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I saw a comment at Ricochet. I thought it was illustrative, and typical of a frustration I have seen many times in the past month.

I would be more optimistic if more major policies had been implemented (repeal Obamacare, tax reform, big military budget, etc.) and if more appointments had been made to the administration and the judiciary. Many substantial things still need done.

Patience, man. Patience. Have patience.

We did not expect that Trump would blow into Washington and set everything to rights in his first 100 days. In fact, some of us predicted that he would be hardly able to accomplish anything in his first six months.

Trump is just getting started. The past six months has just been a warmup. He is still getting an administration put in place. He was past his first 100 days before he had Senate confirmation of his Cabinet officers. In fact, there are still nearly a thousand administration positions to fill (and most of those are still temporarily filled by Deep State holdovers from Team O).

There is no need to start calling the Trump Administration a failure. That sort of foolish rhetoric just helps the Left.

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  1. Member
    MJBubba Post author

    Here are some examples of recent progress by Team Trump:

    https://www.doi.gov/pressreleases/interior-welcomes-seven-new-hires

    https://energy.gov/articles/energy-department-announces-promotion-james-m-owendoff-principal-deputy-assistant-secretary

    https://energy.gov/articles/us-department-energy-authorizes-additional-liquefied-natural-gas-exports-lake-Charles

    https://www.ed.gov/news/press-releases/secretary-education-betsy-devos-announces-intent-appoint-dr-wayne-johnson-chief-operating-officer-federal-student-aid

    https://www.ed.gov/news/press-releases/secretary-devos-issues-statement-regulatory-reform-task-force-progress-report

    https://www.commerce.gov/news/press-releases/2017/06/secretary-commerce-names-interim-census-leadership

    https://www.hhs.gov/about/news/2017/07/07/Secretary-Price-Appoints-Brenda-Fitzgerald-as-CDC-Director-and-ATSDR-Administrator.html

    • #1
    • July 15, 2017 at 1:02 pm
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  2. Member
    MJBubba Post author

    The photo of impatiens was lifted off an internet images search from Walmart.com.

    Last August I put up a post in which I predicted that Trump’s first six months in office should not be expected to show much progress.

    https://ricochet.com/archives/hillary-14-more-evil-than-trump/

    • #2
    • July 15, 2017 at 1:03 pm
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  3. Member
    MJBubba Post author

    My local paper (part of the USA Today Network) ran an editorial by a Justice Department lawyer, who was condemning Trump for something that Trump did not do that this activist wanted done. It turned out that he was a speechwriter for Loretta Lynch. Why does he still have a job? We need to chop that Deep Stater. Give him the old heave-ho. Trump should relish that. He could hold a joint press conference weekly with each Cabinet officer to name the names of Deep State holdovers who got their pink slips in the previous week. Part of his brand is the motto “You’re fired!” Burnish that brand.

    In fact, why wait? Wouldn’t most of those positions be better as vacancies, rather than filled with holdovers from Team O?

    I agree it is hard not to get impatient while waiting for Team Trump to drain the swamp.

    • #3
    • July 15, 2017 at 1:04 pm
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  4. Member
    MJBubba Post author

    It seems to me that the most distressed-sounding complaints about inaction are coming from Nevers who oppose Trump anyway. They predicted that Trump would govern to the left of Hillary, and now they are taunting us over the lack of Trumpian progress. I think they are just looking to excuse themselves; they are finding in Trump’s lack of progress some potential for absolution. They are just as wrong now as they were then.

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    • July 15, 2017 at 1:05 pm
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  5. Member

    Couldn’t agree with you more MJ. Especially with so many elements of the deep state with their face set against him.

    With Trumps work ethic, I believe the wheels of action are turning. I also expect to see in the fullness of time, the ill-legality of the deep state being held to account by the justice dept.

    I feel very positive for moving the football into the regressives Red Zone.

    • #5
    • July 15, 2017 at 1:15 pm
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  6. Member

    Thanks for that list of links.

    I’m admittedly a bit behind here time wise, but as of a couple of weeks ago, the filling of political appointments in the bureaucracy (or lack thereof) was a major concern–and should well be one. On substance, it’s the major concern I’ve had with the Administration to date. It’s extremely important for a president to have his people in place ASAP or the previous Administration will simply continue.

    • #6
    • July 15, 2017 at 1:18 pm
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  7. Reagan

    I agree.

    • #7
    • July 15, 2017 at 2:11 pm
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  8. Member

    Bryan G. Stephens (View Comment):
    I agree.

    I concur.

    • #8
    • July 15, 2017 at 2:25 pm
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  9. Member

    All kidding aside: I think Republicans have internalized “Peace Through Strength” to the point that they will never wield power – no matter the attack.

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    • July 15, 2017 at 2:30 pm
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  10. Thatcher

    Thus far it seems Trump Administration’s ability is mainly in creating bigger scandals than the Clintons and is thus far only surpassed by its ability to dodge impeachment and jail time of its members.

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    • July 15, 2017 at 3:52 pm
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  11. Member
    MJBubba Post author

    Fake John/Jane Galt (View Comment):
    Thus far it seems Trump Administration’s ability is mainly in creating bigger scandals than the Clintons and is thus far only surpassed by its ability to dodge impeachment and jail time of its members.

    Name a “scandal.” Any Trump scandal you can name I can match with a bigger, juicier Clinton scandal.

    Name a crime. I cannot think of any.

    Impeachment is a political act. I don’t care if anti-Trumps yell “impeach;” they are thoroughly discredited.

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    • July 15, 2017 at 3:58 pm
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  12. Thatcher

    MJBubba (View Comment):

    Fake John/Jane Galt (View Comment):
    Thus far it seems Trump Administration’s ability is mainly in creating bigger scandals than the Clintons and is thus far only surpassed by its ability to dodge impeachment and jail time of its members.

    Name a “scandal.” Any Trump scandal you can name I can match with a bigger, juicier Clinton scandal.

    Name a crime. I cannot think of any.

    Impeachment is a political act. I don’t care if anti-Trumps yell “impeach;” they are thoroughly discredited.

    Turn on the news and you will see plenty of discussion of crime, scandal and impeachment. Many, many, investigations into wrong doing. It is even being discussed here on Ricochet. What I do not see is anything about the GOP, Trump and friends actually legally accomplishing anything with an exception of a SCOTUS appointment that has yet to be determined how that guy will pan out. A good day for the nation has been defined down to Trump did not make an ass of himself on Twitter or maybe he made a speech that did not upset all our allies. Still looking for all that winning we were promised.

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    • July 15, 2017 at 4:24 pm
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  13. Member

    It is unclear to me how wanting more appointments and more things done is helping the democrats. Trump needs friendly critics who want him to succeed. However, if Trump only needs true believers, fine. Time is not on his side. Getting stuff done builds power, time reacting to critics and defending himself dissipates power. He needs to get his people in place and get things done. I say this as someone who wants him to succeed.

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    • July 15, 2017 at 5:00 pm
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  14. Member
    MJBubba Post author

    Fake John/Jane Galt (View Comment):

    MJBubba (View Comment):

    Fake John/Jane Galt (View Comment):
    Thus far it seems Trump Administration’s ability is mainly in creating bigger scandals than the Clintons and is thus far only surpassed by its ability to dodge impeachment and jail time of its members.

    Name a “scandal.” Any Trump scandal you can name I can match with a bigger, juicier Clinton scandal.

    Name a crime. I cannot think of any.

    Impeachment is a political act. I don’t care if anti-Trumps yell “impeach;” they are thoroughly discredited.

    Turn on the news and you will see plenty of discussion of crime, scandal and impeachment. Many, many, investigations into wrong doing. It is even being discussed here on Ricochet.

    Of course the news is filled with “discussion.” Journalists are Leftists and Leftists hate Trump. They are talking and talking endlessly but have not yet produced any evidence. And we are talking about it endlessly here at Ricochet because Ricochet is tilted NeverTrump.

    I wish I could run down the source of a great line I heard last week:

    “The media have been running around for six months with their hair on fire, yelling about all the smoke.”

    What I do not see is anything about the GOP, Trump and friends actually legally accomplishing anything with an exception of a SCOTUS appointment that has yet to be determined how that guy will pan out.

    Your impatience is unwarranted. See my post, above.

    A good day for the nation has been defined down to Trump did not make an ass of himself on Twitter or maybe he made a speech that did not upset all our allies.

    I do not care if you think President Trump makes an ass of himself on Twitter. I do not care if he upsets our Leftist allies.

    Still looking for all that winning we were promised.

    Patience, man.

    Patience.

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    • July 15, 2017 at 5:00 pm
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  15. Member
    MJBubba Post author

    E. Kent Golding (View Comment):
    It is unclear to me how wanting more appointments and more things done is helping the democrats. Trump needs friendly critics who want him to succeed. However, if Trump only needs true believers, fine. Time is not on his side. Getting stuff done builds power, time reacting to critics and defending himself dissipates power. He needs to get his people in place and get things done. I say this as someone who wants him to succeed.

    Good. I want him to succeed, also. I am rooting for President Trump.

    It is just that I had realistic expectations going in. Go read my post from last August.

    https://ricochet.com/archives/hillary-14-more-evil-than-trump/

    • #15
    • July 15, 2017 at 5:03 pm
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  16. Contributor

    Hoyacon (View Comment):
    Thanks for that list of links.

    I’m admittedly a bit behind here time wise, but as of a couple of weeks ago, the filling of political appointments in the bureaucracy (or lack thereof) was a major concern–and should well be one. On substance, it’s the major concern I’ve had with the Administration to date. It’s extremely important for a president to have his people in place ASAP or the previous Administration will simply continue.

    FYI, I have a post coming out on the appointments tomorrow.

    • #16
    • July 15, 2017 at 5:10 pm
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  17. Member

    One of us is unrealistic. Time will tell.

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    • July 15, 2017 at 6:07 pm
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  18. Coolidge

    Addiction Is A Choice (View Comment):
    All kidding aside: I think Republicans have internalized “Peace Through Strength” to the point that they will never wield power – no matter the attack.

    That or they are not who they say they are.

    • #18
    • July 15, 2017 at 6:57 pm
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  19. Coolidge

    Fake John/Jane Galt (View Comment):

    MJBubba (View Comment):

    Fake John/Jane Galt (View Comment):
    Thus far it seems Trump Administration’s ability is mainly in creating bigger scandals than the Clintons and is thus far only surpassed by its ability to dodge impeachment and jail time of its members.

    Name a “scandal.” Any Trump scandal you can name I can match with a bigger, juicier Clinton scandal.

    Name a crime. I cannot think of any.

    Impeachment is a political act. I don’t care if anti-Trumps yell “impeach;” they are thoroughly discredited.

    Turn on the news and you will see plenty of discussion of crime, scandal and impeachment. Many, many, investigations into wrong doing. It is even being discussed here on Ricochet. What I do not see is anything about the GOP, Trump and friends actually legally accomplishing anything with an exception of a SCOTUS appointment that has yet to be determined how that guy will pan out. A good day for the nation has been defined down to Trump did not make an ass of himself on Twitter or maybe he made a speech that did not upset all our allies. Still looking for all that winning we were promised.

    Oh so you trust the MSM news. Well that makes it easy to distrust you.

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    • July 15, 2017 at 6:59 pm
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  20. Moderator

    Fake John/Jane Galt (View Comment):

    MJBubba (View Comment):

    Fake John/Jane Galt (View Comment):
    Thus far it seems Trump Administration’s ability is mainly in creating bigger scandals than the Clintons and is thus far only surpassed by its ability to dodge impeachment and jail time of its members.

    Name a “scandal.” Any Trump scandal you can name I can match with a bigger, juicier Clinton scandal.

    Name a crime. I cannot think of any.

    Impeachment is a political act. I don’t care if anti-Trumps yell “impeach;” they are thoroughly discredited.

    Turn on the news and you will see plenty of discussion of crime, scandal and impeachment. Many, many, investigations into wrong doing. It is even being discussed here on Ricochet. What I do not see is anything about the GOP, Trump and friends actually legally accomplishing anything with an exception of a SCOTUS appointment that has yet to be determined how that guy will pan out. A good day for the nation has been defined down to Trump did not make an ass of himself on Twitter or maybe he made a speech that did not upset all our allies. Still looking for all that winning we were promised.

    Obviously the talk about winning was mostly absurd; if you hold Trump to Trump’s promises, of course you’ll be disappointed.

    Treat Trump like a normal President, though, and things look less bad. He’s slower to staff his administration than most, but given his unusual burdens I, for one, would rather he be slower and get more Mattises and DeVoses than be faster and appoint more Pete Navarros (if you’re not familiar with how Navarro got his job, it’s worth looking the story up).

    He’s got some important stuff passed, but nothing earthshaking. It’s possible that he will have something worthy of a big first year achievement shortly, though, in the form of some of the largest entitlement cuts in history. After that, tax reform, which might be big and might be small. If it’s big and gets passed, Trump will have an unusually large degree of first year accomplishment. Compare Bush (the first round of tax cuts passed in June, but not much else until the PATRIOT Act in October) or Clinton (motor voter and the FMLA, plus a surprisingly conservative budget). Bush 41 got CatCare repealed before it went into effect, which was a pretty big deal, but the second biggest thing to this point was whistleblower protection. Carter got a tax cut passed. Reagan and Obama got more done.

    There’s a lot to worry about; I like to think I’m not the only one here praying that the NAFTA demands issued on Monday will be plausible statements. It’s possible that the endless scandal and twitter inanity will drag down performance so much that the White House does not pick up speed in its second six months and we’re still running on Obama nominees well into 2018. Maybe the scandal will expand into something concrete. If the current decline in support for the President continues, we could be up for a disastrous mid-term. A Democratic House/ Trump/ 50-50 Senate could be a recipe for policies none of us would be happy to see.

    Still, this is kind of normal; six months into a Presidency, you’re not meant to know what the rest of it is going to look like. At this point with Obama, it looked as if the end were nigh. Then Kennedy died in August and the tide started to turn. At this point with Bush, it looked like things were going to be more centrist forever, then 9/11 got people excited again.

    We shouldn’t be counting our chickens yet, but we shouldn’t be disappointed yet, either.

    To put it differently, we need more MJBubba in the media.

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    • July 16, 2017 at 1:31 am
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  21. Member
    MJBubba Post author

    Thanks, James O.E.,

    I really like comparing accomplishments. As for the approval rating, I think there has been a change in the outlook that should be factored in.

    The approval rating has a ceiling. It used to be that nobody ever expected a president to be able to score better than 90 %. These days, I believe the ceiling is much lower, closer to 60 %. The approval rating should be read in that context.

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    • July 16, 2017 at 5:54 am
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  22. Moderator

    MJBubba (View Comment):
    Thanks, James O.E.,

    I really like comparing accomplishments. As for the approval rating, I think there has been a change in the outlook that should be factored in.

    The approval rating has a ceiling. It used to be that nobody ever expected a president to be able to score better than 90 %. These days, I believe the ceiling is much lower, closer to 60 %. The approval rating should be read in that context.

    Sure. If he’s above 50% in November 2018, that would be very good news indeed. If that happens, particularly if the temptation to vent at Congress has been held in check, we’re in the making Reagan look like small potatoes territory. If the polls are approaching 40%, like Obama in November 2010, that would be less awesome. If they’re worse, as they are now, that would be unfortunate. If they’re substantially down from where we are today, Trump may see a repetition of Obama’s pattern, in which virtually every long term reform that favors his partisan position is accomplished in the first Congress.

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    • July 16, 2017 at 4:23 pm
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  23. Thatcher

    Fake John/Jane Galt (View Comment):
    Thus far it seems Trump Administration’s ability is mainly in creating bigger scandals than the Clintons and is thus far only surpassed by its ability to dodge impeachment and jail time of its members.

    An opinion based on what facts? This appears to be a typical unsubstantiated slur against Trump and his supporters. Please convince me otherwise.

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    • July 16, 2017 at 5:09 pm
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  24. Member

    When will DACA be decapitated? After all it’s just an executive order and could be eliminated right now. Why let a program that has documented roughly 1 million illegal immigrants and given them explicit government permission to stay (and thus take jobs for instance) stand? Sounds like an affront to the rule of law.

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    • July 16, 2017 at 10:16 pm
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  25. Member

    I put the blame on Reince Preibus who is turning quickly into the worst chief of staff of any President ever. We have thousands of appointments to make. Contact the state chairs of the RNC and find out who is available from the states to take on these positions. There is a huge opportunities to properly drain the swamp and replace them with outsiders with experience in the bureauacracy of the states. Trump has shown an ability to sign things if you present them to him. It seems clear to me that the people around him are not presenting him things to sign.

    “Turn on the news and you will see plenty of discussion of crime, scandal and impeachment.”

    No. I will not do this. You have made the accusation. Now name 3 things. If you cannot do even one specific charge we can address. I will ignore you. Since your to lazy to make an accusation I am not going to do the work for you.

    “The media have been running around for six months with their hair on fire, yelling about all the smoke.”

    –Mark Steyn on Tucker Carlson.

    • #25
    • July 17, 2017 at 5:49 am
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  26. Member
    MJBubba Post author

    ToryWarWriter (View Comment):
    “The media have been running around for six months with their hair on fire, yelling about all the smoke.”

    –Mark Steyn on Tucker Carlson.

    ToryWarWriter,

    Thank you very much for citing the source.

    It is such a good line, it is not surprising it is M. Steyn’s.

    • #26
    • July 17, 2017 at 3:42 pm
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