A New Democratic Party Vote Mining Initiative?

 

As many of you know, I’m the father of a 24-year old severely Autistic young man who lives with me. My son has always been speech challenged. He is non-conversant and expresses himself with only rudimentary requests. “I want this” or “I want that” or “Disneyland” or “car” or “walk”, or responses like “No, thank you!”, etc. My son enjoys watching YouTube, Disney movies, Star Wars, and the occasional Hitchcock film (especially Vertigo). But he doesn’t understand what happens in the news and certainly doesn’t understand politics. Let’s face it, a lot of us don’t really understand politics either but we do a good job of faking it and get by.

After his eighteenth birthday, I also became my son’s legal conservator (along with my ex-wife) so I could retain certain rights and controls over his well-being – where he lives, his healthcare, managing his day-to-day care in working with caregiving agencies and the local Regional Center, etc. The State of California, through the probate court system, checks in with my son’s welfare every few years by sending out an investigator from the public defender’s office prior to a scheduled court hearing in front of a judge. This is generally a good thing to make sure that individuals in the Special Needs community are being well-cared for and not abused.

During the visit, the investigator asks various questions about my son’s health, his doctors, his medications, checks out his bedroom and then asks my son the occasional question which he replies with an unintelligible response or by completely ignoring the investigator.

Prior to the court hearing, I am sent the investigator’s written report that will be reviewed by the judge. Here are a few of the questions asked and what was checked for my son’s response (I’ve bolded what the investigator checked):

Advisement:

When informed that he is under a conservatorship and told the name of the conservator(s), the conservatee

Made no intelligible response

Replied:___________________________________

Did not respond in any manner

When asked if he wished to continue to be under conservatorship, the conservatee:

Made no intelligible response

Replied:___________________________________

Did not respond in any manner

Here’s where it gets interesting:

Voting Rights:

The conservatee is able to communicate a desire to participate in the voting process

Yes

No

This is a change from previous recommendations/status

Comments: The conservatee is verbal and able to express a desire to participate in the voting process.

Needless to say, the information under the Voting Rights section is false and a complete fabrication…especially since I was in the room and this question was never asked of my son. If it had been asked, my son would have been non-responsive, would have responded unintelligibly or would have asked to go to Disneyland.

Unfortunately, my son doesn’t have a clue what it means to vote or what the words “ballot”, “politics”, “elections”, “candidates”, “mayors”, “governors”, “senators”, “congress”, “measures” or even “judge” mean. In a voting booth, my son would be apt to destroy the machine once he found that it couldn’t do much other than let him spin the dial around and around. It wouldn’t be pretty.

So, I called the investigator on it and her response was essentially that this is how the court wants the information to be filled in. I asked her if this was a new Democratic Party Get Out The Vote initiative. She laughed. I told her I was concerned that an absentee ballot would be issued in my son’s name. She replied that I shouldn’t be concerned.

Look it’s clear that there are millions of voters who are more intellectually endowed than my son…but there are also millions of voters who haven’t a clue about current events, history, the American Idea, the Constitution, the law, what it means to mishandle top secret documents or lie to Congress or the FBI, or have a clue about any of the candidates they vote for or issues that they vote on. How else does one explain Maxine Waters or the popular vote for Hillary Clinton? Of course, my son does know quite a bit more about life and current events than the thousands of deceased Democrat voters who continue to vote in successive elections. So, there is that.

I’ll be visiting the court on Tuesday with my son and look forward to bringing this topic up with the judge. Perhaps the judge would like to ask my son directly whether he wants to vote. That will be fun.

There are 46 comments.

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  1. GrannyDude Member

    Bless you and your son. I share a little bit of your experience, and the irrationality and general goofiness (an occasional mindless cruelty) of the official System can make you…crazy.

    I’ve learned a lot more about autism since being a chaplain, because autistic kids are among our likely-t0-wander-off-and-get-lost populations. I’m sure you already know this, but it’s worth having spread a little more widely; when an autistic kid is missing, it’s an emergency because they tend to go toward water. 

    So don’t fiddle around.

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    • June 23, 2017, at 3:32 PM PDT
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  2. MLH Inactive
    MLH

    What the. . . !

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    • June 23, 2017, at 3:34 PM PDT
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  3. Kevin Schulte Member

    Bless you and your son Brian. I believe your suspicions on vote mining is spot on. They don’t need your son’s vote out in California. However, since he is a live person with a provable address. Can he cast an absentee ballot in another state. All’s it would take is an apparatchik in cahoots from another state to create a principal residence in said state. Seems it would be impossible to detect. Just thinking out loud. My God if the dems are doing this on a national level with millions of people, what an evil scandal.

    The left knows no bounds in their quest for Utopia.

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    • June 23, 2017, at 4:04 PM PDT
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  4. Brian Watt Member
    Brian Watt Post author

    Kate Braestrup (View Comment):
    Bless you and your son. I share a little bit of your experience, and the irrationality and general goofiness (an occasional mindless cruelty) of the official System can make you…crazy.

    I’ve learned a lot more about autism since being a chaplain, because autistic kids are among our likely-t0-wander-off-and-get-lost populations. I’m sure you already know this, but it’s worth having spread a little more widely; when an autistic kid is missing, it’s an emergency because they tend to go toward water.

    So don’t fiddle around.

    Yes, I’m quite familiar with the elopement issue. Please see the following Ricochet posts. Cheers:

    https://ricochet.com/archives/caring-for-my-bengal-tiger/

    https://ricochet.com/archives/the-boy-who-lived-part-one-escaping/

    https://ricochet.com/archives/the-boy-who-lived-part-two-flying/

    https://ricochet.com/archives/the-boy-who-lived-part-three-more-escapes/

    https://ricochet.com/archives/fiction-the-elopement/

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    • June 23, 2017, at 4:04 PM PDT
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  5. GLDIII Temporarily Essential Thatcher

    100% voter ID, it’s more than a good idea, it should be a Federal law.

    I know many non US citizens that have driver license, (think foreign nannies) Typically this is the only thing that might be asked for at states that have voter ID requirements. At least if some one shows up and is properly ID’ed and is not a citizen they can be more readily prosecuted later.

    Do this a few dozen time and publicize it and it might be a good deterrent.

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    • June 23, 2017, at 4:07 PM PDT
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  6. Susan Quinn Contributor

    I hope you will update us on the judge’s response. Why do I think he will just say meh? I truly hope I’m wrong, but what you’re describing is just one more abuse of the system. And it amuses them to do it. Thank you for being such a dedicated father, Brian.

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    • June 23, 2017, at 4:33 PM PDT
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  7. Nanda "Chaps" Panjan… Inactive

    Blessings on you and the aforementioned Bengal Tiger! That said, the special needs community is ripe for voter fraud: So glad you’ve brought this forward…Hugs from a Panda!

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    • June 23, 2017, at 4:52 PM PDT
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  8. Doug Watt Member

    Interesting in light of the fact that the California ballot could be a model for Venezuela. Republicans have been effectively banned from being placed on the ballot. Of course the other problem is that it is a state document that contains a false statement from a state employee. In Oregon that is a Class C Felony whether it is done by a private citizen or a state employee.

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    • June 23, 2017, at 5:21 PM PDT
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  9. drlorentz Member

    Brian Watt: So, I called the investigator on it and her response was essentially that this is how the court wants the information to be filled in.

    Sorry, but I’m confused by this sentence. Are you saying that the investigator admitted to lying in the report? If so, then we have crossed over to where government officials are not even embarrassed by their illegal behavior.

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    • June 23, 2017, at 5:46 PM PDT
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  10. Brian Watt Member
    Brian Watt Post author

    drlorentz (View Comment):

    Brian Watt: So, I called the investigator on it and her response was essentially that this is how the court wants the information to be filled in.

    Sorry, but I’m confused by this sentence. Are you saying that the investigator admitted to lying in the report? If so, then we have crossed over to where government officials are not even embarrassed by their illegal behavior.

    Yes, it would appear that is the case. This wouldn’t be the first time a court investigator lied on a report submitted to the judge. Three years ago the investigator from the public defender’s office reported that they had interviewed my son. They had not. But just to be sure, I checked with my son’s caregivers (in case someone had stopped by the house while I was at work) and also with his school (he was enrolled in an adult transition program at our local community college for special needs young adults).

    I asked his instructor at the college who ran the program whether anyone had come on campus to speak with my son or interview him. His instructor replied that no one had interviewed my son and that if someone had tried to he would have prevented access to him and he would have phoned me immediately to let me know.

    This is what I have to deal with. Investigators from the public defender’s office are, it is my understanding, officers of the court. If they are submitting false information to the court, my guess is they could lose their law license and may even face jail time. My attorney at the time advised me not to bring up the matter (since she represented other clients often before the same judge). I let it go but depending on the response I get this coming Tuesday I may bring up the previous fabrication.

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    • June 23, 2017, at 5:57 PM PDT
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  11. Percival Thatcher

    Raise a stink, Brian.

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    • June 23, 2017, at 5:59 PM PDT
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  12. I Walton Member

    After the next election can you find out if your son voted? Never heard of this approach to vote mining before but it’s a natural as there is little danger that the real voter will turn up. It requires broader and deeper corruption than just local party apparatus and if true should be uncovered with broad a priori information about this unique population voting.

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    • June 23, 2017, at 7:20 PM PDT
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  13. JcTPatriot Inactive

    My heart goes out to you, Brian. I cannot imagine.

    In the primaries a few months ago that led to Tuesday’s special election for Georgia’s House seat 06, I posted an article where the MSM followed a guy who went to vote, found the doors locked, banged on the doors for a while (he was very angry that he was being disenfranchised) and finally called to find out why he couldn’t vote. After being transferred around, he was finally told that he didn’t live in the district that was voting. His Democrat masters told him to go vote, so he did. He didn’t have any idea for whom he was voting, he just knew to look for the ‘D’ when he pulled the lever.

    Your story reminded me of that Georgia voter. By the way, they reported hundreds in that District who did the same thing, and hundreds of others who lived in the wrong district, but went to the voting Districts to try to vote.

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    • June 23, 2017, at 7:25 PM PDT
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  14. Nanda "Chaps" Panjan… Inactive

    FNC’s Eric Shawn has done several investigative pieces (over the past couple national election cycles) on vulnerable young adults – and elderly patients with dementia in facilities – being coached when ‘voting’.

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    • June 23, 2017, at 7:27 PM PDT
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  15. Percival Thatcher

    Nanda Panjandrum (View Comment):
    FNC’s Eric Shawn has done several investigative pieces (over the past couple national election cycles) on vulnerable young adults – and elderly patients with dementia in facilities – being coached when ‘voting’.

    My dad visits nursing homes to help people vote. Absolutely no coaching, though. In fact, that led to a somewhat funny incident back in 2012 when one woman insisted on voting for Obama for every race on the ballot.

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    • June 23, 2017, at 7:46 PM PDT
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  16. DocJay Inactive

    Goodness. I anticipate he will be voting for at least 150 years.

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    • June 23, 2017, at 8:28 PM PDT
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  17. MJBubba Inactive

    Last year, a couple of weeks before our primary, I dropped into the group home to spend some time with Dad. He had on an “I voted” sticker. I asked him about voting. He was pleased that he got to vote, but was disappointed that they had not loaded up in the shuttle bus and had not gone to the early voting polling place. The staff had helped them all fill in absentee ballots.

    This was after the big stroke. Dad might have known about the presidential race but I am confident that he knew nothing about the other races. The same could be said about a dozen other residents who were sporting “I voted” stickers that day.

    I bet 90 % of the caretaker staff members at assisted living homes and nursing homes are Democrats. There is plenty of opportunity for mischief.

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    • June 23, 2017, at 8:56 PM PDT
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  18. Kozak Member

    Brian Watt: So, I called the investigator on it and her response was essentially that this is how the court wants the information to be filled in. I asked her if this was a new Democratic Party Get Out The Vote initiative. She laughed.

    Not new. In Wisconsin it was common practice for Democratic operatives to go around to group homes to “help” the occupants fill out their ballots. They were caught actually filling in the absentee ballots themselves. Just disgusting.

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    • June 23, 2017, at 11:23 PM PDT
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  19. Kozak Member

    GLDIII (View Comment):
    100% voter ID, it’s more than a good idea, it should be a Federal law.

    I know many non US citizens that have driver license, (think foreign nannies) Typically this is the only thing that might be asked for at states that have voter ID requirements. At least if some one shows up and is properly ID’ed and is not a citizen they can be more readily prosecuted later.

    Do this a few dozen time and publicize it and it might be a good deterrent.

    Motor Voter. When you get your DL automatically registered to vote. Of course you have to say you are a citizen, but the law was written to ensure no one would actually check to see if that was true or not, all based on the honor system.

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    • June 23, 2017, at 11:44 PM PDT
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  20. Cyrano Inactive

    The investigator may have interpreted the word “Disneyland” as a desire to register as a Democrat and vote the straight party ticket.

    More seriously, best wishes, you are a great man.

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    • June 24, 2017, at 5:31 AM PDT
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  21. Doctor Robert Member

    At the Mass DMV in Chicopee, around August 15 2016, I witnessed a social worker bring in three of her clients to get identification cards for voting. The people were in wheelchairs, drooling, hunched over, non communicative. All had their photos taken and cards issued.

    My cousin Jonny, born with Down’s Syndrome, is of course retarded and modestly physically handicapped. He has been a registered voter in CT since 1991 and votes regularly.

    I don’t understand how any of this is possible.

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    • June 24, 2017, at 6:25 AM PDT
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  22. Addiction Is A Choice Member

    Doctor Robert (View Comment):
    At the Mass DMV in Chicopee, around August 15 2016, I witnessed a social worker bring in three of her clients to get identification cards for voting. The people were in wheelchairs, drooling, hunched over, non communicative. All had their photos taken and cards issued.

    My cousin Jonny, born with Down’s Syndrome, is of course retarded and modestly physically handicapped. He has been a registered voter in CT since 1991 and votes regularly.

    I don’t understand how any of this is possible.

    Probably just another instance of Democrats “giving voice to the voice-less.” What do you want to bet that the political preferences of the “voice-less” match perfectly with those giving them voice? Funny how that works!

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    • June 24, 2017, at 9:21 AM PDT
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  23. Nanda "Chaps" Panjan… Inactive

    Hey, All! Thanks for the reminder to get my non-driver’s ID renewed this week…Whew! :-)

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    • June 24, 2017, at 11:03 AM PDT
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  24. Jules PA Member

    Percival (View Comment):
    Raise a stink, Brian.

    I’m sorry you’re facing this, but pursue it. As far as you are able.

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  25. Theodoric of Freiberg Member

    From now on, I would suggest videoing the entire interview just to be sure this kind of thing doesn’t happen again.

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    • June 24, 2017, at 4:16 PM PDT
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  26. Kevin Schulte Member

    Theodoric of Freiberg (View Comment):
    From now on, I would suggest videoing the entire interview just to be sure this kind of thing doesn’t happen again.

    This is so good. Gov and private organizations are always recording us. Time for us to start recording them, especially the Gov

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    • June 24, 2017, at 6:31 PM PDT
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  27. Pugshot Member

    Kevin Schulte

    Theodoric of Freiberg (View Comment):

    From now on, I would suggest videoing the entire interview just to be sure this kind of thing doesn’t happen again.

    This is so good. Gov and private organizations are always recording us. Time for us to start recording them, especially the Gov

    I’d check the law first – especially in California. Many jurisdictions will not permit recording (or videotaping) someone without their consent. And while the CA courts would probably let the social worker’s lying about an interview slide, you can bet they’d come down like the proverbial ton of bricks on someone who had the temerity to videotape or record an unwilling (or unknowing) subject.

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  28. Joe P Member

    Pugshot (View Comment):

    Kevin Schulte

    Theodoric of Freiberg (View Comment):

    From now on, I would suggest videoing the entire interview just to be sure this kind of thing doesn’t happen again.

    This is so good. Gov and private organizations are always recording us. Time for us to start recording them, especially the Gov

    I’d check the law first – especially in California. Many jurisdictions will not permit recording (or videotaping) someone without their consent. And while the CA courts would probably let the social worker’s lying about an interview slide, you can bet they’d come down like the proverbial ton of bricks on someone who had the temerity to videotape or record an unwilling (or unknowing) subject.

    Then ask for consent. If they say no, ask them to leave.

    The alternative might be to have a lawyer present during the interview.

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  29. Brian Watt Member
    Brian Watt Post author

    Joe P (View Comment):

    Pugshot (View Comment):

    Kevin Schulte

    Theodoric of Freiberg (View Comment):

    From now on, I would suggest videoing the entire interview just to be sure this kind of thing doesn’t happen again.

    This is so good. Gov and private organizations are always recording us. Time for us to start recording them, especially the Gov

    I’d check the law first – especially in California. Many jurisdictions will not permit recording (or videotaping) someone without their consent. And while the CA courts would probably let the social worker’s lying about an interview slide, you can bet they’d come down like the proverbial ton of bricks on someone who had the temerity to videotape or record an unwilling (or unknowing) subject.

    Then ask for consent. If they say no, ask them to leave.

    The alternative might be to have a lawyer present during the interview.

    I have a witness to the exchange between the investigator and my son. His caregiver. He will be in court as well to help me manage my son’s behavior.

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  30. Brian Watt Member
    Brian Watt Post author

    My written statement that will be presented to the judge and to the Public Defender’s office at the court hearing:

    To:

    The Superior Court of California

    County of Orange

    Probate Court Services

    Case Number: XX-XXXX-XXXXXXXX-XX-XX-XXX

    On June 2, 2017, XXXXX XXXXXX, a court investigator visited my home to interview me and my speech and mentally-challenged Autistic son, XXX who is my conservatee. In the course of the interview, I related my son’s health status, his current medications and his general behavior. My son was out with his caregiver at the time of Ms. XXXXX’s arrival but I phoned his caregiver and asked him to return with my son, so she could also meet and ask questions of him.

    When Ms. XXXXXX met my son she asked him a few questions all of which he replied with either unintelligible answers or without responding at all. At no time during this interview was my son asked about his desire to vote. Had he been asked, his response would more than likely have been unintelligible or again non-responsive. My son does not know what it means to vote. He is a non-conversant, mentally-challenged young adult and in 24 years, has shown absolutely no interest in news, current events, politics, or the law and is unable to communicate any thoughts regarding these topics.

    When I received by mail, the investigator’s report, I was shocked to find that under the Voting Rights section, my son was described as expressing a desire to participate in the voting process, and that this was a “change from previous recommendation/status” and that the conservatee was described as “verbal and able to express a desire to participate in the voting process.”

    This information is categorically false on all counts. This question was never asked of my son. Again, during the entire course of the interview with him, my son was either non-responsive or made unintelligible answers to questions posed to him.

    As his conservator, I am deeply disturbed that the court inspector or the Public Defender’s office would fabricate this false information and present it as a true and factual account to the court.

    I would think and hope that the court would be greatly concerned that an individual in my son’s mental condition would be characterized as somehow “verbal” and expressing a desire to vote. This sort of fabrication is quite disturbing and it’s my sincere hope that others in the same essential mental state as my son aren’t also being falsely characterized by officers of the court as expressing a desire to vote when they clearly are not able to express this desire at all, like my son, or even what it means to vote. The implications of potential voter fraud, using my son’s personal information and this false documented record should be of concern to the court.

    As his conservator, I request that this information be corrected to state that my son has expressed no desire to participate in the voting process.

    Sincerely,

    Brian Watt, parent and conservator of XXX Watt

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