Desperation and Denial: The Dems Should Be Very Worried

 

Western Chauvinist has a post that features a jaw-dropping video interview of attorney, Joe diGenova, regarding details and a timeline of the events leading up to the current discussion of the FISA memo. You really must listen to the whole thing. I was so taken aback that I had to check out who this guy was.

Joe diGenova has been around for years:

For four years, diGenova was United States Attorney, District of Columbia, which is the largest such office, having more than 400 attorneys.  He supervised complex Federal criminal and civil matters including international drug smuggling, public corruption, espionage, insider trading, tax fraud, extradition, fraud, RICO, export control and international terrorism.

He and his wife, Victoria Toensing also represented victims in the Lois Lerner IRS scandal and have been in private practice for many years.

In a quick survey of criticisms of DiGenova, I found this piece:

Discredited Republican lawyer Joseph diGenova is baselessly claiming that Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton and her staff will face criminal prosecution by the FBI over her use of private email as secretary of state, despite numerous media reports explaining that Clinton is not the target of the FBI’s investigation, which is also not criminal in nature. DiGenova has been discredited as a result of unprofessional behavior while working for Republicans in the 1990s and false claims he has made about the September 2012 Benghazi attacks.

Need I point out that the article came from Media Matters, a George Soros site?

So I’m getting very excited about the direction of all these recent investigations. I see Devin Nunes continuing to strategize the release of additional information that will target not only the FBI and the DOJ, but also the State Department. I see Chuck Grassley challenging the FBI for the redactions on the letter he and Lindsey Graham sent out, validating the four-page Republican memo. I see Trey Gowdy stating that the Democrats’ memo doesn’t invalidate any facts from the Republican memo. And I see Adam Schiff continuing to defend his positions, looking more ridiculous and desperate every day.

I think the Republicans are finally prepared to fight back. We just need to find a way to get their information out and stop the mainstream media from publishing false information.

Joe DiGenova says that Fusion GPS paid off several people to get out the lies; some of those were reporters. Will the mainstream media finally tattle on their own?

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  1. Richard Easton Coolidge
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    Bryan G. Stephens (View Comment):

    DocJay (View Comment):
    Fusion GPS will end up exposing that most journalists are for sale. Not a few, but most.

    We are approaching the point where people who don’t feel that something horrible happened ( DOJ/FBI/State/Obama Admin /IRS/) are the ones with tinfoil hats.

    Yes! Or they are reveled as outer party. In short, we now see that much of conservatism Inc. is really wanna be ruling class.

    This reminds me of what my wife found out about the Chicago Republican Party.  They weren’t interested in fighting the Democrats; they wanted to get a few crumbs, such as bond deals, in return for letting the Dims have complete control.

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  2. Larry Koler Inactive
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    Mike-K (View Comment):
    Another important data point is this CTH post describing a Judge Jeannine interview last night.

    https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2018/02/10/game-over-judge-jeanine-interview-with-hpsci-rep-chris-stewart/

    Bill Priestap is cooperating.

    When you understand how central E.W. “Bill” Priestap was to the entire 2016/2017 ‘Russian Conspiracy Operation‘, the absence of his name, amid all others, created a curiosity. I wrote a twitter thread about him last year and wrote about him extensively, because it seemed unfathomable his name has not been a part of any of the recent story-lines.

    Priestap was Strozk’s superior and head of FBI counterintel. He has been very quiet and now we know he has been cooperating (spilling his guts) to the committee.

    FBI Director James Comey was ducking responsibility in March 2017 by blaming FBI Director of Counterintelligence Bill Priestap for not informing congress of the operation that began in July 2016. (9 months prior).

    At that moment, that very specific moment during that March 20th hearing, anyone who watches these hearings closely could see FBI Director James Comey was attempting to create his own exit from being ensnared in the consequences from the wiretapping and surveillance operation of candidate Trump, President-elect Trump, and eventually President Donald Trump.

    Back in the Bush presidency the left was eager for “Fitzmas,” which was going to be “frog marching Cheney out of the White House.” What we may see instead is the house of FBI cards falling a month before the election.

    Thanks for this info.

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  3. Susan Quinn Contributor
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    Roberto the Weary (View Comment):

    Susan Quinn: So I’m getting very excited about the direction of all these recent investigations.

    I do not find this exciting, I find these revelations appalling.

    The Democrat actions are appalling, @robertotheweary. But the Republican response is also exciting, since for years they worried far too much about offending people. We need to see more of these kinds of actions from the Reps, and less worry about public perceptions. It’s called fighting for truth.

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  4. Jeff Hawkins Inactive
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    Spin (View Comment):

    Susan Quinn: We just need to find a way to get their information out and stop the mainstream media from publishing false information.

    This is why the Democrats are not “very afraid.”

    This, and the Media Matters spin will somehow magically find its way into the mainstream should anyone deign to bring this man’s analysis up.

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  5. Valiuth Member
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    @Valiuth

    Susan Quinn: I think the Republicans are finally prepared to fight back. We just need to find a way to get their information out and stop the mainstream media from publishing false information.

    Fighting back is not the same as telling the truth. And that is what gets me about all of these fights, the actual truth seems obscured by both sides in favor of each pushing a narrative that serves their political ends. No one really seems to be fighting for releasing all the information so that the public can judge. Everyone seems interested in releasing the facts that serve their own case.

    We need the FISA warrant application to be released. No more depending on Republicans or Democrats describing the evidence to us. Show us the darn evidence up front and we will judge it for ourselves.

     

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  6. Susan Quinn Contributor
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    Valiuth (View Comment):
    We need the FISA warrant application to be released. No more depending on Republicans or Democrats describing the evidence to us. Show us the darn evidence up front and we will judge it for ourselves.

    I agree, @valiuth. But the people who can do that are dragging their feet. What a surprise. Not only that, I wonder if the Republicans are putting out the information slowly, to give people a chance to take it in. Also, whether we like it or not, we may only be able to win if we use the same tactics as the Democrats. If we don’t, we’ll be ignored or the information will be obfuscated. Finally, I wonder if the Reps are planning to release the most damaging information (to the Dems) until we get closer to the 2018 elections? You and I hate the game, but playing by the rules doesn’t seem to work. Sigh.

    • #36
  7. EDISONPARKS Member
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    @user_54742

    Valiuth (View Comment):

    Susan Quinn: I think the Republicans are finally prepared to fight back. We just need to find a way to get their information out and stop the mainstream media from publishing false information.

    Fighting back is not the same as telling the truth. And that is what gets me about all of these fights, the actual truth seems obscured by both sides in favor of each pushing a narrative that serves their political ends. No one really seems to be fighting for releasing all the information so that the public can judge. Everyone seems interested in releasing the facts that serve their own case.

    We need the FISA warrant application to be released. No more depending on Republicans or Democrats describing the evidence to us. Show us the darn evidence up front and we will judge it for ourselves.

    Direct your ire at Adam Schiff and the (D)’s blocking the gathering and release of all information during the entire House Intel Committee investigation into these matters.

    Here is another clue as to why we’re not getting any information …. the MSM insists on not finding out .. it could damage National Security don’t you know …. a MSM 180 degree change in policy on disclosure of classified information …. that’s a little weird no?

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  8. Percival Thatcher
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    EDISONPARKS (View Comment):

    Valiuth (View Comment):

    Susan Quinn: I think the Republicans are finally prepared to fight back. We just need to find a way to get their information out and stop the mainstream media from publishing false information.

    Fighting back is not the same as telling the truth. And that is what gets me about all of these fights, the actual truth seems obscured by both sides in favor of each pushing a narrative that serves their political ends. No one really seems to be fighting for releasing all the information so that the public can judge. Everyone seems interested in releasing the facts that serve their own case.

    We need the FISA warrant application to be released. No more depending on Republicans or Democrats describing the evidence to us. Show us the darn evidence up front and we will judge it for ourselves.

    Direct your ire at Adam Schiff and the (D)’s blocking the gathering and release of all information during the entire House Intel Committee investigation into these matters.

    Here is another clue as to why we’re not getting any information …. the MSM insists on not finding out .. it could damage National Security don’t you know …. a MSM 180 degree change in policy on disclosure of classified information …. that’s a little weird no?

    • #38
  9. cdor Member
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    EDISONPARKS (View Comment):

    Valiuth (View Comment):

    Susan Quinn: I think the Republicans are finally prepared to fight back. We just need to find a way to get their information out and stop the mainstream media from publishing false information.

    Fighting back is not the same as telling the truth. And that is what gets me about all of these fights, the actual truth seems obscured by both sides in favor of each pushing a narrative that serves their political ends. No one really seems to be fighting for releasing all the information so that the public can judge. Everyone seems interested in releasing the facts that serve their own case.

    We need the FISA warrant application to be released. No more depending on Republicans or Democrats describing the evidence to us. Show us the darn evidence up front and we will judge it for ourselves.

    Direct your ire at Adam Schiff and the (D)’s blocking the gathering and release of all information during the entire House Intel Committee investigation into these matters.

    Here is another clue as to why we’re not getting any information …. the MSM insists on not finding out .. it could damage National Security don’t you know …. a MSM 180 degree change in policy on disclosure of classified information …. that’s a little weird no?

    I know there is politics…and then there is National security…and then there is the citizen’s right to know. But there is also the President of the United States, who has the final say in any and all classification matters. So who cares what Adam Schiff or the NYT or the WAPO wants kept secret. We got the Man and he’s got the power.

    • #39
  10. TheSockMonkey Inactive
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    Susan Quinn (View Comment):

    Valiuth (View Comment):
    We need the FISA warrant application to be released. No more depending on Republicans or Democrats describing the evidence to us. Show us the darn evidence up front and we will judge it for ourselves.

    I agree, @valiuth. But the people who can do that are dragging their feet. What a surprise. Not only that, I wonder if the Republicans are putting out the information slowly, to give people a chance to take it in. Also, whether we like it or not, we may only be able to win if we use the same tactics as the Democrats. If we don’t, we’ll be ignored or the information will be obfuscated. Finally, I wonder if the Reps are planning to release the most damaging information (to the Dems) until we get closer to the 2018 elections? You and I hate the game, but playing by the rules doesn’t seem to work. Sigh.

    I’m also wondering if the Republicans are using this tactic. I think Andrew Breitbart and Project Veritas both spoke in favor of letting information out slowly, to keep a scandal in the news, and saving the more damning information for last.

    • #40
  11. RufusRJones Member
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    And don’t forget who the bagman is between the DNC / Hillary and Fusion GPS. Think of all of the money these people have. For what?

     

    • #41
  12. Jim George Member
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    @susanquinn, at the risk of “tooting my own horn” I would like to be presumptuous enough to refer you to my post entitled “If they can do it to Carter Page, they can do it to you”, not so much for the post itself but for the most interesting conversation it prompted. In subsequent comments, I referred to several excellent articles which have come out in just the past few days which corroborate the trend you and the other commenters have noted and here are two of my comments containing references to those sources for your perusal and that of the other friends who are interested in this ongoing nightmare of police state conduct:

    “For an unusually hard-hitting piece from a usually very cautious expert in this insane and blatant abuse of power, see Andrew McCarthy’s article this morning on National Review Online. It is a powerful indictment of the conduct of the entire out of control Obama-Lynch-Comey-McCabe-Yates-etc police state machine.”

    “Please read both items linked in my post, especially the Senate memo itself, and then read McCarthy’s article of this morning, and also the Eli Lake piece this afternoon on Bloomberg and you will fully understand the warrant and the three renewals were based on no evidence whatsoever – questionable, fake, fraudulent or any other kind. It was not based on any evidence! It was a fraud upon the Court and therefore upon Carter Page and every American citizen.”

    Susan, I’m sure you know this already, but his wife, Victoria Toensing, is currently representing the whistleblower who is reported to be blowing the top off of the Uranium One scandal, which, from all accounts I have read, could come close to measuring on the Scandal Richter Scale right up there with FISA-Gate and the fix being in for the Hillary email scandal.

    Another invaluable article and in my humble opinion one of the best, as his always are, is the one by Victor Davis Hanson entitled “The Ticking Memo” for all of the usual reasons but for me, as someone who spent most of his life in Courtrooms, is this paragraph about the FISA judge or judges:

    “And who was the FISA judge or judges, and are we to believe that he or they could not have asked a simple question concerning the nature and origins of the dossier? Was he incompetent, biased, or representative of the dangerous tendency of judges to rubber-stamp such FISA requests?”

    I touched on that in my post as it is simply mind-boggling to me as a lawyer who knows what the consequences would be for any lawyer not named Clinton or Obama who deliberately withheld the kind of significant information from a court the FBI people hid from these Judges- not just once, but four times.

    Thanks for your excellent post.

    Sincerely, Jim.

     

    • #42
  13. OccupantCDN Coolidge
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    All those despots of history must be spinning a little harder in hell.

    “You mean you dont actually have to kill a journalist? Just know how to throw a killer cocktail party, and threaten not to invite them?”

    How many lives could have been saved?

    I think everyone gets hit with the Sinclair Lewis quote “When fascism arrives in America it’ll be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross” … I dont think so, I think fascism will arrive in America the same way it arrived in Germany or Italy, promising social justice for the downtrodden.

    • #43
  14. Valiuth Member
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    I don’t know what you @susanquinn or anyone means by “winning”.

    • #44
  15. Susan Quinn Contributor
    Susan Quinn
    @SusanQuinn

    Jim George (View Comment):
    Thanks for your excellent post.

    And thank you for your excellent suggestions, Jim! Now I have my reading to catch up on!

    • #45
  16. EDISONPARKS Member
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    cdor (View Comment):

    EDISONPARKS (View Comment):

    Valiuth (View Comment):

    Susan Quinn: I think the Republicans are finally prepared to fight back. We just need to find a way to get their information out and stop the mainstream media from publishing false information.

    Fighting back is not the same as telling the truth. And that is what gets me about all of these fights, the actual truth seems obscured by both sides in favor of each pushing a narrative that serves their political ends. No one really seems to be fighting for releasing all the information so that the public can judge. Everyone seems interested in releasing the facts that serve their own case.

    We need the FISA warrant application to be released. No more depending on Republicans or Democrats describing the evidence to us. Show us the darn evidence up front and we will judge it for ourselves.

    Direct your ire at Adam Schiff and the (D)’s blocking the gathering and release of all information during the entire House Intel Committee investigation into these matters.

    Here is another clue as to why we’re not getting any information …. the MSM insists on not finding out .. it could damage National Security don’t you know …. a MSM 180 degree change in policy on disclosure of classified information …. that’s a little weird no?

    I know there is politics…and then there is National security…and then there is the citizen’s right to know. But there is also the President of the United States, who has the final say in any and all classification matters. So who cares what Adam Schiff or the NYT or the WAPO wants kept secret. We got the Man and he’s got the power.

    It must be that Trump is hamstrung by the Mueller investigation.

    Anything Trump would do would in terms of declassifying information which may be perceived as exonerating himself would be presented by the MSM as obstructing the Special Council investigation and an attempt by Trump to whitewash his Administrations alleged involvement in Trump/Russia collusion.

    Take the MSM’s narrative with the vilification of the Congressman Nunes and the House Intel oversight investigation and set the “MSM hair on fire” dial to eleven to give yourself some idea of what to expect.

    • #46
  17. Susan Quinn Contributor
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    Valiuth (View Comment):
    I don’t know what you @susanquinn or anyone means by “winning”.

    I don’t know where I used that word, @valiuth. If I did, I take it back. There is no winning in all this mess–for the parties, for the citizens or for the country. I do hope that the Republicans “win” the battle of public opinion–that people will realize that they have been duped by a greedy, lying Democrat party. And yes, I know the Repubs do all that, to0, but I’m talking about the current events.

    • #47
  18. Stad Coolidge
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    Susan Quinn (View Comment):
    It’s called fighting for truth.

    But when we finally get the truth, will anyone do anything with it?  I have my doubts . . .

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  19. EDISONPARKS Member
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    Stad (View Comment):

    Susan Quinn (View Comment):
    It’s called fighting for truth.

    But when we finally get the truth, will anyone do anything with it? I have my doubts . . .

    Most have already received their Obama era death penalty  = a very quiet early retirement or demotion.

    It would be nice to at least hear a … “and don’t you ever misbehave again or you’re gonna really get it!” … instead the suspected wrongdoers are quietly not there anymore ….

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  20. Valiuth Member
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    Susan Quinn (View Comment):

    Valiuth (View Comment):
    I don’t know what you @susanquinn or anyone means by “winning”.

    I don’t know where I used that word, @valiuth. If I did, I take it back. There is no winning in all this mess–for the parties, for the citizens or for the country. I do hope that the Republicans “win” the battle of public opinion–that people will realize that they have been duped by a greedy, lying Democrat party. And yes, I know the Repubs do all that, to0, but I’m talking about the current events.

    But the Republicans seem to be lying as much about current events as the Democrats are. And what I can’t tell is who is lying more. Bad faith arguments and assumptions reign supreme in these discussions. Everyone leaps to conclusions and from there derives further assumptions.

    • #50
  21. EDISONPARKS Member
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    @user_54742

    Valiuth (View Comment):

    Susan Quinn (View Comment):

    Valiuth (View Comment):
    I don’t know what you @susanquinn or anyone means by “winning”.

    I don’t know where I used that word, @valiuth. If I did, I take it back. There is no winning in all this mess–for the parties, for the citizens or for the country. I do hope that the Republicans “win” the battle of public opinion–that people will realize that they have been duped by a greedy, lying Democrat party. And yes, I know the Repubs do all that, to0, but I’m talking about the current events.

    But the Republicans seem to be lying as much about current events as the Democrats are. And what I can’t tell is who is lying more. Bad faith arguments and assumptions reign supreme in these discussions. Everyone leaps to conclusions and from there derives further assumptions.

    Example of an (R) lie please.

    I’m not saying your wrong, but making the statement qualifier “seem to be lying” is not something the reader can assess and then formulate an opinion upon.

    • #51
  22. Valiuth Member
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    The battle for public opinion I think is killing the nation because it is inherently dishonest, because at its heart is the idea that reality is not objective but relativistic. It is all about perception. Moral relativism reigns supreme above all.

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  23. Manny Coolidge
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    Joe and his wife have been around the DC world for a long time.  I’m surprised you’ve never heard of them.

    • #53
  24. EDISONPARKS Member
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    @user_54742

    Valiuth (View Comment):
    The battle for public opinion I think is killing the nation because it is inherently dishonest, because at its heart is the idea that reality is not objective but relativistic. It is all about perception. Moral relativism reigns supreme above all.

    It’s the world we live in and unfortunately the (D)’s invented and own it and  (R)’s suck at it.

    • #54
  25. Stad Coolidge
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    EDISONPARKS (View Comment):

    Stad (View Comment):

    Susan Quinn (View Comment):
    It’s called fighting for truth.

    But when we finally get the truth, will anyone do anything with it? I have my doubts . . .

    Most have already received their Obama era death penalty = a very quiet early retirement or demotion.

    Sad, but true.

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  26. RufusRJones Member
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    Valiuth (View Comment):
    The battle for public opinion I think is killing the nation because it is inherently dishonest, because at its heart is the idea that reality is not objective but relativistic. It is all about perception. Moral relativism reigns supreme above all.

    We steal from each other via government via lies and salesmanship. Motivating voting blocks. That’s our system.

    • #56
  27. Susan Quinn Contributor
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    Valiuth (View Comment):
    But the Republicans seem to be lying as much about current events as the Democrats are.

    Examples?

    • #57
  28. Susan Quinn Contributor
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    Valiuth (View Comment):
    The battle for public opinion I think is killing the nation because it is inherently dishonest, because at its heart is the idea that reality is not objective but relativistic. It is all about perception. Moral relativism reigns supreme above all.

    @valiuth, I do appreciate your idealism and I hate politics, but it is the means by which things get done. If the public does not believe your side, it doesn’t matter how truthful, reputable, and honorable you are. I don’t want to get into an argument about objective reality, but for example, “Beauty is in the eye of the beholder”; if I say a piece of modern art is ugly, and you say it’s beautiful, who’s right? Or if I want to buy something, and I say we can afford it and my husband says we can’t, who’s right? The battle for public opinion has been going on since this nation was founded–even the founders knew they had to do it. And so it is.

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  29. Susan Quinn Contributor
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    Manny (View Comment):
    Joe and his wife have been around the DC world for a long time. I’m surprised you’ve never heard of them.

    I have seen his wife in recent years, but I don’t recall seeing him except for lately.

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  30. Susan Quinn Contributor
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    EDISONPARKS (View Comment):
    It’s the world we live in and unfortunately the (D)’s invented and own it and (R)’s suck at it.

    You answered Valiuth better than I did!

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