Breaking: Trump, Schumer, Pelosi Make DACA Deal

 

Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer and House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi had dinner at the White House Wednesday night. Upon its conclusion, they announced that they have reached an agreement with the President to “enshrine the protections of DACA into law.” What isn’t included in the agreement? The wall:

We had a very productive meeting at the White House with the President. The discussion focused on DACA. We agreed to enshrine the protections of DACA into law quickly, and to work out a package of border security, excluding the wall, that’s acceptable to both sides.

Update: The White House responds.

Update II: POTUS responds.

 

 

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  1. BD1 Member
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    Nothing in this deal prevents Trump from begging Congress for border wall funding which they will never give him.

    • #31
  2. Hoyacon Member
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    Fred Cole (View Comment):

    Fake John/Jane Galt (View Comment):
    with fiscal conservative leanings.

    I’m not sure a guy who has lost a billion dollars of other ppl’s money, had multiple bankruptcies, and plates his fixtures in gold could fairly be described as having “fiscal conservative leanings.”

    I think we get that attempting to be nuanced by using a word like ” leanings” might be lost on those with bash-Trump-at-every-opportunity leanings.

    • #32
  3. Salvatore Padula Inactive
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    Mike LaRoche (View Comment):

    EJHill (View Comment):
    Marc Short, the White House Legisative Director says the press release from the Minority is misleading. POTUS is open to clean bills for both DACA fix and wall funding and that no deal has been reached.

    [Redacted.]

    I think it’s interesting that the White House is saying the report is “misleading.”  Misleading is a term that almost always means something that is factually accurate, but presented in a way you don’t like.  If something isn’t true you at the very least call it inaccurate.  But I’m more than happy to agree that it’s possible Trump didn’t agree to what is claimed.  We’ll find out soon enough.

    • #33
  4. Max Ledoux Coolidge
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    The King Prawn (View Comment):

    Max Ledoux (View Comment):

    The King Prawn (View Comment):

    Max Ledoux (View Comment):
    Alternate headline: “Pelosi and Schumer Make Deal with Literally Hitler.”

    So we’re progressing according to Scott Adams’ prediction that by the end of the year people will say that Trump is competent and getting democrat things done.

    FIFY.

    See the update to the OP.

    It was there when I commented.

    OK, then what are you saying.

    • #34
  5. Ian Mullican Inactive
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    James Lileks (View Comment):
    Taxes will be the next Trump / Schumer / Pelosi product, one suspects:

    “He was very explicit in saying that there would be no tax cut in this package for the wealthy,” said Rep. Peter Welch (D-Vt.), referring to a pledge by Trump on Wednesday that would mark a notable departure from his previous proposals. “At one point, he said they may have to pay a little more.”

    A few more notable departures, and we may see some Strange New Respect and Growing in Office think-pieces in the WaPo and NYT.

    It would be nice to see him get something conservative in as well?  I was very optimistic about tax cuts, but if he’s already conceding ground I think we can kiss anything impactful to us everyday blokes goodbye.

    • #35
  6. JcTPatriot Member
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    Moderator Note:

    Attacking Ricochet staff.

    Hoyacon (View Comment):
    OK, they “reached an agreement.” Specifics, please.

    There are none, don’t hold your breath waiting for some. You can’t “strike a deal” with the Minority Party. The Democrats saw the last fake “deal” drive a pretty good wedge between the GOP and Trump, and so they are writing these press releases with no substance, but just enough proper wording to hammer that wedge and widen the gap. [Redacted.]

    • #36
  7. Mike LaRoche Inactive
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    Salvatore Padula (View Comment):

    Mike LaRoche (View Comment):

    EJHill (View Comment):
    Marc Short, the White House Legisative Director says the press release from the Minority is misleading. POTUS is open to clean bills for both DACA fix and wall funding and that no deal has been reached.

    [Redacted.]

    I think it’s interesting that the White House is saying the report is “misleading.” Miss leading is a term that almost always means something that is factually accurate, but presented in a way you don’t like. If something isn’t true you at the very least call it inaccurate. But I’m more than happy to agree that it’s possible Trump didn’t agree to what is claimed. We’ll find out soon enough.

    Yes, indeed we will.

    • #37
  8. JcTPatriot Member
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    JcTPatriot (View Comment):

    Hoyacon (View Comment):
    OK, they “reached an agreement.” Specifics, please.

    There are none, don’t hold your breath waiting for some. You can’t “strike a deal” with the Minority Party. The Democrats saw the last fake “deal” drive a pretty good wedge between the GOP and Trump, and so they are writing these press releases with no substance, but just enough proper wording to hammer that wedge and widen the gap. [Redacted.]

    Sorry. Slipped up there. It won’t happen again.

    • #38
  9. Quake Voter Inactive
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    Judging by the Twitter reactions of Trump’s fan base (even Hannity), Trump may wish to have Melisandre around the White House over the next few days.

    Won’t be the first (and far from the best) politician to make defining mistakes under the influence of immigration romanticism.

    I don’t recall his coming down the escalator, making uncompromising remarks about full expensing and repatriation brackets, and then rocketing to the front of the race. But memory is fickle.

    • #39
  10. Paul Dougherty Member
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    BD1 (View Comment):
    Nothing in this deal prevents Trump from begging Congress for border wall funding which they will never give him.

    Mexico. Mexico is funding the wall. Congress has no purse stake in it. It will be all Mexico.

    • #40
  11. James Lileks Contributor
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    Ian Mullican (View Comment):
    I was very optimistic about tax cuts, but if he’s already conceding ground I think we can kiss anything impactful to us everyday blokes goodbye.

    We’ll see. Tax hikes on The Wealthy – defined by the Left as anyone who makes more than an elementary school teacher – are bad for any number of everyday blokes who make or do things the upper brackets consume. But if someone convinced President Trump that hiking taxes on The Rich or levying a surcharge on their property to pay for Infrastructure  would be described by the NYT and WaPo as an example of his dealmaking abilities – the press equivalent of good ratings –  it’s within the realm of possibility that he’d agree.

    Your perspective on the matter depends on whether you think he is primarily motivated by advancing specific conservative policies, or being seen as the successful Dealmaker. Whether he’d rather see the headline Trump Bill Passes over Tax Overhaul Signed; Critics Assail “Inequalities.” 

    • #41
  12. Max Ledoux Coolidge
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    James Lileks (View Comment):
    We’ll see. Tax hikes on The Wealthy – defined by the Left as anyone who makes more than an elementary school teacher – are bad for any number of everyday blokes who make or do things the upper brackets consume.

    Let’s start treating teacher’s summer vacation as taxable income.

    • #42
  13. OmegaPaladin Moderator
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    It doesn’t matter.  We don’t have a republican party, we have Trump, Democrats, and people who just sit around and do nothing but absorb money.

    If our current GOP legislators were replaced by worms, would it actually change anything?  It’s just another scam to keep them in power.  Why do we even care who is in Congress?  The democrats are the only people who actually accomplish anything there.  Republican congressmen sell themself out like the cheapest prostitutes, fainting at the thought of any controversy.

    I’m not becoming a libertarian, that’s a sure-fire loser.  Anyway, I believe its political doctrine is now just  get so stoned that you don’t notice the jihadists cut your throat.

    Hopefully our kakistocratic political class will suffer grisly, agonizing fates in the eventual apocalypse.

    • #43
  14. Bob W Member
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    It was a foregone conclusion that dreamers would never be deported. A congress that can’t repeal pre existing conditions would never let that happen. Looks too mean. So Trump really didn’t give anything up.

    • #44
  15. Guruforhire Inactive
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    I want to know more about the deal, and there had better be upside or I will be pissed.

    He always said he was going to cut deals, but he said those deals would be good deals.

    • #45
  16. John Hanson Coolidge
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    EJHill (View Comment):
    I don’t believe the minority leaders have the votes to agree on anything. They have to deliver GOP votes – votes that Ryan and McConnell have been unable to deliver.

    But we mustn’t let those kind of facts interfere with our narrative.

    That is true, but with only a few squish defectors, (only three in the Senate) the Dems can get stuff passed.  Likely there are enough squishy R seats in the house to get the 24 or so they need there since the Rs have never been unanimous on immigration anyway.   Rs need what they have never demonstrated, party loyalty on issue votes.

    • #46
  17. ToryWarWriter Coolidge
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    Every word out of Pelosis and Schumers mouth is a lie including ‘and’ and ‘the’.

    Why do we suddenly believe them now?

    Lets wait for details before we panic eh.

    • #47
  18. Percival Thatcher
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    EJHill (View Comment):
    Marc Short, the White House Legisative Director says the press release from the Minority is misleading. POTUS is open to clean bills for both DACA fix and wall funding and that no deal has been reached.

    Democrats telling stretchers?

    How unlikely is that?

    • #48
  19. The Whether Man Inactive
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    Quake Voter (View Comment):

    Max Ledoux (View Comment):

    Quake Voter (View Comment):
    Well EJ they had the votes on the debt limit/spending deal with the House and Senate leadership bitterly opposed.

    That passed the Senate with 80 votes and the House with, I think, 316 votes. It was hugely bipartisan.

    But was it a hugely bipartisan result or a hugely bipartisan vote? Is it a positive sign that the GOP can be rolled that easily?

    DACA approval without rock-solid restrictions against chain migration and a national E-Verify program and with a pathway to citizenship at the front of the line is Bush-league bargaining. We’ll see.

    I’m betting on Bush-league.

    DACA as it stands now does not necessarily facilitate chain migration and is not a path to citizenship, so it is certainly possible to keep the program and not give in on these issues.

    I’d like to see DACA get preserved legally through legislative action, but I do not and will never trust Pelosi and Schumer more than McConnell and Ryan, and I can’t see anything to get excited about in a Republican president bypassing Republican leadership to work primarily with the Dems.

    • #49
  20. Fred Cole Inactive
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    Hoyacon (View Comment):

    Fred Cole (View Comment):

    Fake John/Jane Galt (View Comment):
    with fiscal conservative leanings.

    I’m not sure a guy who has lost a billion dollars of other ppl’s money, had multiple bankruptcies, and plates his fixtures in gold could fairly be described as having “fiscal conservative leanings.”

    I think we get that attempting to be nuanced by using a word like ” leanings” might be lost on those with bash-Trump-at-every-opportunity leanings.

    In order to be said to have leanings, ones must actually occasionally lean.

    • #50
  21. Fred Cole Inactive
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    ToryWarWriter (View Comment):
    Every word out of Pelosis and Schumers mouth is a lie including ‘and’ and ‘the’.

    Then they’re in good company with the President.

    • #51
  22. Columbo Inactive
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    JcTPatriot (View Comment):

    Max Ledoux (View Comment):
    Alternate headline: “Pelosi and Schumer Make Deal with Literally Hitler.”

    So we’re progressing according to Scott Adams’ prediction that by the end of the year people will say that Trump is competent and getting things done.

    Great alternate. I am starting to realize that Trump literally has no choice in dealing with the Leftists because the Right in Congress has not been on speaking terms with the Left in many years, and with McCain, Murkowski, and Collins preventing any progress in the GOP, the GOP leadership cannot accomplish anything. Literally everything the GOP tries to get passed has to pass through the ‘MMC’ filter, and those three jerks aren’t allowing anything to pass. It reminds me of the years with Reid running the Senate and nothing the House did ever made it even to the floor of the Senate.

    Maybe we need EJ to make a “You Shall Not Pass” Meme except with McCain instead of Gandalf.

    Indeed. And this is the face of McQueeg to use ……………….

    • #52
  23. Columbo Inactive
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    • #53
  24. Lois Lane Coolidge
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    The Whether Man (View Comment):

    Quake Voter (View Comment):

    Max Ledoux (View Comment):

    Quake Voter (View Comment):
    Well EJ they had the votes on the debt limit/spending deal with the House and Senate leadership bitterly opposed.

    That passed the Senate with 80 votes and the House with, I think, 316 votes. It was hugely bipartisan.

    But was it a hugely bipartisan result or a hugely bipartisan vote? Is it a positive sign that the GOP can be rolled that easily?

    DACA approval without rock-solid restrictions against chain migration and a national E-Verify program and with a pathway to citizenship at the front of the line is Bush-league bargaining. We’ll see.

    I’m betting on Bush-league.

    DACA as it stands now does not necessarily facilitate chain migration and is not a path to citizenship, so it is certainly possible to keep the program and not give in on these issues.

    I’d like to see DACA get preserved legally through legislative action, but I do not and will never trust Pelosi and Schumer more than McConnell and Ryan, and I can’t see anything to get excited about in a Republican president bypassing Republican leadership to work primarily with the Dems.

    While I am certainly sympathetic to people in this program, I think the concern is that DACA will eventually change from work permits to green cards to citizenship.  Either way, DAPA seems to have already been built on top of DACA, and doesn’t DAPA thereby grant a kind of status based on nothing more than chain relationship?

    I would be fine with DACA and DAPA if we abandoned the overall weird family sponsorship system we have, which I find ridiculous, increase immigration numbers based on needed skill sets, and put into place E-Verify, no wall required.

    For those things–especially moving to a points system–I would even be fine with giving the current 800,000 DACA enrollees citizenship.   That particular amnesty is a fair price, I think, for those sweeping changes, and I’m pretty pro-immigration in general.

    If Donald Trump is able to make that deal, then I will applaud him.  I think those results would force me to change my opinion about his actual abilities.

    But I don’t trust much “in Trump,” and Schumer, Nancy says, “speaks New York,” so I guess I’m pretty skeptical about how this will all shake out, especially since I can’t see how actually fixing the immigration system for the country helps Democrats politically.  I am much too cynical about both parties now to still think much of any of it is motivated by the desire to actually make good policy.

    • #54
  25. Kozak Member
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    Uhh, not so fast…..

     

    President Trump tweeted that ‘no deal’ was made on DACA despite top House and Senate Democrats saying they have reached and agreement.

    The President tweeted just after 6 a.m. Thursday.

    His full tweet said:

    “No deal was made last night on DACA. Massive border security would have to be agreed to in exchange for consent. Would be subject to vote.”

    • #55
  26. Lois Lane Coolidge
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    Kozak (View Comment):
    Uhh, not so fast…..

    President Trump tweeted that ‘no deal’ was made on DACA despite top House and Senate Democrats saying they have reached and agreement.

    The President tweeted just after 6 a.m. Thursday.

    His full tweet said:

    “No deal was made last night on DACA. Massive border security would have to be agreed to in exchange for consent. Would be subject to vote.”

    While I have no problem with border security, I would rather he look at internal changes to our immigration laws that I think would impact the overall system in a much more long term and meaningful way.  That’s better policy than politics.

    But who knows what was said?  What handshakes were made?

    All of us here know exactly nothing, which is probably where the Republican leaders stand as well, and that’s kinda strange, too.

    • #56
  27. Columbo Inactive
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    Kozak (View Comment):
    Uhh, not so fast…..

    President Trump tweeted that ‘no deal’ was made on DACA despite top House and Senate Democrats saying they have reached and agreement.

    The President tweeted just after 6 a.m. Thursday.

    His full tweet said:

    “No deal was made last night on DACA. Massive border security would have to be agreed to in exchange for consent. Would be subject to vote.”

    NOTE: Update II in the OP, occurred after comments #53 and #55. Carry on.

    • #57
  28. Tony Inactive
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    I predict today will be very hilarious.

    • #58
  29. Concretevol Thatcher
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    Jamie Lockett (View Comment):
    Ann Coulter must be having an aneurism.

    That’s a perk not a bug. (I don’t mean an actual aneursm)

    • #59
  30. Concretevol Thatcher
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    • #60
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