Breaking: Trump, Schumer, Pelosi Make DACA Deal

 

Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer and House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi had dinner at the White House Wednesday night. Upon its conclusion, they announced that they have reached an agreement with the President to “enshrine the protections of DACA into law.” What isn’t included in the agreement? The wall:

We had a very productive meeting at the White House with the President. The discussion focused on DACA. We agreed to enshrine the protections of DACA into law quickly, and to work out a package of border security, excluding the wall, that’s acceptable to both sides.

Update: The White House responds.

Update II: POTUS responds.

 

 

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  1. Paul Dougherty Member
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    Fred Cole (View Comment):

    Columbo (View Comment):

    Well that settles it then.

    After all, if there’s one thing Donald Trump can be relied on for, it’s to tell the truth.

    (In a majestic Yul Brenner voice)

    “So it has been tweeted…. so let it be done!”

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  2. BD1 Member
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    The poor, oppressed open-borders right.  It briefly looked like they wouldn’t get their way for the first time in decades.

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  3. Hoyacon Member
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    Jamie Lockett (View Comment):

    [See Tracinski tweets above, which did not reproduce]

    One benefit of this is that it pushed me to actually see who this guy is.  The downside is that I learned that something this clueless and petulant came from a “senior editor” at a publication I respect, The Federalist.  I particularly like how all Trump partisans are lumped together in the same light, and therefore deserving of retribution from their betters.

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  4. Miffed White Male Member
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    The Whether Man (View Comment):
    If DACA is made into a legislative action, then changes from work permits to green cards to citizenship would also require legislative action. I don’t see it sliding that easily and naturally from one thing to something else entirely.

    Non-citizens aren’t allowed to vote.  (Yes, I know…)

    How long will it take for the pressure groups to start up – “It’s not fair – they pay taxes, they follow the rules, why shouldn’t they have a say?  They be allowed to be citizens.”

    I’d predict less than two years after they’re “legalized”.

     

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  5. Columbo Inactive
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    Hoyacon (View Comment):

    Jamie Lockett (View Comment):

    [See Tracinski tweets above, which did not reproduce]

    One benefit of this is that it pushed me to actually see who this guy is. The downside is that I learned that something this clueless and petulant came from a “senior editor” at a publication I respect, The Federalist. I particularly like how all Trump partisans are lumped together in the same light, and therefore deserving of retribution from their betters.

    And the corollary, don’t you ever lump them together as NeverTrumps or I’m[Okay]WithHillarys. And we must quit reminding them of how clueless they were last June-November. That’s old news. Can’t we just move on?

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  6. Jamie Lockett Member
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    Columbo (View Comment):

    Hoyacon (View Comment):

    Jamie Lockett (View Comment):

    [See Tracinski tweets above, which did not reproduce]

    One benefit of this is that it pushed me to actually see who this guy is. The downside is that I learned that something this clueless and petulant came from a “senior editor” at a publication I respect, The Federalist. I particularly like how all Trump partisans are lumped together in the same light, and therefore deserving of retribution from their betters.

    And the corollary, don’t you ever lump them together as NeverTrumps or I’m[Okay]WithHillarys. And we must quit reminding them of how clueless they were last June-November. That’s old news. Can’t we just move on?

    Maybe if this hadn’t been done before, during and after the election these current divides wouldn’t exist.

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  7. Postmodern Hoplite Coolidge
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    Max Ledoux (View Comment):
    Let’s start treating teacher’s summer vacation as taxable income.

    @max – For the record, I am one public schoolteacher who has NEVER claimed to be underpaid (although sometimes I do grumble about being under-appreciated for putting up with the bull-shtick put out by school administrators). I have been known to gently chide my fellow teachers when they start to wax eloquent on the “I should be paid more!” theme.

    However, I am fully taxed on all of my salary. I am paid for a 185-day contract. The fact that the district distributes it in twelve monthly pro-rated payments (deducting all specified federal, state and local taxes) is not something I’m given a choice about. I’m not being paid in the summer time for not working, rather I’m being paid for work I’ve already done. I draw no extra salary for Federal holidays, and receive no unearned compensation for vacation.

    Just sayin’…

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  8. Mike LaRoche Inactive
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    Guruforhire (View Comment):
    This thread is nothing but bad faith and trolling.

    That pretty well describes much of Ricochet for the past two years.

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  9. Lois Lane Coolidge
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    The Whether Man (View Comment):

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    While I am certainly sympathetic to people in this program, I think the concern is that DACA will eventually change from work permits to green cards to citizenship. Either way, DAPA seems to have already been built on top of DACA, and doesn’t DAPA thereby grant a kind of status based on nothing more than chain relationship?

    DAPA never took effect, though – state sued, got an injunction, the Supreme Court split and ended up upholding the injunction, and then Trump announced he was rescinding it (I assume he followed through and actually did?). If DACA is made into a legislative action, then changes from work permits to green cards to citizenship would also require legislative action. I don’t see it sliding that easily and naturally from one thing to something else entirely.

    I would be fine with DACA and DAPA if we abandoned the overall weird family sponsorship system we have, which I find ridiculous, increase immigration numbers based on needed skill sets, and put into place E-Verify, no wall required.

    The family preferences had good historical roots, and made a lot of sense – they also ensured that new migrants coming into the country had a support network of sponsors that promised to be financially responsible for them so that they would not become public charges. There’s an argument to be made that it is no longer necessary, or should take a different form, but when national visas were limited by quota, it was a reasonably good way to determine who got priority. Now that we don’t use national origins quotas, it’s reasonable to shift to a new system, though I imagine any points system would ultimately give some (perhaps small) credit for having close family already in the US.

    I know the history of immigration policy.  I am not a big immigration hawk, but I don’t think the current system suits the current needs of the country.  I think family chains are no longer useful, though I’d be fine with some credit in the points column–which requires many more points per the current labor needs–if the system was shifted.

    With the DACA/DAPA thing, I think there’s just a lack of trust…  When the second was proposed it was like… what?  How can that be on the table?

    There is some poison in the well.  That’s what I mean.

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  10. Manny Coolidge
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    Kevin Schulte (View Comment):

    Bombgineer (View Comment):
    The question on my mind is, did Paul Ryan and Mitch McConnell ever think their loyalty would be reciprocated? And if so, why?

    Loyalty to who. Their pay masters. Phoooie on them

    You nailed it the other day Kevin.  In answer to the question of the dayWill Congress pass DACA as it was under Obama, pass some form of DACA-lite, or pass nothing at all? you replied:

    Kevin Schulte

    Hnmmmmm…….

    Republicans (chamber of commerce) want cheep labor.

    Dem’s want cheep votes.

    It’s for the children.

    Not a tough one. Just wondering if they will make me clean out the spare bedroom for two of them.

    You said you were spot on then, and no question in my mind you will be proven right.

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  11. Jamie Lockett Member
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    Moderator Note:

    Needless shoving match

    [redacted]

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  12. Mike LaRoche Inactive
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    Moderator Note:

    more of the shoving match

    [redacted]

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  13. Jamie Lockett Member
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    Moderator Note:

    OK, we done now? Can we move on?

    [redacted]

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