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Is It Possible to Just Calm Down?
I don’t see the MSM, but I see it reflected on the pages of Ricochet. Tensions are through the roof, and mostly because Trump has been doing what we basically expected him to be doing: saying all kinds of stuff, and ignoring the way “things are supposed to be done.”
Let’s all judge Trump by his deeds, not his words. The agenda is what matters, and while it (tax reform, health care, de-regulation, etc.) seems to be stalled at present, I remind all and sundry that the alternative was Hillary Clinton.
Today the alternative is not Mike Pence, because an MSM-led removal of Trump would cripple all proposed reforms of things that desperately need reform. The basic question today is whether or not the good and substantive parts of the agenda can gain adherents in Congress.
To that end, can we Ricochetti stop marching in lockstep either for or against the MSM media? The idiots who run them are best ignored. We should not let them frame the debate.
Actions, not words.
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Good to see you have cut down on the caffeine, Pseudo.
High Fives Matter.
I’d wait a few years before calling either of those things a win. I’m very optimistic on both counts (more so than I was before the election), but Justices can suprise you and regulations can be re-introduced by pen-and-phone-power just as easily as they can be removed.
I agree, but we’re not going to get either of them if Trump keeps making entirely unforced errors, which this Comey mess qualifies as. It’s not going to be enough to say he’s better than Hillary; he already beat her like a dusty old carpet. He’s going to have to make a pitch for beating Democrats in Congress during the midterms and whoever his opponents will be in 2020 if he runs again. He needs to actually focus on accomplishing those things and not do other things to screw them up.
Who are you describing as “my own people”? I live in the United States of America, where only 70,000 people made the difference between who won and lost in the election, and they are by no means certain to vote for Trump again in the future.
As for human nature, people generally take the certain bet with known risks over the risky bet that could be better. In 2016, Trump was the risky bet, but everyone knew with certaintly that Hillary was uniquely awful. Regardless of who the Democrats put up, you can’t expect that person will be certainly worse than Hillary, and if Trump keeps making dumb mistakes that subvert his own agenda, it’s going to be easy to present the challenger as a safer bet than he is.
I believe that to be “treacherous” let us strive for accuracy here.
I sit corrected.
FWIW, that’s what I remember as well.
We need deeds to do that. So far all we have is Gorsuch and an Obamacare “repeal” that doesn’t actually repeal much of anything.
Who cares? Hillary Clinton hasn’t been relevant since November of last year. Trump is President, and he needs to be judged on his own merits.
Fixed it for you.
I know a man who divorced his first wife. After a time he remarried her. When asked why, he replied, “As a first wife, she was not great. But as second wives go, she was quite good.”
You didn’t miss all the obstruction of his cabinet appointments and all the wasted efforts related to a ‘Russia’ investigation that has yet to yield a single ‘fact’ that shows an investigation is warranted?
I saw this last night and didn’t respond, hoping it would make more sense to me in the a.m. It doesn’t.
If there’s a point beyond the obvious (I know that Trump is not your president) I’d love an explanation.
No. Everything must be at 11.
[Disclaimer: I have not yet formed an opinion on this latest round of stuff.]
That’s part of what matters — a very big, very important part — but it’s not the only thing.
I whole heartedly agree that everyone should chill until we have a better idea what’s going on.
I suspect you won’t be satisfied with it, Annefy, but I’ll try. In one sense, when I married my husband, I vowed to accept him wholeheartedly. He wasn’t perfect, and for a very brief time I hoped he’d change in some ways. I woke up fast, realizing that I chose the whole package, that I picked a good and loving man, and he’s actually grown into more than the man I married.
A president is different. I didn’t choose him (as it turns out), but he was elected. He represents hundreds of thousands of people and I feel I’m entitled to expect him to meet a minimal level of decorum and character. I’ve seen some of that from him; I’ve also seen boorish behavior, poor judgment, and confusion. And no, I’m not going to list examples; you can review my OP on the Main Feed. I understand you think I’m being petty, to hold such high expectations of the president. I think as @iwe does that actions are critically important. But many of Trump’s day-to-day actions are driven by his lack of character. I don’t expect him to change, either. But he’s not my partner for life.
You may have to go to some Democrats to get guidance. Republicans don’t have nearly enough experience and expertise in dealing with the lack of character issues. This is routine for Democrats.
I’m throwing a couple of flags on this reply, Susan.
First: Time enough to refuse to make a list after the list has been requested.
Second: I in no way meant that Trump was your partner for life. What I meant was having realistic expectations about improvements you can expect.
Third: “I understand you think I’m being petty, to hold such high expectations of the president.” You don’t know me well to know what I feel or think. If I feel like sharing, I will.
Also a brain registry.
I am not old enough to have been able to vote for Reagan. I can say that I have never had a President that I choose.
My problem here is that your complaint is not an unknown issue. By that I mean Trump was not seen to be a stellar example of decorum and character before the election. The voters who elected him were well aware that there were questions about his character and ability to conform to proper decorum. He is the same person now that he was when they voted for him.
Many of Trumps day to day actions may not be to your liking. But none of the stuff that would seem to be bothering you affects my day to day life at all. My life is no worse because Trump says stupid things sometimes.
It’s quite clear that we as a group do not march in lockstep. There’s a considerable range of opinions here; in fact, it’s become a common refrain that there are too many opinions. I’m not even sure what you’re asking us to do. Stop responding to news? Ignore information?
As long as Trump is president, people are going to react to what he says, because what he says matters, even if he and you don’t think so.
Why are people working so darned hard to keep Mike Pence out of the Presidency?
How does this Trump character engender so much loyalty from good people? People for which he feels nothing in return?
Because literally dumping Trump, as opposed to merely distancing ourselves from him, would be strategically idiotic, not just because you’d hork off Trump’s base, but you’d send a signal to the center that the GOP is too useless to manage its own affairs. We can’t bank on the Dems gifting us Jimmy Carter a second time.
Trump is making progress on deregulation with some help from Congress. Tax reform is slowly making progress in Congress and the Senate is working on healthcare reform thanks to the House getting started on that job with help from Trump. The policies might be being ignored by the MSM and Trump certainly is distracting them with his whining about coverage.
Then again Trump may be purposely distracting them from Congressional progress with his tweets.
I couldn’t agree with you more, Tom.
The worst for me is the Editors rushing every Fake News story to the Main Feed the moment it happens and asking, “Can we impeach him now, can we?” and never stopping to wonder if the story has any truth to it. Makes me sick.
How does conservative SCOTUS majority for a generation sound to you? It’s not sexy, but it’s got teeth that bite every year in the summer doldrums.
Him – Her = SCOTUS majority
It’s been so long since I heard a Dem accuse us of killing sick people. Maybe getting out from under the microscope will help congressional Republicans get some actual work done. Maybe screaming about made up controversies wasn’t the way for Dem’s to win the White House and isn’t the way for them to win congressional majorities. But those who insist on being depressed should feel free to do so.
We need a Pun Registry.
If puns are outlawed, only outlaws will have puns.
Concur.