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  1. Arahant Member
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    Thanks for sharing this, Zafar.

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  2. Randy Webster Inactive
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    Thanks, Zafar.  Do Muslims have a comparable holy day?

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  3. Zafar Member
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    There are basically two Eids.

    But they also call Mohammad’s birthday Eid Milad, which means festival/feast of the birth.

    (Fun fact: Lebanese Christians use the same words for Christmas.  Which is….logical?)

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  4. Umbra Fractus Inactive
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    Zafar (View Comment):

    (Fun fact: Lebanese Christians use the same words for Christmas. Which is….logical?)

    I remember being told that Arab Christians also address God as, “Allah.”

    Merry Christmas, Zafar.

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  5. Zafar Member
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    Literal translation: Le Dieu

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  6. Kate Braestrup Member
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    Wow. What is that? Is the whole thing a screen, or is there a structure behind it?

    Good story, told by Franciscan Friar Richard Rohr, and I’ll probably get the details wrong, tho’ not the gist: there is an idea in Jewish mysticism that the reason Jews don’t say or write the name of God (represented by the tetragrammaton)  isn’t because they mustn’t but because one can’t. The name of God is the sound of the breath. So when God breathed life into the Ha’adam, God was infusing his creation with his own name. And the first “word” we say when we come into the world is the name of God, and the last thing we say is also the name of God, and in between we all go around saying God’s name over and over… and of course, there is no white or black way to breathe, no Christian or Hindu way to breathe, so the name of God is, appropriately, universal.

    Well, apparently a Sufi mystic told Rorh that there is a similar idea in Islam. “Al” means “the,” and if you add another l, it serves as an intensifier. And the rest is…breath. Ahhh. So the name of God is the breath.

     

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  7. Front Seat Cat Member
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    Lovely Zafar! Thanks for posting it!

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  8. Doctor Robert Member
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    What a great display.  I want that for my church!

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  9. SkipSul Inactive
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    Umbra Fractus (View Comment):

    Zafar (View Comment):

    (Fun fact: Lebanese Christians use the same words for Christmas. Which is….logical?)

    I remember being told that Arab Christians also address God as, “Allah.”

    Merry Christmas, Zafar.

    The Antiochian Orthodox church I’ve been attending lately does keep a couple of lines of the liturgy in Arabic.

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  10. SkipSul Inactive
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    Zafar, thanks so much for sharing this!

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  11. Gary McVey Contributor
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    Great pictures. Thanks, Zafar!

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  12. Stad Coolidge
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    Wow!  Great pics, and thanks for posting them!

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  13. MarciN Member
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    How beautiful. Thank you.

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  14. Joseph Stanko Coolidge
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    Merry Christmas Zafar!

    It would seem quite odd to me to have Christmas season in summer, but I suppose you must be accustomed to it.

     

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  15. George Townsend Inactive
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    Stad (View Comment):
    Wow! Great pics, and thanks for posting them!

    What else need be said? Thanks so much, Zafar!

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  16. Titus Techera Contributor
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    This is great,  Zafar, glad to see you around again!

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  17. Aaron Miller Inactive
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    I had to verify today with an Aussie that they do indeed celebrate Christmas in the summer down there, the seasons being flipped. “Yep, most people go to the beach!”

    It’s just not right.

    But who am I to talk? We don’t get snow either but once per decade.

    Thanks. The fifth image is one of my favorite depictions of the holy family.

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  18. Gary McVey Contributor
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    Snow? Around here, we haven’t had snow since New Year’s Day, 1949.

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  19. Joseph Stanko Coolidge
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    Aaron Miller (View Comment):
    I had to verify today with an Aussie that they do indeed celebrate Christmas in the summer down there, the seasons being flipped. “Yep, most people go to the beach!”

    Festivals involving candles and lights are common in many cultures during the winter months, when the days are short and the sun sets in the afternoon.  It would seem odd to put up an elaborate light display on the longest day of the year.  The lights in Zafar’s photos probably don’t even get switched on until after 8:00 PM.

     

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  20. Larry Koler Inactive
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    Kate Braestrup (View Comment):
    Wow. What is that? Is the whole thing a screen, or is there a structure behind it?

    Good story, told by Franciscan Friar Richard Rohr, and I’ll probably get the details wrong, tho’ not the gist: there is an idea in Jewish mysticism that the reason Jews don’t say or write the name of God (represented by the tetragrammaton) isn’t because they mustn’t but because one can’t. The name of God is the sound of the breath. So when God breathed life into the Ha’adam, God was infusing his creation with his own name. And the first “word” we say when we come into the world is the name of God, and the last thing we say is also the name of God, and in between we all go around saying God’s name over and over… and of course, there is no white or black way to breathe, no Christian or Hindu way to breathe, so the name of God is, appropriately, universal.

    Well, apparently a Sufi mystic told Rorh that there is a similar idea in Islam. “Al” means “the,” and if you add another l, it serves as an intensifier. And the rest is…breath. Ahhh. So the name of God is the breath.

    Hindus teach that it is the breath that ties the soul to the body.

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  21. Larry Koler Inactive
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    Aaron Miller (View Comment):
    The fifth image is one of my favorite depictions of the holy family.

    That’s by Murillo, isn’t it?

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  22. Aaron Miller Inactive
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    Larry Koler (View Comment):

    Aaron Miller (View Comment):
    The fifth image is one of my favorite depictions of the holy family.

    That’s by Murillo, isn’t it?

    Ferruzzi, apparently.

    Bouguereau also did a good one.

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  23. Randy Webster Inactive
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    Aaron Miller (View Comment):

    Larry Koler (View Comment):

    Aaron Miller (View Comment):
    The fifth image is one of my favorite depictions of the holy family.

    That’s by Murillo, isn’t it?

    Ferruzzi, apparently.

    Bouguereau also did a good one.

    I’ve never seen that before.  It’s lovely.  But I don’t understand why no one has both eyes on the same side of her nose.

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  24. JoelB Member
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    What are the last three images?

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  25. Fred Houstan Member
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    Meanwhile, in Rome, how not to project onto a holy building is amply demonstrated.

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  26. Larry Koler Inactive
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    Aaron Miller (View Comment):

    Larry Koler (View Comment):

    Aaron Miller (View Comment):
    The fifth image is one of my favorite depictions of the holy family.

    That’s by Murillo, isn’t it?

    Ferruzzi, apparently.

    Bouguereau also did a good one.

    Thanks.

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  27. Nanda Panjandrum Member
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    Kate Braestrup (View Comment):
    Wow. What is that? Is the whole thing a screen, or is there a structure behind it?

    Good story, told by Franciscan Friar Richard Rohr, and I’ll probably get the details wrong, tho’ not the gist: there is an idea in Jewish mysticism that the reason Jews don’t say or write the name of God (represented by the tetragrammaton) isn’t because they mustn’t but because one can’t. The name of God is the sound of the breath. So when God breathed life into the Ha’adam, God was infusing his creation with his own name. And the first “word” we say when we come into the world is the name of God, and the last thing we say is also the name of God, and in between we all go around saying God’s name over and over… and of course, there is no white or black way to breathe, no Christian or Hindu way to breathe, so the name of God is, appropriately, universal.

    Well, apparently a Sufi mystic told Rorh that there is a similar idea in Islam. “Al” means “the,” and if you add another l, it serves as an intensifier. And the rest is…breath. Ahhh. So the name of God is the breath.

    Lovely, Kate!  A slight quibble: Richard Rohr carries ordination and Franciscan initials, but is very much more a self-help guru/psychologist, a la Werner Erhard, than a priest.  This is not a denigration of his sincerity, but an observation about how much “beyond Jesus” many in the marquee religious communities have traveled in some ways.

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  28. Nanda Panjandrum Member
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    Zafar:  THANK YOU!  You’ve lifted my spirits a great deal closer to Christmas peace and joy; these are awesome and inspiring…Merry Christmas, indeed.

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  29. Mole-eye Inactive
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    What a lovely presentation for the citizens of Sydney!  Thanks so much for sharing it, Zafar!

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