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Desperation and Denial: The Dems Should Be Very Worried
Western Chauvinist has a post that features a jaw-dropping video interview of attorney, Joe diGenova, regarding details and a timeline of the events leading up to the current discussion of the FISA memo. You really must listen to the whole thing. I was so taken aback that I had to check out who this guy was.
Joe diGenova has been around for years:
For four years, diGenova was United States Attorney, District of Columbia, which is the largest such office, having more than 400 attorneys. He supervised complex Federal criminal and civil matters including international drug smuggling, public corruption, espionage, insider trading, tax fraud, extradition, fraud, RICO, export control and international terrorism.
He and his wife, Victoria Toensing also represented victims in the Lois Lerner IRS scandal and have been in private practice for many years.
In a quick survey of criticisms of DiGenova, I found this piece:
Discredited Republican lawyer Joseph diGenova is baselessly claiming that Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton and her staff will face criminal prosecution by the FBI over her use of private email as secretary of state, despite numerous media reports explaining that Clinton is not the target of the FBI’s investigation, which is also not criminal in nature. DiGenova has been discredited as a result of unprofessional behavior while working for Republicans in the 1990s and false claims he has made about the September 2012 Benghazi attacks.
Need I point out that the article came from Media Matters, a George Soros site?
So I’m getting very excited about the direction of all these recent investigations. I see Devin Nunes continuing to strategize the release of additional information that will target not only the FBI and the DOJ, but also the State Department. I see Chuck Grassley challenging the FBI for the redactions on the letter he and Lindsey Graham sent out, validating the four-page Republican memo. I see Trey Gowdy stating that the Democrats’ memo doesn’t invalidate any facts from the Republican memo. And I see Adam Schiff continuing to defend his positions, looking more ridiculous and desperate every day.
I think the Republicans are finally prepared to fight back. We just need to find a way to get their information out and stop the mainstream media from publishing false information.
Joe DiGenova says that Fusion GPS paid off several people to get out the lies; some of those were reporters. Will the mainstream media finally tattle on their own?
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Did Andrew McCarthy apologize in the past few days? About what?
I hope those NT’s who are, despite all evidence and probability, still saying “nothing to see here” will take their lumps if/when incontrovertible proof comes out that Donald Trump was the victim of a deep state conspiracy. I still can’t get over the fact that some of them said “no big deal” when it was revealed that Hillary and the DNC paid for the Trump dossier. I hope such people who have been so consistently wrong will not cry “ad hominem!” and “bad faith!” when I remind them of how wrong they continue to be.
BTW, no, I don’t have to issue any mea culpa’s if it turns out that the deep state conspiracy was just a big misunderstanding (unlikely), because I don’t have to prove Trump’s innocence; it’s still the accusers who bear the burden of proof in our great country. Besides, I have never styled myself a “neutral observer”. I’m here to tell you that I like Trump; I like his policies; and I like winning.
Unlike some, I’m not here to preen or audition for a contributor position. I think that ship sailed long ago.
For not believing it was possible the FBI never corroborated the allegations contained in the Steele dossier when using the dossier as evidence of probable cause before the FISA court (ie: FBI never interviewed the Russian sources of the allegations):
http://www.nationalreview.com/article/456287/grassley-graham-memo-affirms-nunes-memo-fisa-steele-dossier
I spent many months assuring people that nothing like this could ever happen — that the FBI and Justice Department would not countenance the provision to the FISA court of uncorroborated allegations of heinous misconduct. When Trump enthusiasts accused them of rigging the process, I countered that they probably had not even used the Steele dossier. If the Justice Department had used it in writing a FISA warrant application, I insisted that the FBI would independently verify any important facts presented to the court, make any disclosures that ought in fairness be made so the judge could evaluate the credibility of the sources, and compellingly demonstrate probable cause before alleging that an American was a foreign agent.
I was wrong.
@valiuth, here is a quote I would, most respectfully of course, submit for your consideration in view of your recent dialogue with several Ricochetti but especially the most gracious @susanquinn:
‘Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not to his own facts.” Daniel Patrick Moynihan
Perhaps if you actually read some of the source materials, you might reach a further and deeper appreciation of what is actually going on in these areas in lieu of suggesting there is “NO misconduct on the part of the FBI.” Really? Have you actually read any of the memos or commentary which have been extensively cited and linked here?
After you do, please get back to me. I would welcome the opportunity to have an actual, informed, dialogue with you.
Sincerely, Jim
Thanks @edisonparks
I thought maybe it was something new that I missed.
I think McCarthy was just in believing what had always been true in his dealings with the FBI.
What a betrayal by the FBI, to McCarthy, and to the American people.
You’re not suggesting that I did preen for a contributor position, are you? I just want to know if I’m supposed to take that comment personally.
Thanks for your kind description of me, @jimgeorge. I think you’ve elaborated on what I intended to say very well. I would also say that there is a difference between facts, and ultimately drawing conclusions. There are many, many conclusions that we hope will be drawn, although some things may forever remain a mystery. Conclusions can be dissected and debated, and we can agree or not.
We’re all Sean Hannity now.
It could be something else I suppose, and this was not so much an apology but more of an admission of an error.
Not at all, Susan. You were born a contributor!
Now you sound like you’re kissing up to me . . . but that’s okay. ;-)
Agreed. I have been reluctant to “go all in” believing the Obama administration could be this incredibly dirty.
The fact that the major proponents of this theory have been Fox News and Sean Hannity made me constantly check my bias and question my sanity.
I listen to Ricochet, GLOP, Commentary, and Mad Dogs podcasts and they all seem reluctant to go “there” which again made me doubt my gut instincts …..
Am I nuts?
Many political conservatives also share a conservative temperament, a resistance to jumping to conclusions or sudden changes of course in established institutions. It is as important that we have these types of conservatives attempting to pull back the reins when our side get excited about something as it when they yell “Stop!” at the other side. Sometimes they are too circumspect, but that balances those of us who are too eager. This instinct is not vile, it’s patient, and, if they do come around to your way of thinking, more slowly than you did, their skepticism will be the greatest asset to your argument.
Yes.
Maybe, but time is of the essence. If this charade is allowed to go on much longer an innocent president may be impeached.
I don’t want them over here at all. Let’s dump the whole lot of them and I don’t care if they figure things out or not. This is serious stuff here and these few people (elites) actively are working for the other side for God knows what reason that I don’t even care to discuss with them any more. I’m done — no making nice with people who are less trustworthy than Harry Reid or Nancy Pelosi or Chuck Shumer. We can never trust them again — they have shown us that when the chips are down they jump ship and help the most leftwing and debased people in the country. They lowered themselves into that cess pool.
Well said, @dorrk. Since things are much quieter than one year ago, I think we can value what we all bring to the conversation. If we dislike a person’s approach, we can always ignore them. Works for me!
I don’t think so–but then I don’t know you personally! Seriously, I think we all feel a bit bounced around by the facts. The people who want to glom on to a position might feel secure; those of us who are responsible and continually weigh the facts are the ones who might struggle. I think that shows good sense.
I wish I knew who was slowing it down. If the Reps are trying to drag their feet until the election, I think that’s a bad idea. If they’re waiting for the IG report, I’ll try to be patient.