As Scalise Leaves Intensive Care, Democrats Leave Civility Far Behind

 

First, the good news: Rep. Steve Scalise has been released from the intensive care unit. MedStar Washington Hospital Center stated that “Scalise’s continued good progress allowed him to be transferred out” and that he “remains in fair condition as he continues an extended period of healing and rehabilitation.”

Scalise was sent to the ICU by a crazed Bernie Sanders volunteer with a long history of angry social media posts against congressional Republicans and President Trump. A list of several GOP lawmakers was found on his body after Capitol Police took him down. His goal was to overturn the results of free and fair elections with the barrel of a gun.

Obviously, rhetoric didn’t pull the trigger on that Alexandria baseball practice last week, and we can’t hold liberal politicians and celebrities directly accountable for the actions of a violent, unbalanced man. Free speech in politics often tends toward the hyperbolic yet it is, and should remain, fully protected under the First Amendment. But after the shooting, many Democrats paused their efforts to undermine that right and called instead for civility on a voluntary basis.

To be honest, I’m surprised it (sort of) lasted a week.

DC Democrats aren’t the only ones insisting that Republicans are murderers.

Nebraska Democratic Party official Phil Montag was fired after audio surfaced in which he said of Scalise, “His whole job is to get people, convince Republicans to [expletive] kick people off [expletive] health care.” Montag added, “I’m glad he got shot. I wish he was [expletive] dead.”

Celebrities, too, were quick to join the pile on. In a rambling speech at UK’s Glastonbury Festival, Johnny Depp brought up Trump and asked, “When was the last time an actor assassinated a President?” As the crowd cheered its approval, he continued. “I want to qualify, I am not an actor. I lie for a living. However, it has been a while and maybe it is time,” Depp said.

Democrats want it both ways and, considering the media’s left-wing views, they usually get it. But it’s impossible for voters to believe their “love trumps hate” slogans when hate is nearly all they offer.

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  1. Inactive

    Back in say 2010, before Obamacare became law, I don’t recall stumbling over dead bodies as I walked down the street.

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    • June 23, 2017 at 4:39 pm
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    Trump should immediately give Kyle Chapman (based stickman) a presidential medal of freedom

    He does legitimately deserve one, but doing it suddenly would send a valuable message on the national tolerance of political violence.

    Punching back is a nontrivial possibility.

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    • June 23, 2017 at 4:51 pm
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    Vance Richards (View Comment):
    Back in say 2010, before Obamacare became law, I don’t recall stumbling over dead bodies as I walked down the street.

    I once pointed this out to a British fellow who has since become a citizen. He wanted to argue with me about people dying under bridges.

    I’ve lost patience with this crap. These people know better (hello… VA healthcare for everyone??), they’re just politically dishonest.

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    • June 23, 2017 at 5:09 pm
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  4. Thatcher

    I find it chilling that random Nebraska (!) Democrats feel safe to wish death upon opposition leadership figures within earshot of recording devices.

    What do they say when they really let their hair down?

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    • June 23, 2017 at 5:31 pm
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    Western Chauvinist (View Comment):

    Vance Richards (View Comment):
    Back in say 2010, before Obamacare became law, I don’t recall stumbling over dead bodies as I walked down the street.

    I once pointed this out to a British fellow who has since become a citizen. He wanted to argue with me about people dying under bridges.

    I’ve lost patience with this crap. These people know better (hello… VA healthcare for everyone??), they’re just politically dishonest.

    I work with someone like that. Today he was all upset that the Republicans cut the Dems out of the process. I reminded him the Dems did that to the Rep on Obama care. It didn’t register. So then I said ” If I poke you, will you poke me back ? He said huh! I said (in a more aggressive way)”If I poke you, will you poke me back ? He said ” Damn right !” I then said “The Dems poked the Rep with Obama Care, now the Rep are poking the Dems back.” That one clicked, he got it and walked away.

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    • June 23, 2017 at 6:04 pm
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  6. Thatcher

    Jon Gabriel, Ed.: “I want to qualify, I am not an actor.”

    I’ve caught some of Depp’s movies and I’ll vouch for this.

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    • June 23, 2017 at 6:06 pm
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    My brother had no job and no insurance but he had a liver transplant on welfare in 2006.

    Dems lie, with aplomb.

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    • June 23, 2017 at 7:40 pm
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    Gee, I hope the dems don’t tick Trump off and make him say something rash. That would elevate this to a problem.

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    • June 23, 2017 at 7:59 pm
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    B. Hugh Mann (View Comment):
    My brother had no job and no insurance but he had a liver transplant on welfare in 2006.

    Dems lie, with aplomb.

    That’s exactly right. Nobody was going without care.

    And just because people can’t get insurance through the govt does not mean they can’t get it.

    Are people really so stupid?

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    • June 23, 2017 at 9:22 pm
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    Vance Richards (View Comment):
    Back in say 2010, before Obamacare became law, I don’t recall stumbling over dead bodies as I walked down the street.

    I sure did. Obamacare was a godsend.

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    • June 23, 2017 at 9:45 pm
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    Percival (View Comment):

    Jon Gabriel, Ed.: “I want to qualify, I am not an actor.”

    I’ve caught some of Depp’s movies and I’ll vouch for this.

    I take it you didn’t love Mordecai?

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    • June 23, 2017 at 10:04 pm
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    GroovinDrJarvis (View Comment):

    Percival (View Comment):

    Jon Gabriel, Ed.: “I want to qualify, I am not an actor.”

    I’ve caught some of Depp’s movies and I’ll vouch for this.

    I take it you didn’t love Mordecai?

    Didn’t see that one. Saw Edward Scissorhands, was dragged to The Lone Ranger, watched part of one of the Pirates movies. That’s it. I must have missed his masterpieces.

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    • June 23, 2017 at 10:24 pm
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    Johnny has apologized. No malice was involved, he said, just some good natured assassination ribbing. Everyone loves that “Otherwise how was the play, Mrs. Lincoln” joke, so he thought it was all fair game. (And I must admit Depp in Ed Wood is pretty great.)

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    • June 23, 2017 at 11:10 pm
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    What about all the dudes who lost their health insurance because Obamacare raised premiums! (I understand if you find the exclamation point obnoxious but I am genuinely angry.) Obamacare hurt a lot of people. Why in the name of G-d don’t they matter in this discussion?

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    Hypatia (View Comment):

    B. Hugh Mann (View Comment):
    My brother had no job and no insurance but he had a liver transplant on welfare in 2006.

    Dems lie, with aplomb.

    That’s exactly right. Nobody was going without care.

    And just because people can’t get insurance through the govt does not mean they can’t get it.

    Are people really so stupid?

    No they aren’t but they like to be. I recall a lady that infuriated me a while back saying that under Paul Ryan’s plan she would be left to die because she had a voucher. She also said that Trump was like Hitler. She hasn’t left for Canada or Europe yet so I know that she isn’t actually that dumb. But she likes to say dumb things to feel morally justified.

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    Henry Castaigne (View Comment):
    What about all the dudes who lost their health insurance because Obamacare raised premiums! (I understand if you find the exclamation point obnoxious but I am genuinely angry.) Obamacare hurt a lot of people. Why in the name of G-d don’t they matter in this discussion?

    I don’t always agree with Orson Scott Card’s point of view on things, but I did like his recent take on all this hubbub over the Republicans replacing Obamacare:

    Those who oppose everything the Republicans propose in their Obamacare “replacement” invariably compare their proposal, not with Obamacare as it actually is, but with Obamacare as Obama promised it would be

    Problems that could have been fixed with tort reform and universal catastrophic coverage have now been made far worse, while everyone who ever paid at all is now paying far, far more for markedly worse coverage. That’s what Obamacare actually did. But politically, it cannot be rolled back, because the Democrats all whine and howl as if Obamacare had actually delivered on its false promises, and now the Republicans are trying to take it all away.

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    Henry Castaigne (View Comment):
    What about all the dudes who lost their health insurance because Obamacare raised premiums! (I understand if you find the exclamation point obnoxious but I am genuinely angry.) Obamacare hurt a lot of people. Why in the name of G-d don’t they matter in this discussion?

    So in order to insure about 10 million people without insurance ( actually putting them on Medicaid), Obamacare screwed up the policies of many many times that many Americans, making their insurance way more expensive and less useful ( if I needed to buy mine on the exchange it would cost 2300 a month with a 12500 deductible for example).

    But of course the MSM Pravda ignores that.

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    I think we need to count people losing insurance the way they do job creation. For example, if Joe is unemployed at the beginning of the year, works four temp jobs during the year, and is unemployed at the end of the year, they count that as four jobs created.

    I’m going to get cancelled again this year, as Anthem pulls out of the Ohio market. I will then be three people losing their insurance.

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    Jon Gabriel, Ed.: Democrats want it both ways and, considering the media’s left-wing views, they usually get it. But it’s impossible for voters to believe their “love trumps hate” slogans when hate is nearly all they offer.

    Doublethink–the power of holding two contradictory beliefs in one’s mind simultaneously, and accepting both of them.

    George Orwell.

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    We can complain all we like, but it works. Republican law makers can’t undo the damage because they are afraid of the rhetoric, and they are afraid of market solutions even though these are the only approaches that can work because they are part of the administrative state.

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    Hypatia (View Comment):

    B. Hugh Mann (View Comment):
    My brother had no job and no insurance but he had a liver transplant on welfare in 2006.

    Dems lie, with aplomb.

    That’s exactly right. Nobody was going without care.

    And just because people can’t get insurance through the govt does not mean they can’t get it.

    Are people really so stupid?

    Unfortunately, Yes.

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    Western Chauvinist (View Comment):

    Vance Richards (View Comment):
    Back in say 2010, before Obamacare became law, I don’t recall stumbling over dead bodies as I walked down the street.

    I once pointed this out to a British fellow who has since become a citizen. He wanted to argue with me about people dying under bridges.

    I’ve lost patience with this crap. These people know better (hello… VA healthcare for everyone??), they’re just politically dishonest.

    No, they are just plain dishonest.

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    I am Jack’s complete lack of surprise.

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    Percival (View Comment):

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    Percival (View Comment):

    Jon Gabriel, Ed.: “I want to qualify, I am not an actor.”

    I’ve caught some of Depp’s movies and I’ll vouch for this.

    I take it you didn’t love Mordecai?

    Didn’t see that one. Saw Edward Scissorhands, was dragged to The Lone Ranger, watched part of one of the Pirates movies. That’s it. I must have missed his masterpieces.

    From Hell isn’t bad. The butcher barber one isn’t bad either although I can’t think of the title. He did great in Fear and Loathing but that might not be most people’s cup of tea.

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    In defense of his acting career, Depp is pretty good at portraying a drunken pirate and a mentally impaired teenager (What’s Eating Gilbert Grape)… Oh, wait, he played the brother of DiCaprio’s mentally impaired teenager. Never mind.

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    Robert McReynolds (View Comment):

    Percival (View Comment):

    GroovinDrJarvis (View Comment):

    Percival (View Comment):

    Jon Gabriel, Ed.: “I want to qualify, I am not an actor.”

    I’ve caught some of Depp’s movies and I’ll vouch for this.

    I take it you didn’t love Mordecai?

    Didn’t see that one. Saw Edward Scissorhands, was dragged to The Lone Ranger, watched part of one of the Pirates movies. That’s it. I must have missed his masterpieces.

    From Hell isn’t bad. The butcher barber one isn’t bad either although I can’t think of the title. He did great in Fear and Loathing but that might not be most people’s cup of tea.

    I avoided Fear and Loathing. I liked the book too much. Movies of books I really like rarely live up to expectations.

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    Percival (View Comment):
    I avoided Fear and Loathing. I liked the book too much. Movies of books I really like rarely live up to expectations.

    Give me a glass of ice water. With ice.

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    @robertmcreynolds The butcher barber one isn’t bad either although I can’t think of the title.

    Sweeney Todd:The Demon Barber of Fleet Street

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    Those tweets by Warren, Sanders, and Clinton have really given me a new perspective. They have convinced me that poor people are murderers. Money not paid into the government so they can use it to save lives is blood money. Well if some rich guy paid in $300K in federal income taxes last year and my wife and I paid in less than $5K we are guilty of killing far more people. And the tens of millions of Americans who pay no federal tax at all are the most murderous of all.

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    Percival (View Comment):

    Robert McReynolds (View Comment):

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    I avoided Fear and Loathing. I liked the book too much. Movies of books I really like rarely live up to expectations.

    Oh, see it. Likely the best movie adaptation of a book ever. The movie lets you see more deeply into Duke and His Attorney’s twisted psyches than your imagination can permit

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