Time for Trump to Resign

 

The nearly four weeks since President Donald Trump’s inauguration have been the most divisive period of American politics since the end of the Second World War. The sharp lines that everyone is drawing in the sand pose a serious threat to the United States. On the one side stand many conservatives and populists who are rejoicing in the Trump victory as the salvation of a nation in decline. On other side sit the committed progressives who are still smarting from an election in which they were trounced in the electoral college, even as Hillary Clinton garnered a clear majority of the popular vote.

As a classical liberal who did not vote for either candidate, I stand in opposition to both groups. And after assessing Trump’s performance during the first month of his presidency, I think it is clear that he ought to resign. However, it important to cut through the partisan hysteria to identify both what Trump is doing right and wrong in order to explain my assessment of his presidency to date.

On the positive side is the simple fact that Trump won the election. What is right about Trump is what was wrong with Clinton—her promise to continue, and even expand, the policies of the Obama administration. The day after the election, it was clear that none of her policy proposals would be implemented under a Trump presidency, coupled with a Republican Congress. As I have long argued, there are good reasons to critique the progressive world view. Progressives believe that reduced levels of taxation and a strong dose of deregulation would do little or nothing to advance economic growth. In their view, only monetary and fiscal policy matter for dealing with sluggish growth, so they fashion policy on the giddy assumption that their various schemes to advance union power, consumer protection, environmental, insurance, and financial market regulation—among others—only affect matters of distribution and fairness, but will have no discernible effect on economic growth. In making this assumption, they assume, as did many socialists and New Dealers in the 1930s, that it is possible to partition questions of justice and redistribution from those of economic prosperity.

In taking this position, they fail to account for how administrative costs, major uncertainty, and distorted incentives affect capital formation, product innovation, and job creation. Instead, today’s progressives have their own agenda for wealth creation that includes such remedies as a $15 minimum wage, stronger union protections, and an equal pay law with genuine bite. But these policies will necessarily reduce growth by imposing onerous barriers on voluntary exchange. The fact that there was any economic growth at all under the Obama administration—and even then, it was faltering and anemic—had one cause: the Republican Congress that blocked the implementation of further progressive policies and advanced a pro-growth agenda.

Sadly, both President Obama and his various administrative heads pushed hard on the regulatory levers that were still available to them. And so we got a Department of Labor (DOL) decision to raise the exemption levels under the Fair Labor Standards Act from just over $23,000 to just over $47,000, in ways that would have disrupted, without question, several major segments of the economy for whom the statutory definition of an hour does not serve as a workable measure of account. Thus, at one stroke, DOL compromised the status of graduate students, whose studies and work are often inseparable; of tech employees, whose compensation often comes in the form of deferred stock payments; and of gig workers, who are employed by the job and not the hour. At the same time, the general counsel of the National Labor Relations Board has taken steps to wreck highly successful, long-term franchising arrangements, by announcing henceforth that the franchisor may on a case-by-case basis be treated as an employer subject to the collective bargaining obligations of the NLRA. These, and similar decisions, are acts of wealth destruction, and they offer one powerful explanation, among many, for the decline in the labor participation rate to its lowest levels since World War II.

The misguided opposition to the Trump administration extends far more broadly. I was an advisor to the MAIN coalition (Midwest Alliance for Infrastructure Now) in the now successful effort to undo the roadblocks that the Obama administration put in the path of the Dakota Access Pipeline, and still find it incomprehensible that any administration could engage in a set of collusive rearguard actions to block a pipeline that met or exceeded every government standard in terms of need, safety, and historical and environmental protection. The handwringing of the Obama administration over the Keystone XL pipeline was equally inexcusable. Two expertly crafted executive orders from the Trump administration removed the roadblocks simply by allowing the standard review processes of the Army Corps of Engineers and other agencies to run their course. Nonetheless, virtually every initiative to deregulate that comes from the Trump administration is greeted with howls of protest, whether the topic be healthcare, banking, brokerage, or consumer protection. Yet these very deregulations explain why the stock market has surged: collectively, they will help revive a stagnant economy.

Worse still are the attacks on the integrity and independence of Judge Neil Gorsuch from most, but not all, progressives. Georgetown University’s Neal Katyal should be singled out for his praise of Gorsuch as a person and a judge. Unfortunately, the vast majority of progressives, like Senate Minority Leader Charles Schumer, wail that Gorsuch is not a mainstream judge, is not sufficiently supportive of progressive ideals, and, most critically, is not Judge Merrick Garland. The United States sails in treacherous waters when members of either party think that any judge appointed by the opposition is not fit for service on the United States Supreme Court unless he publicly denounces the President who nominated him for that high office. I have long believed that any nominee should be judged on his or her record, without being called on to play rope-a-dope before hostile senators who only wish to bait, trap, and embarrass the nominee.

It seems clear that if President Trump went about his job in a statesmanlike manner, the progressive counterattack would surely fail, and a sane Republican party could gain the support of a dominant share of the electorate for at least the next two election cycles, if not more.

Yet there are deeper problems, because President Trump’s anti-free trade agenda will hurt—if not devastate—the very people whom he wants to help. Extensive trade between the United States and Mexico is indispensable for the prosperity of both countries. The looming trade war threatens that win/win position. The notion that the United States should run positive trade balances with every country is an absurd position to take in international economic relations, lest every country has the right to claim the same preferred status for itself. Yet it has never occurred to Trump that a negative trade balance amounts to a vote of confidence by other countries that it is safe to invest in the United States, allowing the United States to create new industries and new jobs. Nor does he understand that any effort to be successful in the export market requires importing cheap components from foreign firms—an oversight evident from his ill-conceived executive order calling, whenever legal, for American pipe on an American pipelines. If our trade partners retaliate, the current stock market surge will take on a different complexion. The Dow may be high, but the variation in future prices will be high as well. If Congress thwarts his anti-trade agenda, the domestic reforms should yield lasting benefits. If Congress caves, or if Trump works by aggressive executive order, the entire system could come tumbling down.

Speaking of executive orders, the President’s hasty and disastrous order dealing with immigrants has vast implications for America’s position in the world. In a global economy, the United States cannot afford to let petty protectionism keep the best talent from coming here for education and staying later for work. I, for one, believe that his executive order exceeds his executive powers. Others, like Michael McConnell, disagree. But no matter which way one comes down on its legality, nothing excuses its faulty rollout, petty nationalism, exaggerated fears of terrorism, and disruptive economic effects. The Trump administration agenda desperately needs to be rethought from the ground up by a deliberative process in which the President relies on his Cabinet.

So the question remains: does Trump remain his own worst enemy? My fears are that he is too rigid and too uneducated to make the necessary shift to good leadership. By taking foolish and jingoist stances, Trump has done more than any other human being alive today to bring a sensible classical liberal agenda into disrepute. Then there is the matter of his character. The personal moral failings of the President include his vicious tweets, his self-righteous attitude, his shameless self-promotion, his petty resentments, his immoral flirtation with Vladimir Putin, his nonstop denigration of federal judges, his jawboning of American businesses, his predilection for conspiracy theories, his reliance on alternative facts, and his vindictive behavior toward his political opponents.

Hence, I think that there is ample reason to call for Trump’s resignation, even though I know full well that my advice will not be heeded. And this welcome outcome will not happen so long as the attack against him comes solely from progressive Democrats. Sensible Republicans should focus on the threat that he represents to their plan, and recall that the alternative is no longer Hillary Clinton, but Mike Pence. I think that Pence is unlikely to abandon the positive aspects of the Trump agenda, and there is some reason to hope that he will back off Trump’s suicidal positions on trade and immigration, and put a stop to the endless train of uncivil behaviors demeaning the office of the President. Some miracles happen, but a Trump transformation will not be one of them. Unfortunately, his excesses could power a progressive revival. Would that I had the power to say to Trump, “You’re fired!”

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    RightAngles (View Comment):
    Our Main Feed continues to be polluted with this kind of tripe. I don’t enjoy Ricochet so much anymore. This post could have been written by – pick a Lefty, any Lefty.

    Last time I ever read Epstein.  No point.

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    RightAngles (View Comment):
    Our Main Feed continues to be polluted with this kind of tripe. I don’t enjoy Ricochet so much anymore. This post could have been written by – pick a Lefty, any Lefty.

    Who says it wasn’t?

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    Come on guys. Don’t leave! Write your own stuff! We will upvote it! Plurality of opinion is the best way to defeat elitism.

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    “I’m just a common man, drive a common van
    My dog ain’t got a pedigree
    If I have my say, it’s gonna stay that way
    ‘Cause high-browed people lose their sanity…”

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    Mike LaRoche (View Comment):
    “I’m just a common man, drive a common van
    My dog ain’t got a pedigree
    If I have my say, it’s gonna stay that way
    ‘Cause high-browed people lose their sanity…”

    Mighty fine tune.

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    Mike LaRoche (View Comment):
    “I’m just a common man, drive a common van
    My dog ain’t got a pedigree
    If I have my say, it’s gonna stay that way
    ‘Cause high-browed people lose their sanity…”

    Mighty fine tune.

    Indeed. Conlee has an incredible voice.

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  7. RightAngles Member
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    dittoheadadt (View Comment):

    RightAngles (View Comment):
    Our Main Feed continues to be polluted with this kind of tripe. I don’t enjoy Ricochet so much anymore. This post could have been written by – pick a Lefty, any Lefty.

    Who says it wasn’t?

    Ha @dittoheadadt

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  8. Umbra Fractus Inactive
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    dittoheadadt (View Comment):

    RightAngles (View Comment):
    Our Main Feed continues to be polluted with this kind of tripe. I don’t enjoy Ricochet so much anymore. This post could have been written by – pick a Lefty, any Lefty.

    Who says it wasn’t?

    At least three decades of dedicated small-l libertarian activism on the part of the author.

    It’s really sad how a negative attitude toward one man is now enough to get people who’ve been fighting progressivism since many of us were in diapers labeled as, “Lefties.”

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  9. Jamie Lockett Member
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    billy (View Comment):
    Look I will just cancel my membership. Ricochet has become a boring and fruitless conversation.

    Did you think you were helping change that?

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  10. dittoheadadt Inactive
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    Umbra Fractus (View Comment):

    dittoheadadt (View Comment):

    RightAngles (View Comment):
    Our Main Feed continues to be polluted with this kind of tripe. I don’t enjoy Ricochet so much anymore. This post could have been written by – pick a Lefty, any Lefty.

    Who says it wasn’t?

    At least three decades of dedicated small-l libertarian activism on the part of the author.

    He didn’t write it three decades ago.  Three decades ago John McCain was a conservative. Three decades ago Jesse Jackson was pro-life.

    And besides, it was sarcasm.  Is that still allowed here?  (Was it ever??)

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    Umbra Fractus (View Comment):

    dittoheadadt (View Comment):

    RightAngles (View Comment):
    Our Main Feed continues to be polluted with this kind of tripe. I don’t enjoy Ricochet so much anymore. This post could have been written by – pick a Lefty, any Lefty.

    Who says it wasn’t?

    At least three decades of dedicated small-l libertarian activism on the part of the author.

    It’s really sad how a negative attitude toward one man is now enough to get people who’ve been fighting progressivism since many of us were in diapers labeled as, “Lefties.”

    Well, let me ask you this:  Who would agree with the OP more – Democrats or Republicans?

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    Umbra Fractus (View Comment):

    At least three decades of dedicated small-l libertarian activism on the part of the author.

    It’s really sad how a negative attitude toward one man is now enough to get people who’ve been fighting progressivism since many of us were in diapers labeled as, “Lefties.”

    Indeed.  I do not agree with Epstein’s conclusion for a wide range of reasons, but he prefaced his conclusion by repeatedly burnishing his own bona fides with regards to regulation and economics.  A leftist would have instead written a screed about how Trump was going to undo the legacy of the sainted Obama, revoke healthcare to millions of the poor, and ship Muslims off to concentration camps.

    Instead Epstein reserves his criticisms entirely to two issues: temperament and protectionism.

    Now mind you I think Epstein entirely underestimates the damage such an early resignation would do to Republicans and Conservatives – the Left would only be emboldened to continue rioting and litigating, spreading the myth of their own numbers and power.  By staying in office, despite the ongoing leftist lunacy, Trump is instead showing them for the anarchists they really are.  But if Trump resigns, Pence would be effectively neutered for the remainder of the term as the Left would only then switch to removing all legitimacy from Pence.  There is no way to estimate the chaos that would come.

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    dittoheadadt (View Comment):

    Well, let me ask you this: Who would agree with the OP more – Democrats or Republicans?

    Which part?  The first 2/3 would make any Dem blanche with anger.

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    dittoheadadt (View Comment):
    He didn’t write it three decades ago. Three decades ago John McCain was a conservative. Three decades ago Jesse Jackson was pro-life.

    McCain has been drifting for long time, and Jackson was always obviously mercenary.  Has Epstein drifted from his principles, or changed his core beliefs to suit new audiences?

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    dittoheadadt (View Comment):

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    dittoheadadt (View Comment):

    RightAngles (View Comment):
    Our Main Feed continues to be polluted with this kind of tripe. I don’t enjoy Ricochet so much anymore. This post could have been written by – pick a Lefty, any Lefty.

    Who says it wasn’t?

    At least three decades of dedicated small-l libertarian activism on the part of the author.

    It’s really sad how a negative attitude toward one man is now enough to get people who’ve been fighting progressivism since many of us were in diapers labeled as, “Lefties.”

    Well, let me ask you this: Who would agree with the OP more – Democrats or Republicans?

    Who cares? Are the arguments sound or not? Is there truth to the piece? Let’s discuss that, that’s what we used to do around here. Now people would rather score cheap ad hominem points about the alleged sanity of one of the greatest legal minds in the country instead of addressing the arguments. It’s mystifying – if the arguments made here are so awful, as alleged by countless “civil” members – why have only a handful actually tried to wrestle with them.

    It is not Prof Epstein that is diminishing Ricochet, it is the membership.

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    What leftist would have written this?

    Sadly, both President Obama and his various administrative heads pushed hard on the regulatory levers that were still available to them. And so we got a Department of Labor (DOL) decision to raise the exemption levels under the Fair Labor Standards Act from just over $23,000 to just over $47,000, in ways that would have disrupted, without question, several major segments of the economy for whom the statutory definition of an hour does not serve as a workable measure of account. Thus, at one stroke, DOL compromised the status of graduate students, whose studies and work are often inseparable; of tech employees, whose compensation often comes in the form of deferred stock payments; and of gig workers, who are employed by the job and not the hour. At the same time, the general counsel of the National Labor Relations Board has taken steps to wreck highly successful, long-term franchising arrangements, by announcing henceforth that the franchisor may on a case-by-case basis be treated as an employer subject to the collective bargaining obligations of the NLRA. These, and similar decisions, are acts of wealth destruction, and they offer one powerful explanation, among many, for the decline in the labor participation rate to its lowest levels since World War II.

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    At least three decades of dedicated small-l libertarian activism on the part of the author.

    It’s really sad how a negative attitude toward one man is now enough to get people who’ve been fighting progressivism since many of us were in diapers labeled as, “Lefties.”

    Indeed. I do not agree with Epstein’s conclusion for a wide range of reasons, but he prefaced his conclusion by repeatedly burnishing his own bona fides with regards to regulation and economics. A leftist would have instead written a screed about how Trump was going to undo the legacy of the sainted Obama, revoke healthcare to millions of the poor, and ship Muslims off to concentration camps.

    Instead Epstein reserves his criticisms entirely to two issues: temperament and protectionism.

    Now mind you I think Epstein entirely underestimates the damage such an early resignation would do to Republicans and Conservatives – the Left would only be emboldened to continue rioting and litigating, spreading the myth of their own numbers and power. By staying in office, despite the ongoing leftist lunacy, Trump is instead showing them for the anarchists they really are. But if Trump resigns, Pence would be effectively neutered for the remainder of the term as the Left would only then switch to removing all legitimacy from Pence. There is no way to estimate the chaos that would come.

    Boom — refuted.

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    dittoheadadt (View Comment):

    Well, let me ask you this: Who would agree with the OP more – Democrats or Republicans?

    Which part? The first 2/3 would make any Dem blanche with anger.

    Um, I think, obviously, the lede:  “Time for Trump to resign”.

    Do you really think the Left would GARA about the first 2/3 if the outcome were Trump’s resignation?

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    dittoheadadt (View Comment):

    Well, let me ask you this: Who would agree with the OP more – Democrats or Republicans?

    Which part? The first 2/3 would make any Dem blanche with anger.

    Um, I think, obviously, the lede: “Time for Trump to resign”.

    Do you really think the Left would GARA about the first 2/3 if the outcome were Trump’s resignation?

    Not sure what GARA is.

    The Left will certainly seize upon the conclusion and take it out of context, but they do that with everything else anyway.  But if they attempt to run with just the lede then they’ll mire themselves if they have to defend why they side with Epstein.

    Epstein isn’t arguing by soundbite, though, he’s arguing like a lawyer in court.  If he were arguing by soundbite or twitter (which – sidebar here – would be hilarious to watch him try), then he’d have give the short short version “Trump endangers conservatism, must resign.  Click here to see why, the reasons will shock you…”.

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    Jamie Lockett (View Comment):
    Jamie Lockett

    dittoheadadt (View Comment):

    Umbra Fractus (View Comment):

    dittoheadadt (View Comment):

    RightAngles (View Comment):
    Our Main Feed continues to be polluted with this kind of tripe. I don’t enjoy Ricochet so much anymore. This post could have been written by – pick a Lefty, any Lefty.

    Who says it wasn’t?

    At least three decades of dedicated small-l libertarian activism on the part of the author.

    It’s really sad how a negative attitude toward one man is now enough to get people who’ve been fighting progressivism since many of us were in diapers labeled as, “Lefties.”

    Well, let me ask you this: Who would agree with the OP more – Democrats or Republicans?

    Who cares?

    Well, you see, it’s kinda relevant to the point UF and I were discussing.  If you don’t care discussing that point, fine.  But don’t quote, and then take our discussion in your preferred direction.  Do that on your own time, as it were.

    My point was that the conclusion Epstein drew would likely be far more agreeable to Democrats than to Republicans, ergo, it was Lefty in nature.

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  21. Jamie Lockett Member
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    dittoheadadt (View Comment):

    Jamie Lockett (View Comment):
    Jamie Lockett

    dittoheadadt (View Comment):

    Umbra Fractus (View Comment):

    dittoheadadt (View Comment):

    RightAngles (View Comment):
    Our Main Feed continues to be polluted with this kind of tripe. I don’t enjoy Ricochet so much anymore. This post could have been written by – pick a Lefty, any Lefty.

    Who says it wasn’t?

    At least three decades of dedicated small-l libertarian activism on the part of the author.

    It’s really sad how a negative attitude toward one man is now enough to get people who’ve been fighting progressivism since many of us were in diapers labeled as, “Lefties.”

    Well, let me ask you this: Who would agree with the OP more – Democrats or Republicans?

    Who cares?

    Well, you see, it’s kinda relevant to the point UF and I were discussing. If you don’t care discussing that point, fine. But don’t quote, and then take our discussion in your preferred direction. Do that on your own time, as it were.

    My point was that the conclusion Epstein drew would likely be far more agreeable to Democrats than to Republicans, ergo, it was Lefty in nature.

    Yeah answer my whole comment where I explain why I don’t care. Engage the whole argument please.

    Your logic is flawed if you truly believe that party politics outcomes reflect actual principles disagreement.

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    dittoheadadt (View Comment):

    Well, let me ask you this: Who would agree with the OP more – Democrats or Republicans?

    Which part? The first 2/3 would make any Dem blanche with anger.

    Um, I think, obviously, the lede: “Time for Trump to resign”.

    Do you really think the Left would GARA about the first 2/3 if the outcome were Trump’s resignation?

    Not sure what GARA is.

    “Give A Rat’s Ass” ~ wasn’t sure I could say that.  Still aren’t…(amn’t?).

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    Jamie Lockett (View Comment):
    Yeah answer my whole comment where I explain why I don’t care. Engage the whole argument please.

    It’s a fool’s errand.  I’ve read too many of your comments in this thread.  The fact that you responded as you did proves my point.  (As if, by comment #172, it needed proving.)

    …where I explain why I don’t care.” ~ Jeez, full of yourself much?!  I was conversing with UF on one specific point, and quite frankly I don’t GARA what you do or don’t care about.

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    Jamie Lockett (View Comment):

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    dittoheadadt (View Comment):

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    Our Main Feed continues to be polluted with this kind of tripe. I don’t enjoy Ricochet so much anymore. This post could have been written by – pick a Lefty, any Lefty.

    Who says it wasn’t?

    At least three decades of dedicated small-l libertarian activism on the part of the author.

    It’s really sad how a negative attitude toward one man is now enough to get people who’ve been fighting progressivism since many of us were in diapers labeled as, “Lefties.”

    Well, let me ask you this: Who would agree with the OP more – Democrats or Republicans?

    Who cares? Are the arguments sound or not? Is there truth to the piece? Let’s discuss that, that’s what we used to do around here. Now people would rather score cheap ad hominem points about the alleged sanity of one of the greatest legal minds in the country instead of addressing the arguments. It’s mystifying – if the arguments made here are so awful, as alleged by countless “civil” members – why have only a handful actually tried to wrestle with them.

    It is not Prof Epstein that is diminishing Ricochet, it is the membership.

    You want an coherent argument about something that would likely mean a civil war?

    Despite laying down his bonafides first his main idea is insanity. Flat out freaking insanity and his mind may well be slipping

     

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    dittoheadadt (View Comment):
    My point was that the conclusion Epstein drew would likely be far more agreeable to Democrats than to Republicans, ergo, it was Lefty in nature.

    That doesn’t necessarily follow.  Left and Right will have different opinions on lots of things that are not necessarily politically Left or Right.

    Take Creationism – it’s not a political call, it’s an issue of faith and science.  Yet if (to take a local example) anonymous were to write an essay called “Creationism is wrong, here’s why”, certainly more people on the political Left than on the Right would agree with that lede (in your words it “would likely be far more agreeable to Democrats than to Republicans”), but that wouldn’t make the essay or the lede Lefty in nature.

     

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    dittoheadadt (View Comment):

    RightAngles (View Comment):
    Our Main Feed continues to be polluted with this kind of tripe. I don’t enjoy Ricochet so much anymore. This post could have been written by – pick a Lefty, any Lefty.

    Who says it wasn’t?

    At least three decades of dedicated small-l libertarian activism on the part of the author.

    It’s really sad how a negative attitude toward one man is now enough to get people who’ve been fighting progressivism since many of us were in diapers labeled as, “Lefties.”

    Well, let me ask you this: Who would agree with the OP more – Democrats or Republicans?

    Who cares? Are the arguments sound or not? Is there truth to the piece? Let’s discuss that, that’s what we used to do around here. Now people would rather score cheap ad hominem points about the alleged sanity of one of the greatest legal minds in the country instead of addressing the arguments. It’s mystifying – if the arguments made here are so awful, as alleged by countless “civil” members – why have only a handful actually tried to wrestle with them.

    It is not Prof Epstein that is diminishing Ricochet, it is the membership.

    You want an coherent argument about something that would likely mean a civil war?

    Despite laying down his bonafides first his main idea is insanity. Flat out freaking insanity and his mind may well be slipping

    I want coherent arguments not petty ad hominem. If you cant engage in the former then just don’t engage.  The point remains: if the arguments are so poor they should be easy to refute. People should try doing so.

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    Never mind.  I don’t feel like talking about any of this BS.

     

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    DocJay (View Comment):
    Despite laying down his bonafides first his main idea is insanity. Flat out freaking insanity

    The idea is certainly extraordinarily dangerous, short-sighted, and self-defeating.  If Trump resigns, chaos will reign.

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  29. Jamie Lockett Member
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    DocJay (View Comment):
    Despite laying down his bonafides first his main idea is insanity. Flat out freaking insanity

    The idea is certainly extraordinarily dangerous, short-sighted, and self-defeating. If Trump resigns, chaos will reign.

    A good argument against the OP.

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    dittoheadadt (View Comment):
    wasn’t sure I could say that. Still aren’t…(amn’t?).

    Heh.  I would avoid its use moving forward.  But thanks for the explanation.

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