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Breaking: Trump, Schumer, Pelosi Make DACA Deal
Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer and House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi had dinner at the White House Wednesday night. Upon its conclusion, they announced that they have reached an agreement with the President to “enshrine the protections of DACA into law.” What isn’t included in the agreement? The wall:
We had a very productive meeting at the White House with the President. The discussion focused on DACA. We agreed to enshrine the protections of DACA into law quickly, and to work out a package of border security, excluding the wall, that’s acceptable to both sides.
Update: The White House responds.
While DACA and border security were both discussed, excluding the wall was certainly not agreed to.
— Stephanie Grisham (@PressSec) September 14, 2017
Update II: POTUS responds.
No deal was made last night on DACA. Massive border security would have to be agreed to in exchange for consent. Would be subject to vote.
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) September 14, 2017
Does anybody really want to throw out good, educated and accomplished young people who have jobs, some serving in the military? Really!…..
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) September 14, 2017
…They have been in our country for many years through no fault of their own – brought in by parents at young age. Plus BIG border security
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) September 14, 2017
Published in Immigration, Politics
Nothing in this deal prevents Trump from begging Congress for border wall funding which they will never give him.
I think we get that attempting to be nuanced by using a word like ” leanings” might be lost on those with bash-Trump-at-every-opportunity leanings.
I think it’s interesting that the White House is saying the report is “misleading.” Misleading is a term that almost always means something that is factually accurate, but presented in a way you don’t like. If something isn’t true you at the very least call it inaccurate. But I’m more than happy to agree that it’s possible Trump didn’t agree to what is claimed. We’ll find out soon enough.
OK, then what are you saying.
It would be nice to see him get something conservative in as well? I was very optimistic about tax cuts, but if he’s already conceding ground I think we can kiss anything impactful to us everyday blokes goodbye.
Moderator Note:
Attacking Ricochet staff.There are none, don’t hold your breath waiting for some. You can’t “strike a deal” with the Minority Party. The Democrats saw the last fake “deal” drive a pretty good wedge between the GOP and Trump, and so they are writing these press releases with no substance, but just enough proper wording to hammer that wedge and widen the gap. [Redacted.]
Yes, indeed we will.
Sorry. Slipped up there. It won’t happen again.
Judging by the Twitter reactions of Trump’s fan base (even Hannity), Trump may wish to have Melisandre around the White House over the next few days.
Won’t be the first (and far from the best) politician to make defining mistakes under the influence of immigration romanticism.
I don’t recall his coming down the escalator, making uncompromising remarks about full expensing and repatriation brackets, and then rocketing to the front of the race. But memory is fickle.
Mexico. Mexico is funding the wall. Congress has no purse stake in it. It will be all Mexico.
We’ll see. Tax hikes on The Wealthy – defined by the Left as anyone who makes more than an elementary school teacher – are bad for any number of everyday blokes who make or do things the upper brackets consume. But if someone convinced President Trump that hiking taxes on The Rich or levying a surcharge on their property to pay for Infrastructure would be described by the NYT and WaPo as an example of his dealmaking abilities – the press equivalent of good ratings – it’s within the realm of possibility that he’d agree.
Your perspective on the matter depends on whether you think he is primarily motivated by advancing specific conservative policies, or being seen as the successful Dealmaker. Whether he’d rather see the headline Trump Bill Passes over Tax Overhaul Signed; Critics Assail “Inequalities.”
Let’s start treating teacher’s summer vacation as taxable income.
It doesn’t matter. We don’t have a republican party, we have Trump, Democrats, and people who just sit around and do nothing but absorb money.
If our current GOP legislators were replaced by worms, would it actually change anything? It’s just another scam to keep them in power. Why do we even care who is in Congress? The democrats are the only people who actually accomplish anything there. Republican congressmen sell themself out like the cheapest prostitutes, fainting at the thought of any controversy.
I’m not becoming a libertarian, that’s a sure-fire loser. Anyway, I believe its political doctrine is now just get so stoned that you don’t notice the jihadists cut your throat.
Hopefully our kakistocratic political class will suffer grisly, agonizing fates in the eventual apocalypse.
It was a foregone conclusion that dreamers would never be deported. A congress that can’t repeal pre existing conditions would never let that happen. Looks too mean. So Trump really didn’t give anything up.
I want to know more about the deal, and there had better be upside or I will be pissed.
He always said he was going to cut deals, but he said those deals would be good deals.
That is true, but with only a few squish defectors, (only three in the Senate) the Dems can get stuff passed. Likely there are enough squishy R seats in the house to get the 24 or so they need there since the Rs have never been unanimous on immigration anyway. Rs need what they have never demonstrated, party loyalty on issue votes.
Every word out of Pelosis and Schumers mouth is a lie including ‘and’ and ‘the’.
Why do we suddenly believe them now?
Lets wait for details before we panic eh.
Democrats telling stretchers?
How unlikely is that?
DACA as it stands now does not necessarily facilitate chain migration and is not a path to citizenship, so it is certainly possible to keep the program and not give in on these issues.
I’d like to see DACA get preserved legally through legislative action, but I do not and will never trust Pelosi and Schumer more than McConnell and Ryan, and I can’t see anything to get excited about in a Republican president bypassing Republican leadership to work primarily with the Dems.
In order to be said to have leanings, ones must actually occasionally lean.
Then they’re in good company with the President.
Indeed. And this is the face of McQueeg to use ……………….
While I am certainly sympathetic to people in this program, I think the concern is that DACA will eventually change from work permits to green cards to citizenship. Either way, DAPA seems to have already been built on top of DACA, and doesn’t DAPA thereby grant a kind of status based on nothing more than chain relationship?
I would be fine with DACA and DAPA if we abandoned the overall weird family sponsorship system we have, which I find ridiculous, increase immigration numbers based on needed skill sets, and put into place E-Verify, no wall required.
For those things–especially moving to a points system–I would even be fine with giving the current 800,000 DACA enrollees citizenship. That particular amnesty is a fair price, I think, for those sweeping changes, and I’m pretty pro-immigration in general.
If Donald Trump is able to make that deal, then I will applaud him. I think those results would force me to change my opinion about his actual abilities.
But I don’t trust much “in Trump,” and Schumer, Nancy says, “speaks New York,” so I guess I’m pretty skeptical about how this will all shake out, especially since I can’t see how actually fixing the immigration system for the country helps Democrats politically. I am much too cynical about both parties now to still think much of any of it is motivated by the desire to actually make good policy.
Uhh, not so fast…..
President Trump tweeted that ‘no deal’ was made on DACA despite top House and Senate Democrats saying they have reached and agreement.
The President tweeted just after 6 a.m. Thursday.
His full tweet said:
“No deal was made last night on DACA. Massive border security would have to be agreed to in exchange for consent. Would be subject to vote.”
While I have no problem with border security, I would rather he look at internal changes to our immigration laws that I think would impact the overall system in a much more long term and meaningful way. That’s better policy than politics.
But who knows what was said? What handshakes were made?
All of us here know exactly nothing, which is probably where the Republican leaders stand as well, and that’s kinda strange, too.
NOTE: Update II in the OP, occurred after comments #53 and #55. Carry on.
I predict today will be very hilarious.
That’s a perk not a bug. (I don’t mean an actual aneursm)