Quote of the Day: Democrats

 

“Why has the Democratic Party become so arrogantly detached from ordinary Americans? Though they claim to speak for the poor and dispossessed, Democrats have increasingly become the party of an upper-middle-class professional elite, top-heavy with journalists, academics and lawyers.”

— Camille Paglia

This is why we got Trump. You want more Trump? Watch the Democrats double down on this type of stupid.

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  1. Saint Augustine Member
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    Yep.  The party of the rich.

    Also the party that bans health insurance and is creepily anti-Muslim.  And the party with a history of racism.

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  2. Arahant Member
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    Back-end Fetch Failed. Why is it always on my best comments when I haven’t been paranoid enough to save them? Yet, this will go through without a problem.

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  3. Arahant Member
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    See! It did. Meanwhile, my other comment is in clocking limbo.

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  4. Arahant Member
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    This is an entry in the Quote of the Day Series. Still two slots left to claim in September. Available to the lowest bidder here.

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  5. Seawriter Contributor
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    Arahant (View Comment):

    Back-end Fetch Failed. Why is it always on my best comments when I haven’t been paranoid enough to save them? Yet, this will go through without a problem.

    When you get that, hit the back arrow to return to the previous page. Then resubmit the comment. If you go back, the comment is usually preserved. (I discovered that after getting a back-end fetch failed on a 350 word comment.)

    Seawriter

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  6. Arahant Member
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    Seawriter (View Comment):
    If you go back, the comment is usually preserved.

    It was not in this case.

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  7. Arahant Member
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    Seawriter: This is why we got Trump. You want more Trump? Watch the Democrats double down on this type of stupid.

    I’ll try to recreate it.

    This is exactly why Trump. Trump is no kind of conservative. We all know that. So, why did he leave the Democratic Party? He didn’t. It left him. The Democrats marginalized him and a lot of people with similar attitudes. He did not win through Republican, and certainly not through conservative, votes. He won with blue-collar Democrats who had been marginalized out of the Democrat party and followed him to vote Republican.

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  8. Vectorman Inactive
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    Saint Augustine (View Comment):
    Yep. The party of the rich.

    Also the party that bans health insurance and is creepily anti-Muslim. And the party with a history of racism.

    Anti-Muslim?  No, they want more Muslim immigrants.

    Anti-American? Yes!

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  9. Saint Augustine Member
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    Vectorman (View Comment):

    Saint Augustine (View Comment):
    Yep. The party of the rich.

    Also the party that bans health insurance and is creepily anti-Muslim. And the party with a history of racism.

    Anti-Muslim? No, they want more Muslim immigrants.

    Anti-American? Yes!

    I have my response all typed up already!  I mainly keep it around to explain things to liberals.  It’s in two parts, and will be in the next two comments.

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  10. Saint Augustine Member
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    The General Idea

    Now consider the case of Al and Bob.

    Al tweets like a drunken college freshman about his idea.  His idea is that America should temporarily ban Islamic immigrants until Congress sets up some vetting procedures so we can be at least reasonably confident we aren’t bringing in ISIS terrorists posing as refugees.

    Bob disagrees.  He thinks we should welcome all Muslims to America and instead just ban the practice of their faith on Saturdays, Sundays, Mondays, Tuesdays, Wednesdays, and Thursdays.  He’s just spent the last 8 or so years fighting hard to force Islamic universities and hospitals to pay for abortions and birth control, confess that some biological males are women, and recognize same-sex marriages.

    Bob’s chosen successor, Charlene, has said that Muslims will have to change their theology to accommodate same-sex marriage, abortion, birth control, and transgenderism.  Bob agrees.  He thinks, for example, that any version of Islam that disapprove of homosexual behavior is unjust, irrational, and backward and should either change or be banned (except on Fridays).

    Bob thinks religious liberty and the original meaning of the Constitution are less important than full cooperation and participation with every wave of the sexual revolution by Islamic businessmen and charities.  He is committed to doing whatever he can to make sure the Supreme Court helps.

    Now which of the two is the real anti-Islamic bigot–Al or Bob?

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  11. Saint Augustine Member
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    The Basic Facts Behind This Analysis

    First, remember Hobby Lobby. That’s the Obama administration trying to regulate away liberty to do business in a manner consistent with a theology that will not support abortion or birth control.

    Second, the bakers and florists. That’s a cultural movement and sometimes state-level legislation to p re vent business practices consistent with any theology that won’t cooperate with same-sex marriage.

    Third, there’s the Obama administration trangsenderism mandate. If memory serves,  this is a regulation applicable to all educational institutions taking federal funds. And that includes federal scholarship money for students. This prevents religious education consistent with any theology that won’t cooperate with the transgenderism agenda.

    Fourth, there’s the Little Sisters of the Poor case. That’s federal regulation to prevent charitable work consistent with any theology that won’t cooperate with birth control.

    Fifth, try visiting Beckett Fund site to look up HHS mandate cases. Federal regulation to prevent education consistent with any theology that won’t cooperate with birth control and abortifacient drugs.

    Sixth, Obergefell is a 14-th Amendment thing. It opens up to federal legal repression any university that operates according to a theology inconsistent with same-sex marriage. Try Googling “it is going to be an issue Obergefell.”

    Seventh, note that Hillary is part of the political-cultural movement to all these things and swears allegiance to the whole thing.

    Eighth, note that religions do education and charity work as part of the exercise of religion.

    Ninth, note that the Left always sets aside houses of worship as legitimate exceptions to its requirements that religious activities cooperate with each wave of the sexual revolution.

    Tenth, note that from this it follows that their new legal theory is that only private worship practices deserve to be free–not the exercise of religion on weekdays.

    Eleventh, note that Hillary has actually said that theologies will need to change to accommodate the sexual revolution.

    Twelfth, note that she applies anti-originalist and pro-Roe and pro-Obergefell litmus tests on judicial nominees.

    Thirteenth, Islamic theology is incompatible with same-sex marriage, and at least some strands of it are inconsistent with birth control and abortion and transgenderism.

    An Islamic university or an Agha Khan hospital freely exercising Islamic religion: banned in Hillary’s America.

    Fourteenth, remember the Leftist requirement that adoption agencies match kids with same-sex couples. Hillary’s all over that one.  Bear in mind MA parentlessness is an epic tragedy these days. B/c the Leftist sexual revolutionary bigots drove the Catholic adoption agencies out of the state.

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  12. AchillesLastand Member
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    Seawriter:

    Why has the Democratic Party become so arrogantly detached from ordinary Americans? Though they claim to speak for the poor and dispossessed, Democrats have increasingly become the party of an upper-middle-class professional elite, top-heavy with journalists, academics and lawyers.

    Camille Paglia

    This is why we got Trump. You want more Trump? Watch the Democrats double down on this type of stupid.

    Seawriter

    I love Camille Paglia.

    I know, that sounds strange coming from a straight white married religious conservative male, but she is always a breath of fresh air in our increasingly stifling and stultifying public discourse. Her diatribes make her persona non grata on the left as you might imagine, but their loss is our gain.

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  13. Seawriter Contributor
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    AchillesLastand (View Comment):
    I love Camille Paglia.

    I know, that sounds strange coming from a straight white married religious conservative male, but she is always a breath of fresh air in our increasingly stifling and stultifying public discourse. Her diatribes make her persona non grata on the left as you might imagine, but their loss is our gain.

    You don’t have to agree with someone to learn from them. Or to enjoy their writing, especially when they are correct. Paglia is of of the few lefties I still respect.

    Seawriter

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  14. Quake Voter Inactive
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    Saint Augustine (View Comment):
    Now which of the two is the real anti-Islamic bigot–Al or Bob?

    Augustine, I think you’ve given us a very intelligent, carefully detailed game plan that leftists are using to attack Christianity.

    But can you point to any Muslim mosques, charities, social welfare agencies, advocacy groups or schools which have been attacked, or even pressed, by leftists?  Not here in the US.  Not across Western Europe, where Christians often cower before government mandates.

    I’d suggest that most “Als” don’t limit their opposition to Muslim immigration into the US to the seven Mad Max Mohammedan landscapes identified by the Obama administration.  They (and I) oppose any immigration into the US of any adherents of sharia law and the political, cultural and military doctrines of Islam which are violently antithetical to our Declaration and Constitution.

    Remember this gathering before key Labour politicians one week before the 2015 election:

    Remember the outrage at this video release the week of the Memories Pizza witch hunt.

    None of the Democratic Alinsky tactics you detailed so well will ever be targeted on Muslims.

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  15. DrewInWisconsin Member
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    Seawriter:

    “Why has the Democratic Party become so arrogantly detached from ordinary Americans? Though they claim to speak for the poor and dispossessed, Democrats have increasingly become the party of an upper-middle-class professional elite, top-heavy with journalists, academics and lawyers.”

    — Camille Paglia

    This is why we got Trump. You want more Trump? Watch the Democrats double down on this type of stupid.

    It’s not just Democrats . . .

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  16. Seawriter Contributor
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    DrewInWisconsin (View Comment):
    It’s not just Democrats . . .

    There are other kinds of stupid for non-Democrats.

    Seawriter

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  17. Taras Coolidge
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    Saint Augustine & Quake Voter:   Progressive practice is attack Christianity; ignore Judaism; subsidize Islam.

    Thus we have the curious spectacle of gays campaigning to admit more people who want to kill gays; feminists fighting to let in more people who subjugate and mutilate women; and secularists opening the door to more creationists!  (According to skeptics, Islamic creationism is the only growth area of that movement.)

    Partly this is because progressives are afraid of Muslims but not of Christians; remember the Islamic death sentence (fatwa) pronounced against playwright Terrence McNally for presenting a gay Jesus.  (Significantly, Wikipedia tries to bury the event in the middle of a long article about McNally, and never explicitly states that the group that pronounced the fatwa was Muslim.)

    Partly it’s because in the progressive victimization hierarchy Christians are supposed to be the aggressors and Muslims, the victims.

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  18. Quake Voter Inactive
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    Taras (View Comment):
    Saint Augustine & Quake Voter: Progressive practice is attack Christianity; ignore Judaism; subsidize Islam.

    I’d replace “ignore Judaism” with “assault Israel and ignore attacks on Jews”.

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  19. Taras Coolidge
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    @Quake Voter:  Quite right; in some respects progressives hate Israel even more than they hate the United States.

    To be precise, they “ignore attacks on Jews” because rarely can the attackers be presented as anything but Muslims — and that would encourage “Islamophobia”.

    In popular entertainment, Christians are relentlessly attacked and derided.  The Christian character in a group is stupid and weird and out of step.  Ministers and priests are routinely presented as criminals and perverts.  It’s quite unusual to see a rabbi treated that way.  They can be glad of the neglect — for now …

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  20. Saint Augustine Member
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    Quake Voter and Taras, what you are saying is mostly or even entirely true.

    It may mean that the Left is creepily anti-Muslim and doesn’t know it.

    Alternatively, it could mean that they don’t mean much of what they say, and they don’t really believe in the sexual revolution or various other of their ideals.

    Whatever the case may be, it is clear that the Democrats have committed themselves to policies and principles which are anti-Muslim.

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  21. Brian Wolf Inactive
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    Saint Augustine (View Comment):
    Yep. The party of the rich.

    Also the party that bans health insurance and is creepily anti-Muslim. And the party with a history of racism.

    Saint Augustine!  Missed you around here…  @saintaugustine

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  22. Saint Augustine Member
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    Brian Wolf (View Comment):

    Saint Augustine (View Comment):
    Yep. The party of the rich.

    Also the party that bans health insurance and is creepily anti-Muslim. And the party with a history of racism.

    Saint Augustine! Missed you around here… @saintaugustine

    Thanks!

    Just been so busy.  Between the move from Pakistan to Texas and the move from Texas to Hong Kong.  Kids.  Parents.  Siblings.  A grandmother at death’s door.  (She had to be dragged back a bit from it; she preferred Heaven!)  Harvey (the big jerk) almost flooding my parents’ house, and stranding us in Friendswood, TX, for awhile.  A storage unit to clear out, an Augustine book to write!  And more.

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  23. JosePluma Coolidge
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    Arahant (View Comment):

    Back-end Fetch Failed. Why is it always on my best comments when I haven’t been paranoid enough to save them? Yet, this will go through without a problem.

    I always compose in Word, then copy and paste.  I’ve never had this happen.

     

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  24. Arahant Member
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    JosePluma (View Comment):
    I always compose in Word, then copy and paste. I’ve never had this happen.

    For conversation starters? Or even for mere comments? Because this was just a comment I was talking about.

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  25. JosePluma Coolidge
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    Arahant (View Comment):

    JosePluma (View Comment):
    I always compose in Word, then copy and paste. I’ve never had this happen.

    For conversation starters? Or even for mere comments? Because this was just a comment I was talking about.

    If it’s a long one, yes.  Something like this, no.

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  26. Arahant Member
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    JosePluma (View Comment):
    If it’s a long one, yes. Something like this, no.

    I seldom start out intending a long comment. :D

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