Recommended by Ricochet Members Created with Sketch. Jordan Peterson at His Very Best

 

For the past several months I’ve immersed myself into the Jordan Peterson vortex of videos. I’ve lost count on the number of videos I’ve watched; suffice to say that all of them have been time well spent. The video above, “Is There Meaning to Life?” I think is one of the most profound and moving of Peterson’s talks. I’ve shared a number of videos with friends and family. If you haven’t been inclined to watch Peterson before now, you may want to at least step closer to the vortex with this one and then you’ll understand why he’s generated the following that he has.

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  1. Spin Coolidge
    Spin Joined in the first year of Ricochet Ricochet Charter Member

    He looks like a vampire….

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    • January 29, 2018, at 8:12 AM PST
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  2. Franco Member
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    I’m among the many who has recently discovered this guy and binged on the many YouTube videos of his lectures and interviews.

    He is not merely trending, he’s exploding into the mainstream.

    My wife is a psychotherapist of many years, and I have always been something of a student of the human mind and psyche, and to me Peterson is the real deal. (My wife moved from default lefty to right-leaning by listening to hundreds of very different patients for at least 10,000 hours, I had long ago stopped trying to convert her myself )

    He is perhaps the best explainer for conservative ideals than anyone, partly because he remains outside of political ideology – he is taking a detached scientific approach that would be difficult to argue with.

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    • January 29, 2018, at 8:21 AM PST
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  3. Brian Watt Member
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    Spin (View Comment):
    He looks like a vampire….

    Yes, and his voice sounds like Kermit the Frog. Thank you for your astute observation.

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    • January 29, 2018, at 8:24 AM PST
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  4. Brian Watt Member
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    To note…in the video, Peterson meant to reference the 4th movement of Beethoven’s Symphony No. 9, not the 3rd. Just demonstrating that he is human.

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    • January 29, 2018, at 8:57 AM PST
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  5. Mim526 Member

    Brian Watt (View Comment):

    Spin (View Comment):
    He looks like a vampire….

    Yes, and his voice sounds like Kermit the Frog. Thank you for your astute observation.

    His mind is that of a classical liberal, in the truest and best sense of the term, who has devoted hours/years of study to how people think and act. I get the feeling listening to him that his thoughts and the words flowing from them have been years in the making.

    I noticed the RZIM, Ravi Zacharias International Ministries, logo before he even started speaking. RZ is a brilliant, clear thinking Christian apologist. Anything they’re supporting/participating in I’m predisposed to give attention.

    Thanks for sharing the video, @brianwatt.

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    • January 29, 2018, at 9:22 AM PST
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  6. James Gawron Thatcher
    James Gawron Joined in the first year of Ricochet Ricochet Charter Member

    Brian,

    I will repeat what I said about Peterson as this video reconfirms it. First, he is a professional that knows his own field backwards and forwards. He is naturally careful about what he speaks and usually has plenty to back up any position. Second, he goes beyond what the ordinary academic psychologist would do, at least the ordinary would not do it publicly. He fights for the fundamental values of Western Civilization. He must do this in purely psychological terms as that is his field. However, we are in a time when so few are willing to be out front and fight the battle that he comes off as nothing but refreshing. I think for young college-age students especially he is an oasis of sense and integrity. They have been subjected to the absurdities of deconstructionist multi-cultural lunacy. He is a bright hope that good sense and hard academic work will finally be once again recognized as the only legitimate role a university plays. The university accomplishes this role by the free exchange of ideas. To do this you must be unafraid. Peterson is unafraid if nothing else.

    Regards,

    Jim

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    • January 29, 2018, at 9:46 AM PST
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  7. MarciN Member

    I think the reason Jordan Peterson is so successful is that he respects the people he is speaking to or treating. He is describing what has existed in the past and what exists now with the confidence and knowledge that his listeners and patients can decide where in that complex of ideas they want to invest the work of building a life with meaning.

    In other words, he is creating an image that both he and his audience can look at and consider. It is not the typical counselor one-to-one relationship, which always drives people away because there is so much interpersonal pressure in it.

    I don’t play an instrument, but my three kids do. I loved the social dynamic I saw going on in orchestras for kids. Unlike most other school settings, in the orchestras there was no pressure on the students to socialize. The kids could relax because everyone was focused on the conductor or the music on the stand in front of them. I saw more lifelong strong friendships formed in orchestra settings than I saw anywhere else in schools.

    That’s the dynamic that Peterson is constantly creating. He is teaching and trusting us to figure out where to enter the scene he is describing. He is deeply respectful of his audience.

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    • January 29, 2018, at 10:18 AM PST
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  8. Mim526 Member

    MarciN (View Comment):
    I think the reason Jordan Peterson is so successful is that he respects the people he is speaking to or treating. He is describing what has existed and what exists now with the confidence and knowledge that his listeners and patients can decide where in that complex of ideas and ways to live a life they want to invest their life and work.

    In other words, he is creating an image that both he and his audience can look at and consider. It is not the typical counselor dichotomous relationship, which always drives people away.

    I don’t play an instrument, but my three kids do. I loved the social dynamic I saw going on in orchestras for kids. There was no pressure, unlike most other settings for students, to socialize. The kids could relax because everyone was focused on the conductor or the music on the stand in front of them. I saw more lifelong strong friendships formed in orchestra settings than I saw anywhere else in schools.

    That’s the dynamic that Peterson is constantly creating. He is teaching and trusting us to figure out where to enter the scene he is describing. He is deeply respectful of his audience.

    Reminds me of what Peterson said about music around 16:33 in the video: that engaging in music is something many enjoy and a pathway to something meaningful and harmonious in life.

    When music is cut out of childrens’ education in favor of STEM, they miss much more than can be easily quantified or explained.

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    • January 29, 2018, at 10:40 AM PST
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  9. Spin Coolidge
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    Brian Watt (View Comment):

    Spin (View Comment):
    He looks like a vampire….

    Yes, and his voice sounds like Kermit the Frog. Thank you for your astute observation.

    That’s how we know he’s not a vampire.

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    • January 29, 2018, at 10:47 AM PST
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  10. Spin Coolidge
    Spin Joined in the first year of Ricochet Ricochet Charter Member

    Most of what he’s saying isn’t new. It’s just that someone is saying it, and people are listening. Which is good.

    I keep thinking, though, that we are going to find out he once pinched a girl on the behind, and then it’s all gonna go sideways.

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    • January 29, 2018, at 10:49 AM PST
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  11. Misthiocracy got drunk and Member
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    Hmm…

    I dunno.

    It seems to me that the question, “is there meaning to life?” could simply be a different way of saying, “why shouldn’t I kill myself?”

    Looked at in that way, it’s not a stupid question. It’s a cry for help.

    If it’s a cry for help then answering the person by saying, “you simply need to recalibrate your timeframe,” doesn’t seem all that helpful.

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    • January 29, 2018, at 11:38 AM PST
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  12. James Gawron Thatcher
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    Spin (View Comment):
    Most of what he’s saying isn’t new. It’s just that someone is saying it, and people are listening. Which is good.

    I keep thinking, though, that we are going to find out he once pinched a girl on the behind, and then it’s all gonna go sideways.

    Spin,

    Another bum pincher! This I would doubt but who knows. Peterson has admitted when he was very young he was rebellious. I would think it might be more like dunking his female classmate’s pigtails in the Inkwell. I could see an eight-year-old Jordon Peterson as a pigtail dunker. So far we have not had a claim of sexual harassment based on pigtail dunking. However, give it time.

    Regards,

    Jim

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    • January 29, 2018, at 11:45 AM PST
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  13. Brian Watt Member
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    Misthiocracy, Joke Pending (View Comment):
    Hmm…

    I dunno.

    It seems to me that the question, “is there meaning to life?” could simply be a different way of saying, “why shouldn’t I kill myself?”

    Looked at in that way, it’s not a stupid question. It’s a cry for help.

    If it’s a cry for help then answering the person by saying, “you simply need to recalibrate your timeframe,” doesn’t seem all that helpful.

    If you can point to me where in the video Peterson says to “recalibrate your timeframe” that would be enlightening.

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    • January 29, 2018, at 11:52 AM PST
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  14. James Gawron Thatcher
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    Brian Watt (View Comment):

    Misthiocracy, Joke Pending (View Comment):
    Hmm…

    I dunno.

    It seems to me that the question, “is there meaning to life?” could simply be a different way of saying, “why shouldn’t I kill myself?”

    Looked at in that way, it’s not a stupid question. It’s a cry for help.

    If it’s a cry for help then answering the person by saying, “you simply need to recalibrate your timeframe,” doesn’t seem all that helpful.

    If you can point to me where in the video Peterson says to “recalibrate your timeframe” that would be enlightening.

    Mis and Brian,

    I think Mis is confused. Peterson is criticizing the person who was telling someone who was distressed that they shouldn’t worry about it because in a couple billion years nothing will matter anyway. He thinks that is the worst thing you could say to someone who needs help.

    Regards,

    Jim

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    • January 29, 2018, at 12:06 PM PST
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  15. CB Toder aka Mama Toad Member
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    Spin (View Comment):
    Most of what he’s saying isn’t new. It’s just that someone is saying it, and people are listening. Which is good.

    I keep thinking, though, that we are going to find out he once pinched a girl on the behind, and then it’s all gonna go sideways.

    I also have become a Peterson fan grrrl, and in this video, starting around 5:45 mark, he explains, after the interviewer begins attacking him with a picture of him with Pepe the Frog that he expects all this fame and fortune to go south. [Edit: actually those particular comments about that start around 9:18. Sorry. But if you listen to the whole thing it is worth your time!]

    He knows that everyone is combing through everything he’s ever done or said, and if he ever makes a mistake now, he will be hung out to dry.

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    • January 29, 2018, at 12:16 PM PST
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  16. bernai Member
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    First heard him on Andrew Klavans podcast and he is so very genuine and reasoned. In the Video much of his reasoning echoes Chesterston and I absolutely love it. He also brings to mind Dr Berlinski in his matter of fact and reasoned approach. If Yeti is reading – any shot you can get him on the flagship? I would love to hear Peter interview him.

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    • January 29, 2018, at 8:11 PM PST
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  17. Franco Member
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    Spin (View Comment):
    Most of what he’s saying isn’t new. It’s just that someone is saying it, and people are listening. Which is good.

    So, is new better? A strange thing to imply about philosophy, psychology and conservative thought.

    Why the constant naysaying? What’s your issue?

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    • January 30, 2018, at 7:32 AM PST
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  18. RufusRJones Member

    I have personality disorders on both sides of my family tree, so I’ve had to learn a ton about this stuff.

    I am new to Peterson but I really like him. “Tell the truth and take responsibility.”

    I think the best way for people to figure out how to get a grip on themselves is to listen to him and these two researchers #1

    #2

    This book is based on Porges and Schore’s research.

    Basically, you have to have a good philosophy and good people around you at critical points in your life, particularly from the third trimester until you are three years old.

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    • January 30, 2018, at 9:52 AM PST
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  19. Annefy Member

    Spin (View Comment):
    Most of what he’s saying isn’t new. It’s just that someone is saying it, and people are listening. Which is good.

    It’s funny – my husband noted how JP can say stuff that sounds familiar and revelatory at the same time.

    JP was recently asked his opinion on his own popularity and his answer was something like “because I get the archetypes right”. (which is why it sounds familiar I guess)

    While to us what JP is saying might not be “new”, much of his popularity with young men is because to them, it is new. They’re hearing things they’ve never heard before. I have three millennial sons and I know a lot of their peers, and I agree with this. Whether it’s the fault of their parents, their school or society matters not. They’ve been mal served horribly and I am glad JP is there to fill in the gap.

    Another unlikely hero. An obscure professor from Canada who sounds like Kermit and uses the word “bucko”.

    Son #3 was at a concert recently and the lead singer went on some ridiculous anti-Trump rant. My son was texting me at the time; son said “I wanted to tell him to go home and clean his room.”

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    • January 30, 2018, at 10:09 AM PST
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  20. Melissa Praemonitus Member

    As I write this, @Dave Sussman is preparing to interview Jordan Peterson on his terrific podcast, Whiskey Politics. Dave’s very sharp, and his first degree was in psychology, so it’s going to be a great conversation.

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    • January 30, 2018, at 10:10 AM PST
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  21. Jerry Giordano (Arizona Patrio… Member

    Spin (View Comment):
    Most of what he’s saying isn’t new. It’s just that someone is saying it, and people are listening. Which is good.

    What he’s saying is basically political Conservatism and Christian morality. This is not new, but it is new to hear it from a non-Christian. It is almost impossible for a Christian to present this message to non-Christians, because the non-Christians immediately tune it out as irrational religious proselytizing. I think that this is the fundamental explanation for the Dr. P phenomenon.

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    • January 30, 2018, at 10:10 AM PST
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  22. Annefy Member

    Melissa Praemonitus (View Comment):
    As I write this, @Dave Sussman is preparing to interview Jordan Peterson on his terrific podcast, Whiskey Politics. Dave’s very sharp, and his first degree was in psychology, so it’s going to be a great conversation.

    Can. Not. Wait to hear it.

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    • January 30, 2018, at 10:12 AM PST
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  23. Jerry Giordano (Arizona Patrio… Member

    Annefy (View Comment):

    While to us what JP is saying might not be “new”, much of his popularity with young men is because to them, it is new. They’re hearing things they’ve never heard before. I have three millennial sons and I know a lot of their peers, and I agree with this. Whether it’s the fault of their parents, their school or society matters not. They’ve been mal served horribly and I am glad JP is there to fill in the gap.

    My oldest is listening to Dr. P, and he likes it, but it’s nothing new to him. He learned the same things at church, from me, and in the Marine Corps.

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    • January 30, 2018, at 10:13 AM PST
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  24. Annefy Member

    Arizona Patriot (View Comment):

    Annefy (View Comment):

    While to us what JP is saying might not be “new”, much of his popularity with young men is because to them, it is new. They’re hearing things they’ve never heard before. I have three millennial sons and I know a lot of their peers, and I agree with this. Whether it’s the fault of their parents, their school or society matters not. They’ve been mal served horribly and I am glad JP is there to fill in the gap.

    My oldest is listening to Dr. P, and he likes it, but it’s nothing new to him. He learned the same things at church, from me, and in the Marine Corps.

    Same here. But I’d add Boy Scouts.

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    • January 30, 2018, at 10:17 AM PST
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  25. RyanFalcone Member

    So Brian, how clean is your room right now?

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    • January 30, 2018, at 11:19 AM PST
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  26. GFHandle Member

    Terrific. For some reason, I am reminded of Jimmy Stewart in Mr. Smith Goes to Washington.

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    • January 30, 2018, at 11:20 AM PST
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  27. James Gawron Thatcher
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    Melissa Praemonitus (View Comment):
    As I write this, @Dave Sussman is preparing to interview Jordan Peterson on his terrific podcast, Whiskey Politics. Dave’s very sharp, and his first degree was in psychology, so it’s going to be a great conversation.

    Melissa,

    Way cool! Thanks, Melissa.

    Regards,

    Jim

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    • January 30, 2018, at 11:26 AM PST
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  28. Brian Watt Member
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    RyanFalcone (View Comment):
    So Brian, how clean is your room right now?

    Well, pretty clean…but the cat is preventing me from making my bed.

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    • January 30, 2018, at 12:02 PM PST
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  29. Mim526 Member

    Arizona Patriot (View Comment):

    Annefy (View Comment):

    While to us what JP is saying might not be “new”, much of his popularity with young men is because to them, it is new. They’re hearing things they’ve never heard before. I have three millennial sons and I know a lot of their peers, and I agree with this. Whether it’s the fault of their parents, their school or society matters not. They’ve been mal served horribly and I am glad JP is there to fill in the gap.

    My oldest is listening to Dr. P, and he likes it, but it’s nothing new to him. He learned the same things at church, from me, and in the Marine Corps.

    Those with parents who talked, listened, and counseled are blessed and fortunate.

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    • January 30, 2018, at 12:48 PM PST
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  30. Susan Quinn Contributor

    The piece that stood out for me is a Zen tenet. The meaning of life comes from those times when we are fully engaged in a moment–whether we are listening to music, writing an OP, listening to a friend, enjoying a good meal. Those are the things, and more, much more. Especially when we are engaged with and helping others.

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    • January 30, 2018, at 1:13 PM PST
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