How ’bout that Mirai Botnet

 

Do you remember that thing? It was the panic of the week last fall. Some jerks took large portions of the internet down for a couple hours. Everyone was in a tizzy for a bit. Well, the problem is still there. At least now nobody’s in a flail-your-arms panic over it, so maybe it’s worth discussing solutions.

Since there’s very little reason to remember the panic of the day even a week later, let me remind you how this works. A couple years back “Internet of Things” became the fashionable buzzword, so we all went out and bought WiFi enabled toasters. Now you can start toasting automatically when your alarm clock goes off. The fact that your toast will be ice cold by your seventh snooze is a small price to pay for living in The Future! But when you got your FutureToast, you didn’t bother to change the default password (it’s a hassle and if you did you’d forget the new one and what’s the worst that could happen anyway?) Mr. Nefarious Hacker sees that you’ve got a FutureToast, and he can log into it too. With your toaster and the 13,000 other ones that nobody’s changed the passwords on (and the 3300 GarageNoMores, and 4200 BlindsWithScience, and 132 HubCapConnects) he’s got access to a massive number internet connected devices. Mr. Nefarious Hacker can then use them to form punishing denial of service attacks, making the internet useless to the rest of us.

How do we solve this problem? It seems resistant to market forces. From FutureToast Inc.’s perspective adding security to their toasters makes them cost more and makes them less user friendly. That translates to less toaster sales. The Customer doesn’t care; the fact that his toaster is a tool for world domination doesn’t stop it from providing toast on demand.

If you ask the computer security industry, they tend to tell you “Government Regulation.” Every FutureToast variant has to have a password change on first boot up, mandated by law. This solves the problem in the future, but there’s still a heck of a lot of unsecured devices in existence today. The government is also a good way to take all the vitality out of an industry. Maybe there are better solutions.

You could educate the public. As a rule that never works. Take me as an example. I know this is a thing, and I think it’s a big enough problem to post about it on Ricochet. Now ask me what my password is for my Raspberry Pi. It’s not hard to guess.

You could hack back. If you go into my FutureToast and change the passwords then Mr. Nefarious Hacker can’t use it. But then I can’t use it anymore, either. That approach amounts to the destruction of property. This is also not a good solution.

You could, and I can’t overstate the general applicability of this solution, actively wait for your problem to go away. We haven’t seen Mirai in the news much at all even though nobody’s fixed the problem. Maybe the world wakes up and realizes their fridge really shouldn’t have anything to say to their toilet and they stop buying IoT devices. Maybe we figure out a better way to catch the people behind these attacks and launching them becomes a much riskier proposition. Maybe Russia gets into a war with China and the world’s supply of hackers gets busy fighting one another. Maybe none of those happen and we’re still stuck with the problem.

What do you think, Ricochet? Got any brilliant ideas?

Published in Technology
This post was promoted to the Main Feed by a Ricochet Editor at the recommendation of Ricochet members. Like this post? Want to comment? Join Ricochet’s community of conservatives and be part of the conversation. Join Ricochet for Free.

There are 191 comments.

Become a member to join the conversation. Or sign in if you're already a member.
  1. RightAngles Member
    RightAngles
    @RightAngles

    KevinSchurig (View Comment):
    Come on, the next step is Skynet. I say let’s go all “Elvis” and shoot the damn devices. Except my Alexa. I just love getting garbage I didn’t know I ordered.

    I saw a promo for a new cable show where the girl is on the sofa with a guy after their date. He asks if she has plans for Thursday night, and she looks coquettishly up at the ceiling and says, “Hmmmm. Plans for Thursday night?” and Alexa (or Siri or whatever it is) says in her mechanical voice: “Plans. For. Thursday. Dinner with Big D–ck Tony.”  The guy gets up and leaves. That is where we are headed, my friends.

    • #61
  2. skipsul Inactive
    skipsul
    @skipsul

    RightAngles (View Comment):

    KevinSchurig (View Comment):
    Come on, the next step is Skynet. I say let’s go all “Elvis” and shoot the damn devices. Except my Alexa. I just love getting garbage I didn’t know I ordered.

    I saw a promo for a new cable show where the girl is on the sofa with a guy after their date. He asks if she has plans for Thursday night, and she looks coquettishly up at the ceiling and says, “Hmmmm. Plans for Thursday night?” and Alexa (or Siri or whatever it is) says in her mechanical voice: “Plans. For. Thursday. Dinner with Big D–ck Tony.” The guy gets up and leaves. That is where we are headed, my friends.

    You obviously have discovered one of my aliases.

    • #62
  3. Judge Mental Member
    Judge Mental
    @JudgeMental

    skipsul (View Comment):

    RightAngles (View Comment):

    KevinSchurig (View Comment):
    Come on, the next step is Skynet. I say let’s go all “Elvis” and shoot the damn devices. Except my Alexa. I just love getting garbage I didn’t know I ordered.

    I saw a promo for a new cable show where the girl is on the sofa with a guy after their date. He asks if she has plans for Thursday night, and she looks coquettishly up at the ceiling and says, “Hmmmm. Plans for Thursday night?” and Alexa (or Siri or whatever it is) says in her mechanical voice: “Plans. For. Thursday. Dinner with Big D–ck Tony.” The guy gets up and leaves. That is where we are headed, my friends.

    You obviously have discovered one of my aliases.

    I don’t care where she thinks we’re headed, I ain’t going to dinner with Tony.

    • #63
  4. GLDIII Reagan
    GLDIII
    @GLDIII

    DrewInWisconsin (View Comment):

    RightAngles (View Comment):
    I had no idea this was a thing, and since I’m just like most people, I bet nobody else (outside of IT) does either. I have Spectrum Intelligent Home (was Time Warner), a wireless home security system. So are you telling me I’m adding to potential disasters? And can hackers hack into it and use my toaster when I’m not home?

    Yes, but they can’t figure out where you keep the butter.

    Not if the refrigerator IoT finks on her and tell em she has 4 stick of butter in the lower left draw…..

    • #64
  5. GLDIII Reagan
    GLDIII
    @GLDIII

    skipsul (View Comment):

    RushBabe49 (View Comment):
    There are advantages to not having a smartphone.

    I want a new bumper sticker that says ” Resist the IoT!”

    I am not fond of the constant articles telling me that my future will consist of internet-connected absolutely everything, driverless cars, car-sharing rather than car-owning, “smart” electric meters, etc…. Not for me, thank you. I prefer Liberty.

    Don’t buy a BMW then. My parents have one and when it needs an oil change it will notify the dealership, who will then call my parents to set up an appointment.

    I would rip the heart right out of that BMW and dashing to the garage floor, because you know the next step will be to email the local enforcement folks so they can just sending you the violations ticket in the mail and save the capital outlay on the stationary photo money maker they are already employing.

    • #65
  6. Matt Balzer Member
    Matt Balzer
    @MattBalzer

    GLDIII (View Comment):

    skipsul (View Comment):

    RushBabe49 (View Comment):
    There are advantages to not having a smartphone.

    I want a new bumper sticker that says ” Resist the IoT!”

    I am not fond of the constant articles telling me that my future will consist of internet-connected absolutely everything, driverless cars, car-sharing rather than car-owning, “smart” electric meters, etc…. Not for me, thank you. I prefer Liberty.

    Don’t buy a BMW then. My parents have one and when it needs an oil change it will notify the dealership, who will then call my parents to set up an appointment.

    I would rip the heart right out of that BMW and dashing to the garage floor, because you know the next step will be to email the local enforcement folks so they can just sending you the violations ticket in the mail and save the capital outlay on the stationary photo money maker they are already employing.

    They already do that in some places. Illinois, I think for one.

    • #66
  7. skipsul Inactive
    skipsul
    @skipsul

    GLDIII (View Comment):

    DrewInWisconsin (View Comment):

    RightAngles (View Comment):
    I had no idea this was a thing, and since I’m just like most people, I bet nobody else (outside of IT) does either. I have Spectrum Intelligent Home (was Time Warner), a wireless home security system. So are you telling me I’m adding to potential disasters? And can hackers hack into it and use my toaster when I’m not home?

    Yes, but they can’t figure out where you keep the butter.

    Not if the refrigerator IoT finks on her and tell em she has 4 stick of butter in the lower left draw…..

    Worse, it will tell your doc what you are eating and will lock itself once it thinks you have had enough for the day.

    • #67
  8. Judge Mental Member
    Judge Mental
    @JudgeMental

    skipsul (View Comment):

    GLDIII (View Comment):

    DrewInWisconsin (View Comment):

    RightAngles (View Comment):
    I had no idea this was a thing, and since I’m just like most people, I bet nobody else (outside of IT) does either. I have Spectrum Intelligent Home (was Time Warner), a wireless home security system. So are you telling me I’m adding to potential disasters? And can hackers hack into it and use my toaster when I’m not home?

    Yes, but they can’t figure out where you keep the butter.

    Not if the refrigerator IoT finks on her and tell em she has 4 stick of butter in the lower left draw…..

    Worse, it will tell your doc what you are eating and will lock itself once it thinks you have had enough for the day.

    Ever see The Island?  Urinalysis in your toilet with corresponding automatic dietary restrictions.

    • #68
  9. Nanda Panjandrum Member
    Nanda Panjandrum
    @

    Isaac Smith (View Comment):
    I solve it by buying a “just a toaster.” I know I’m a Luddite before you comment.

    Just a toaster, “rabbit ears”, legal pads/pens/pencils….The list never ends. And I love it! :-D

    • #69
  10. Aaron Miller Inactive
    Aaron Miller
    @AaronMiller

    Wow, and I thought the worst was when I caught the sexbot making the laundrybot a sandwich.

    My sandwich!

    • #70
  11. DrewInWisconsin Member
    DrewInWisconsin
    @DrewInWisconsin

    This has quickly become one of my favorite Ricochet threads.

    • #71
  12. Hank Rhody Contributor
    Hank Rhody
    @HankRhody

    GLDIII (View Comment):
    I would rip the heart right out of that BMW and dashing to the garage floor, because you know the next step will be to email the local enforcement folks so they can just sending you the violations ticket in the mail and save the capital outlay on the stationary photo money maker they are already employing.

    Wanna get in on the ground floor of the next big thing? Figure out how to jailbreak cars.

    • #72
  13. Hank Rhody Contributor
    Hank Rhody
    @HankRhody

    Randy Webster (View Comment):

    Hank Rhody: How do we solve this problem?

    I solve it by buying a “just a toaster.” I know I’m a Luddite before you comment.

    Being a Luddite is a perfectly reasonable reaction. I think there’s potential in the whole IoT nonsense, but until the stuff actually makes your life better your analogue toaster is going to be just fine.

    Hm… are toasters naturally digital? With the presence and absence of bread you can represent the numbers 0 through 3 in binary.

    • #73
  14. Hank Rhody Contributor
    Hank Rhody
    @HankRhody

    You know what really worries me about the future?

    Titus Techera (View Comment):
    Hellz to the yeah!

    This. This worries. me.

    • #74
  15. Matt Balzer Member
    Matt Balzer
    @MattBalzer

    Hank Rhody (View Comment):

    GLDIII (View Comment):
    I would rip the heart right out of that BMW and dashing to the garage floor, because you know the next step will be to email the local enforcement folks so they can just sending you the violations ticket in the mail and save the capital outlay on the stationary photo money maker they are already employing.

    Wanna get in on the ground floor of the next big thing? Figure out how to jailbreak cars.

    It’s a totally reversible process.

    • #75
  16. Matt Balzer Member
    Matt Balzer
    @MattBalzer

    Hank Rhody (View Comment):

    Randy Webster (View Comment):

    Hank Rhody: How do we solve this problem?

    I solve it by buying a “just a toaster.” I know I’m a Luddite before you comment.

    Being a Luddite is a perfectly reasonable reaction. I think there’s potential in the whole IoT nonsense, but until the stuff actually makes your life better your analogue toaster is going to be just fine.

    Hm… are toasters naturally digital? With the presence and absence of bread you can represent the numbers 0 through 3 in binary.

    Unless you’ve got a four-slice toaster, in which case up to 7.

    • #76
  17. Hank Rhody Contributor
    Hank Rhody
    @HankRhody

    skipsul (View Comment):
    I had to replace my washer recently – the new one (an LG model) came with WiFi, there’s a smartphone app you can use to load it with your own customized wash cycles! I’m not going to bother.

    From what I’ve heard from the many fine ladies of Ricochet (very few of whom I suspect to be rogue sex-bots), the deficiency in a lot of modern washing machines is their unwillingness to use much water. Do your custom wash cycles allow you to add enough water? Cause that could be useful.

    • #77
  18. Hank Rhody Contributor
    Hank Rhody
    @HankRhody

    Matt Balzer (View Comment):

    If there were an IoT device that would keep those dang kids off of my lawn, however…

    You just need one of those invisible fences. Don’t know how to get the collars on the kids though.

    My smartphone has a radio app, which requires you to have your earbuds in. It uses the wires on the headphones as an antenna.

    If you could induce enough current in that wire…

    • #78
  19. Hank Rhody Contributor
    Hank Rhody
    @HankRhody

    Matt Balzer (View Comment):

    Hm… are toasters naturally digital? With the presence and absence of bread you can represent the numbers 0 through 3 in binary.

    Unless you’ve got a four-slice toaster, in which case up to 7.

    Just when I get used to hexadecimal you expect me to switch to octal? I’m going to need more toasters.

    • #79
  20. Hank Rhody Contributor
    Hank Rhody
    @HankRhody

    Aaron Miller (View Comment):
    On the verge of IoT, a security expert I know uses something that connects his doorbell to a camera so that he can see the person on his smartphone before answering. It also acts as intercom for taunting door-to-door salesmen.

    Not “on the verge”, that’s definitionally IoT. You’re adding a processor and networking capabilities to something which was getting along perfectly well without it.

    In that case though, he’s getting something useful out of it. And I’m guessing your security expert changed his password. To WhippedCream.

    • #80
  21. GLDIII Reagan
    GLDIII
    @GLDIII

    DrewInWisconsin (View Comment):

    Aaron Miller (View Comment):
    All I want is a toaster that plays “Sprach Zarathustra” as the coils heat up.

    Maybe the washamachine could play “Flight of the Valkyries” when overloaded (which, let’s be honest, is every load).

    Coming right up . . .

    Some one has way to much time on there hands at the rectory office…

    (had to wait until after work to play this, too many ears in our little confined control room).

    • #81
  22. Chuck Enfield Inactive
    Chuck Enfield
    @ChuckEnfield

    Guruforhire (View Comment):
    Thats the technical solution, but nobody has any incentive to buy it. Since the products aren’t causing problems for the consumers. So your marketing would have to be hyperbolic. Since the hyperbole would basically be pretty obvious to any one with the least amount of tech savvy. The click baiters would kill it off.

    Really?  You mean hyperbolic like the global warming crisis?

    So the best thing to do is start an IETF working group and develop an standard API for home automation. Then when there is an open standard, everybody would adopt it over time. Then because developers can rely on standardized products, they can develop home automation platforms that are device neutral. This is how the internet and networking in general work. There isn’t much of the internet that isn’t the output of a UN committee, either the ITU or IETF.

    Verizon and Comcast will build a really basic one into the home routers because why leave money on the table. Then if there is a creative interpretation of liability, a basic “secure my home” option will be enabled by default on the router.

    This might help, but middleware defenses aren’t terribly effective on their own.  Manufacturers of consumer devices won’t give a darn until consumers give a darn.  And even if they do give a darn and start building them right, who’s going to write patches for 12 year old systems that only cost $30 to start with?  I can’t get an update for my 1-year old $200 wireless router.

    Some sort of light-weight, reliable, hardware-independent identity and trust model will be required to keep these things from talking to stuff that they should not.  Then we still need to keep our fingers crossed that the trusted systems don’t get compromised.

    I’ll give even odds whether or not we have a catastrophic global meltdown before we get these issues worked out.

    • #82
  23. Chuck Enfield Inactive
    Chuck Enfield
    @ChuckEnfield

    Matt Balzer (View Comment):
    Unless you’ve got a four-slice toaster, in which case up to 7.

    Would it be pedantic to point out that 4 bits will get you to 15?

    But if you have one of those toasters that can fit four slices in two slots does that constitute fuzzy logic?

    • #83
  24. Hank Rhody Contributor
    Hank Rhody
    @HankRhody

    Chuck Enfield (View Comment):
    I’ll give even odds whether or not we have a catastrophic global meltdown before we get these issues worked out.

    I’ve got $10 on getting these issues worked out first.

    Sucker. Good luck on collecting mid meltdown.

    More seriously though, it’s fine to say that building things more securely now won’t fix everything that’s already been built. But that’s a sunk cost; whatever solution we could adopt would still have all those devices in existence. Unless we’re bricking them all like Mr. Balzer’s BMW.

    • #84
  25. Hank Rhody Contributor
    Hank Rhody
    @HankRhody

    Chuck Enfield (View Comment):
    Would it be pedantic to point out that 4 bits will get you to 15?

    Now that I’m counting on my fingers, dangit dangit dangit he’s right!

    What am I going to do with all these toasters now?

    • #85
  26. Guruforhire Inactive
    Guruforhire
    @Guruforhire

    Chuck Enfield (View Comment):

    Guruforhire (View Comment):
    Thats the technical solution, but nobody has any incentive to buy it. Since the products aren’t causing problems for the consumers. So your marketing would have to be hyperbolic. Since the hyperbole would basically be pretty obvious to any one with the least amount of tech savvy. The click baiters would kill it off.

    Really? You mean hyperbolic like the global warming crisis?

    So the best thing to do is start an IETF working group and develop an standard API for home automation. Then when there is an open standard, everybody would adopt it over time. Then because developers can rely on standardized products, they can develop home automation platforms that are device neutral. This is how the internet and networking in general work. There isn’t much of the internet that isn’t the output of a UN committee, either the ITU or IETF.

    Verizon and Comcast will build a really basic one into the home routers because why leave money on the table. Then if there is a creative interpretation of liability, a basic “secure my home” option will be enabled by default on the router.

    This might help, but middleware defenses aren’t terribly effective on their own. Manufacturers of consumer devices won’t give a darn until consumers give a darn. And even if they do give a darn and start building them right, who’s going to write patches for 12 year old systems that only cost $30 to start with? I can’t get an update for my 1-year old $200 wireless router.

    Some sort of light-weight, reliable, hardware-independent identity and trust model will be required to keep these things from talking to stuff that they should not. Then we still need to keep our fingers crossed that the trusted systems don’t get compromised.

    I’ll give even odds whether or not we have a catastrophic global meltdown before we get these issues worked out.

    The thing is that when u write the standard, somebody is going to start the project on github.  When that happens consumer product companies will adopt it because half the development work is done.

     

    The issue of maintenance is real though.  Solid point.

    • #86
  27. Chuck Enfield Inactive
    Chuck Enfield
    @ChuckEnfield

    skipsul (View Comment):
    You have obviously never had to do tech support.

    About 10 years ago I was doing a hardware upgrade on a store-bought PC and couldn’t get it to work.  So I put everything back the way it was and the thing wouldn’t even turn on. I fussed with it for about 2 hours, troubleshooting everything I could think of.  I got so desperate that I called the manufacturer’s tech support.

    After 45 minutes of auto-attendants and hold music, I finally get a person.  Hoping against hope that I got the one guy there who knows what he’s doing, I tell him my problem and everything I’ve done so far.  Much to my dismay, it’s clear that he’s going to stick to the script and waste a couple hours of my time with pointless attempts to fix it.  The conversation went like this:

    Tech Support: “Sounds like you’ve tried everything, but let’s start at the beginning anyway.”

    Me: [sigh] “Alright.”

    Tech Support: “Is the computer plugged in?”

    Me: [brief pause to think about it] “Oh, [expletive]”

    At least we both had a good laugh.

    • #87
  28. Chuck Enfield Inactive
    Chuck Enfield
    @ChuckEnfield

    Guruforhire (View Comment):

    Chuck Enfield (View Comment):

    Guruforhire (View Comment):
    Thats the technical solution, but nobody has any incentive to buy it. Since the products aren’t causing problems for the consumers. So your marketing would have to be hyperbolic. Since the hyperbole would basically be pretty obvious to any one with the least amount of tech savvy. The click baiters would kill it off.

    Really? You mean hyperbolic like the global warming crisis?

    So the best thing to do is start an IETF working group and develop an standard API for home automation. Then when there is an open standard, everybody would adopt it over time. Then because developers can rely on standardized products, they can develop home automation platforms that are device neutral. This is how the internet and networking in general work. There isn’t much of the internet that isn’t the output of a UN committee, either the ITU or IETF.

    Verizon and Comcast will build a really basic one into the home routers because why leave money on the table. Then if there is a creative interpretation of liability, a basic “secure my home” option will be enabled by default on the router.

    This might help, but middleware defenses aren’t terribly effective on their own. Manufacturers of consumer devices won’t give a darn until consumers give a darn. And even if they do give a darn and start building them right, who’s going to write patches for 12 year old systems that only cost $30 to start with? I can’t get an update for my 1-year old $200 wireless router.

    Some sort of light-weight, reliable, hardware-independent identity and trust model will be required to keep these things from talking to stuff that they should not. Then we still need to keep our fingers crossed that the trusted systems don’t get compromised.

    I’ll give even odds whether or not we have a catastrophic global meltdown before we get these issues worked out.

    The thing is that when u write the standard, somebody is going to start the project on github. When that happens consumer product companies will adopt it because half the development work is done.

    The issue of maintenance is real though. Solid point.

    Don’t get me wrong.  I’m all for trying to fix it, and I’m disinclined to let the perfect be the enemy of the good.  I’m just less optimistic than most on this particular problem.

    • #88
  29. Chuck Enfield Inactive
    Chuck Enfield
    @ChuckEnfield

    RightAngles (View Comment):
    I had no idea this was a thing, and since I’m just like most people, I bet nobody else (outside of IT) does either. I have Spectrum Intelligent Home (was Time Warner), a wireless home security system. So are you telling me I’m adding to potential disasters? And can hackers hack into it and use my toaster when I’m not home?

    Hard to say.  I don’t know that particular system, but I’ve researched a number of networked physical security products made for the enterprise.  In general, access control systems are pretty well designed.  Everything else sucks.  The only way to protect it is not to let it talk to anything, and that only keeps it from being hacked.  It’s extremely hard to protect against targeted denial of service attacks, which is as good as disabling something like a surveillance system.  We rely on obscurity to protect these systems.  On a large network this can be sufficient to stump a novice.  It won’t work with a determined expert though.

    • #89
  30. Chuck Enfield Inactive
    Chuck Enfield
    @ChuckEnfield

    Matt Balzer (View Comment):
    A coworker has the technology on his AC unit, so he can start it up when he leaves work and get the house cold by the time he gets there. That seems alright, but judging from my electric bills I’m not worried about the extra cost imposed by leaving it on when I’m at work

    I take advantage of this feature start my car a few minutes early on really cold winter days.

    • #90
Become a member to join the conversation. Or sign in if you're already a member.