he has few allies in the Senate and his shutdown was not popular. I would like to see Trump nominate him to the Supreme Court which is a better venue for him.

    Mitch McConnell is the villain in my opinion. He gave us Roy Moore by backing a corrupt deal with Strange and blocking Mo Brooks a real conservative, who was a political enemy. Had McConnell stayed out of it, we would have one more GOP Senator.

    The delays in confirming nominees, even for ambassadors, is disgraceful.

    I hope Ryan is finally getting on board. The election is coming fast.

    Nunes is a hero which is why Democrats will go all out to defeat him this fall.

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    • February 27, 2018, at 2:04 PM PST
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  12. Profile Photo Member

    Autistic License (View Comment):
    Webb was the last gasp of that kind of Democrat.

    I’m reading his book. Good stuff.

    • #12
    • February 27, 2018, at 2:04 PM PST
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  13. Susan Quinn Contributor
    Susan Quinn

    Seawriter (View Comment):

    Percival (View Comment):
    The standard Republican mantra — “this is not the hill we want to die on” — needs to be given a rest. How about “Might as well be hanged for a sheep as for a lamb?”

    Or maybe ““Here’s my strategy . . . we win, they lose.”

    Or “There is no substitute for victory.”

    Or “Americans love a winner and will not tolerate a loser.”

    Or “Americans play to win all the time.”

    Yippee!!!!!!!!

    • #13
    • February 27, 2018, at 2:08 PM PST
    • 5 likes
  14. Susan Quinn Contributor
    Susan Quinn

    Bob Thompson (View Comment):
    Paul Craig Roberts nominates Devin Nunes for President and Ray McGovern for CIA Director.

    Except Trump said he’s running again . But it’s a long time until 2020.

    • #14
    • February 27, 2018, at 2:26 PM PST
    • 2 likes
  15. Susan Quinn Contributor
    Susan Quinn

    Jager (View Comment):

    Susan Quinn: Do you think that Donald Trump has set an example of fearlessness (in spite of any attributes of his you might not like)?

    Yes. I think Trump has shown that you don’t have to bow down to Democratic demands or the media.

    I would also argue that Ted Cruz did this as well. He pushed back against the Republican Party, he shut down the government. Whether you think this was good tactic or not, he came in 2nd in the 2016 Presidential race. The top two finishers were two of the people most likely to fight back against popular narratives. Republicans need to learn the lesson of Trump and Cruz, their voters will not punish them standing against Democratic attacks.

    Where is Cruz?

    • #15
    • February 27, 2018, at 2:28 PM PST
    • 1 like
  16. Susan Quinn Contributor
    Susan Quinn

    Autistic License (View Comment):
    Trump is impulsive, abusive, manipulative, thin-skinned, shameless, reactive, and frequently irrational.

    He is Alinskian. In short, he’s a Democrat in drag. His unstated motto is The Worse The Better.

    But Romney was a decent man and look where that got him. And us.

    I don’t see a way to walk back from this cliff. We say, often, “how you got Trump,” but the left won’t start nominating Moynihans no matter what kind of truce we offer. They just don’t seem to have the repertoire anymore. Webb was the last gasp of that kind of Democrat.

    But, I suspect I’m going over old ground here. Sorry.

    How about a positive speculation?

    • #16
    • February 27, 2018, at 2:30 PM PST
    • 1 like
  17. Henry Castaigne Member

    I think a big part of the reason that the right can drive the argument is that the left is ignoring facts and arguments and just yelling at everyone that disagrees with them. For once, the right is telling a more convincing stories.

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    • February 27, 2018, at 2:39 PM PST
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  18. Profile Photo Member

    Susan Quinn (View Comment):
    He is Alinskian. In short, he’s a Democrat in drag. His unstated motto is The Worse The Better.

    Disagree vigorously. This is the standard line of the NeverTrumpers but I see no evidence for it. If anything Trump is libertarian and I am too.

    His crude, rude persona let him break through the media wall. Reagan did it too but that was an age when the Deep State was much weaker. The Media trashed Reagan but he still got his message through. He was hated almost as much as Trump. He had a Democrat Congress but the Democrats were not crazy then. Tip O’Neil was a guy he could do business with. Schumer and Pelosi are afraid of their crazy base.

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    • February 27, 2018, at 2:57 PM PST
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  19. Kevin Schulte Member

    Susan Quinn: Do you think that Donald Trump has set an example of fearlessness (in spite of any attributes of his you might not like)?

    Susan, I think it is almost all attributed to The Don.

    I don’t know if you saw Lord Of The Rings, The Two Towers.

    Wormtongue was adviser to King Theoden of Rohan. Wormtongue put a spell on Theoden which put him in perpetual fog. He was only able to listen to Wormtongue’s council, all bad. Once Wormtongue’s butt was kicked out of the palace, the fog that paralyzed Theoden was lifted and he was able to rule again.

    Wormtongue = Democrats , News Media, political correctness, race politics, gender politics, etc………

    King Theoden = Republican Politicians

    Trump grabbed Wormtongue by the ankles and spanked his heinie right out of the palace. Then proceeded to ridicule him mercilessly and gets away with it.

    Now the scales are beginning to fall from the Republicans eyes. In the age of The Don, we have a new paradigm. The thing is, the Republicans must embrace it. It is in their nature to go round up Wormtongue, take him to dinner and home for a night cap. The Fog would then return with a vengeance.

    • #19
    • February 27, 2018, at 3:38 PM PST
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  20. Seawriter Contributor

    Mike-K (View Comment):
    Schumer and Pelosi are afraid of their crazy base.

    I’m afraid of their crazy base, too. Any sane person would be.

    • #20
    • February 27, 2018, at 3:40 PM PST
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  21. Ralphie Member

    It is about time, and I hope they keep it up. The idea that government is accountable to the people, and that the Bill of Rights are serious documents that are not outdated, is not a radical veiwpoint. Most average Americans are just trying to get through another day, pay bills, raise kids. They need the security of order, which conservatives are good at.

    The right needs to defend what they know is good and right, because we aren’t hearing that from popular culture.

    • #21
    • February 27, 2018, at 3:44 PM PST
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  22. Tex929rr Coolidge

    Mike-K (View Comment):
    The problem with Cruz is that he has few allies in the Senate and his shutdown was not popular. I would like to see Trump nominate him to the Supreme Court which is a better venue for him.

    Just imagining the look on Sotomayor’s face while Cruz asked questions during oral arguments is delicious.

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    • February 27, 2018, at 3:51 PM PST
    • 11 likes
  23. Susan Quinn Contributor
    Susan Quinn

    Henry Castaigne (View Comment):
    I think a big part of the reason that the right can drive the argument is that the left is ignoring facts and arguments and just yelling at everyone that disagrees with them. For once, the right is telling a more convincing stories.

    Very observant, @henrycastaigne. I hope that everyone is realizing that the Left are blowhards with little substance. Thanks!

    • #23
    • February 27, 2018, at 4:04 PM PST
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  24. Bob Thompson Member

    Susan Quinn (View Comment):

    Bob Thompson (View Comment):
    Paul Craig Roberts nominates Devin Nunes for President and Ray McGovern for CIA Director.

    Except Trump said he’s running again . But it’s a long time until 2020.

    That’s all good. Nunes is young and I hope Republicans or a successor conservative party will be competitive beyond 2020. He needs more time on the national stage to establish himself. I think Roberts main point was these are two people who have worked tirelessly attempting to preserve and validate the idea that non-partisanship in the bureaucracy, especially the powerful law enforcement and intelligence components, is essential to preserve our constitutionally guaranteed individual liberties. If these agencies assisted candidate Clinton’s campaign in a partisan way, those responsible need to be held accountable. Clinton’s campaign colluded with Russians in gathering opposition research and it looks as if certain individuals in government helped. I think it is important how this resolves.

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    • February 27, 2018, at 4:05 PM PST
    • 8 likes
  25. Susan Quinn Contributor
    Susan Quinn

    Mike-K (View Comment):

    Susan Quinn (View Comment):
    He is Alinskian. In short, he’s a Democrat in drag. His unstated motto is The Worse The Better.

    Disagree vigorously. This is the standard line of the NeverTrumpers but I see no evidence for it. If anything Trump is libertarian and I am too.

    His crude, rude persona let him break through the media wall. Reagan did it too but that was an age when the Deep State was much weaker. The Media trashed Reagan but he still got his message through. He was hated almost as much as Trump. He had a Democrat Congress but the Democrats were not crazy then. Tip O’Neil was a guy he could do business with. Schumer and Pelosi are afraid of their crazy base.

    @mike-k, it looks like I said this from your paste. Just so you know, I didn’t. ;-)

    • #25
    • February 27, 2018, at 4:08 PM PST
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  26. Jack Shepherd Coolidge

    Susan Quinn (View Comment):

    Percival (View Comment):
    The standard Republican mantra — “this is not the hill we want to die on” — needs to be given a rest. How about “Might as well be hanged for a sheep as for a lamb?”

    We now have ample mountains of issues challenging us, @percival. We need to take on a bunch, just to get in shape, and make things happen. It’s the only way to get the MSM attention, by deluging them with successes–isn’t that a great phrase?

    How about we start by not letting the Progressives create “issues” out of nothing, purely as a wedge to divide the country and characterize us as “evil”? To whit:

    Gay “marriage”

    “Transgender” anything

    “Gun” control

    • #26
    • February 27, 2018, at 4:10 PM PST
    • 7 likes
  27. Susan Quinn Contributor
    Susan Quinn

    Kevin Schulte (View Comment):

    Susan Quinn: Do you think that Donald Trump has set an example of fearlessness (in spite of any attributes of his you might not like)?

    Susan, I think it is almost all attributed to The Don.

    I don’t know if you saw Lord Of The Rings, The Two Towers.

    Wormtongue was adviser to King Theoden of Rohan. Wormtongue put a spell on Theoden which put him in perpetual fog. He was only able to listen to Wormtongue’s council, all bad. Once Wormtongue’s butt was kicked out of the palace, the fog that paralyzed Theoden was lifted and he was able to rule again.

    Wormtongue = Democrats , News Media, political correctness, race politics, gender politics, etc………

    King Theoden = Republican Politicians

    Trump grabbed Wormtongue by the ankles and spanked his heinie right out of the palace. Then proceeded to ridicule him mercilessly and gets away with it.

    Now the scales are beginning to fall from the Republicans eyes. In the age of The Don, we have a new paradigm. The thing is, the Republicans must embrace it. It is in their nature to go round up Wormtongue, take him to dinner and home for a night cap. The Fog would then return with a vengeance.

    Wow, what a creative analogy, @kevinschulte! Sorry I didn’t see the movie! But I get your message. Sometimes these “mythic tales” are great substitutes for real events. Thanks!

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    • February 27, 2018, at 4:11 PM PST
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  28. Susan Quinn Contributor
    Susan Quinn

    Ralphie (View Comment):
    The right needs to defend what they know is good and right, because we aren’t hearing that from popular culture.

    Yes, indeed! Thanks, @ralphie!

    • #28
    • February 27, 2018, at 4:12 PM PST
    • 1 like
  29. Susan Quinn Contributor
    Susan Quinn

    Seawriter (View Comment):

    Mike-K (View Comment):
    Schumer and Pelosi are afraid of their crazy base.

    I’m afraid of their crazy base, too. Any sane person would be.

    I keep wondering if the Democrats can go even farther Left than they’ve become. It is a scary thought, @seawriter.

    • #29
    • February 27, 2018, at 4:13 PM PST
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  30. Susan Quinn Contributor
    Susan Quinn

    Tex929rr (View Comment):

    Mike-K (View Comment):
    The problem with Cruz is that he has few allies in the Senate and his shutdown was not popular. I would like to see Trump nominate him to the Supreme Court which is a better venue for him.

    Just imagining the look on Sotomayor’s face while Cruz asked questions during oral arguments is delicious.

    Woo-hoo! I wanna be there!

    • #30
    • February 27, 2018, at 4:14 PM PST
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