DeVos Confirmed

 

The party whips were correct and the final vote on Betsy DeVos’ nomination to head the Department of Education was 50-50.

Vice President Mike Pence, in his Constitutional role as President of the Senate cast the deciding vote. In what can only be seen as a historic piece of strategy on the part of Democrats, by delaying Jeff Session’s elevation to the cabinet they allowed him to remain in the Senate and vote for DeVos.

And, of course, this:

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  1. Arjay Member
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    Jamie Lockett (View Comment):

    Arjay (View Comment):

    Jamie Lockett (View Comment):

    RushBabe49 (View Comment):
    I want the two spineless R’s who voted NO to be taken to the woodshed, and spanked to within an inch of their bottoms. Leadership needs to take charge.

    What kind of Republican do you expect will get elected in Maine?

    I doubt this had much of anything to do with the people in Maine. She’s in bed with the teacher unions.

    Maybe, that’s certainly true of Murkowski – perhaps you’re conflating them?

    Well, I was going on this news story: http://nypost.com/2017/02/05/the-war-on-betsy-devos-is-all-about-the-teachers-unions/

    Yes, two Senate Republicans have come out against DeVos — the only two who routinely get A’s on the National Education Association’s “report card” because they vote the union line.

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  2. Jamie Lockett Member
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    Note:

    Not helping.

    Keith Preston (View Comment):

    tabula rasa (View Comment):
    Thank you to the Democrats in the Senate for slowing down the Sessions confirmation. Nitwits!

    Actually, that’s all on Mitch. He saw this coming, told Susie and Lisa they could “revolt” and scheduled Jeff for later. The Majority Leader sets the vote schedule. What’s really fun is how that jackass Schumer keeps getting schooled. Harry Reid’s legislative bonehead move is the gift that keeps on giving.

    No no no, McConnell is a traitorous moronic …

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  3. Jamie Lockett Member
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    Arjay (View Comment):

    Jamie Lockett (View Comment):

    Arjay (View Comment):

    Jamie Lockett (View Comment):

    RushBabe49 (View Comment):
    I want the two spineless R’s who voted NO to be taken to the woodshed, and spanked to within an inch of their bottoms. Leadership needs to take charge.

    What kind of Republican do you expect will get elected in Maine?

    I doubt this had much of anything to do with the people in Maine. She’s in bed with the teacher unions.

    Maybe, that’s certainly true of Murkowski – perhaps you’re conflating them?

    Well, I was going on this news story: http://nypost.com/2017/02/05/the-war-on-betsy-devos-is-all-about-the-teachers-unions/

    Yes, two Senate Republicans have come out against DeVos — the only two who routinely get A’s on the National Education Association’s “report card” because they vote the union line.

    Good info, thanks.

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  4. EJHill Podcaster
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    ArjayShe’s in bed with the teacher unions.

    Want me to photoshop that? $20 to do it, $50 not to…

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  5. Mike LaRoche Inactive
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    Note:

    Also not helping.

    [redacted]

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  6. Ralphie Inactive
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    Bet a lot of kids face a crabby teacher today if they haven’t already.    None of them cared much when my business was hurt by cash for clunkers (and it was a net loss and didn’t save the planet), or when my insurance tripled to where I don’t have it.  If nothing else, if the education of children does not improve, I hope the educators get an education.  There sure is a lot of them squawking like she’s going to eliminate children.

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  7. Arjay Member
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    EJHill (View Comment):

    Arjay: She’s in bed with the teacher unions.

    Want me to photoshop that? $20 to do it, $50 not to…

    Maybe I should go back and edit that phrase…

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  8. Amy Schley Coolidge
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    Jamie Lockett (View Comment):

    Keith Preston (View Comment):

    tabula rasa (View Comment):
    Thank you to the Democrats in the Senate for slowing down the Sessions confirmation. Nitwits!

    Actually, that’s all on Mitch. He saw this coming, told Susie and Lisa they could “revolt” and scheduled Jeff for later. The Majority Leader sets the vote schedule. What’s really fun is how that jackass Schumer keeps getting schooled. Harry Reid’s legislative bonehead move is the gift that keeps on giving.

    No no no, McConnell is a traitorous moronic cuck who would never do something to help conservatives.

    I’m with you on being sick of the constant run down of the Establishment Republicans, but this sort of thing really doesn’t help.

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  9. TempTime Member
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    Western Chauvinist (View Comment):
    Trump’s next EO should be to undo JFK’s EO permitting public sector unions. It would be one the top three or four actions he could take in domestic politics.

    Now this would put a big leagues smile on my face!  The biggest ever. Really big.  Really, really big.  It would be huge.

     

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  10. bridget Inactive
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    Jamie Lockett (View Comment):

    RushBabe49 (View Comment):
    I want the two spineless R’s who voted NO to be taken to the woodshed, and spanked to within an inch of their bottoms. Leadership needs to take charge.

    What kind of Republican do you expect will get elected in Maine? Are you willing to jeopardize the senate majority for your vendetta? McConnell, knowing he could count on Pence to break the tie probably allowed this to preserve her seat and get more important work done in the future.

    Here in Massachusetts, people decided that Gabe Gomez wasn’t conservative enough, so we have Ed Markey; they also decided that Scott Brown wasn’t conservative enough to defend for reelection, so we have Elizabeth Warren.

    The other downside, less obvious to those who aren’t really into the boring parts of politics or don’t live in deep blue states, is that doing such things makes it really, really hard to later recruit people to run for office.  The message it sends to potential candidates is that you will put them between a rock (the basic demographics and leanings of the state) and a hard place (a conservative purity test).

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  11. Kozak Member
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    Be Happy (View Comment):
    Once again the Dems failed in executing on strategy. They succeed in peeling off a couple of Republicans but not enough votes.

    Rahm Emmanuel has recently called the Dems out on this, he said that they care too much about “being right” instead of winning. And to win while out of power the Dems need to focus on wedge issues, DeVos was an opportunity to capitalize on this but they failed.

    http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/chicagoinc/ct-rahm-emanuel-national-democrats-advice-0207-chicago-inc-20170206-story.html

    If they start listening to Rahm the Republicans could be in trouble this year getting things through Congress as Republicans are known for fighting among themselves.

    Is nobody impressed by the party discipline of the Bolsheviki?  Not one defection. Not a single “reasonable” Democrat.  They play for keeps.

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  12. Jamie Lockett Member
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    bridget (View Comment):

    Jamie Lockett (View Comment):

    RushBabe49 (View Comment):
    I want the two spineless R’s who voted NO to be taken to the woodshed, and spanked to within an inch of their bottoms. Leadership needs to take charge.

    What kind of Republican do you expect will get elected in Maine? Are you willing to jeopardize the senate majority for your vendetta? McConnell, knowing he could count on Pence to break the tie probably allowed this to preserve her seat and get more important work done in the future.

    Here in Massachusetts, people decided that Gabe Gomez wasn’t conservative enough, so we have Ed Markey; they also decided that Scott Brown wasn’t conservative enough to defend for reelection, so we have Elizabeth Warren.

    The other downside, less obvious to those who aren’t really into the boring parts of politics or don’t live in deep blue states, is that doing such things makes it really, really hard to later recruit people to run for office. The message it sends to potential candidates is that you will put them between a rock (the basic demographics and leanings of the state) and a hard place (a conservative purity test).

    I think much of the rancor around here can be ascribed to those that live in blue states and those that live in red states having different understandings of what is possible.

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  13. bridget Inactive
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    Jamie Lockett (View Comment):

     

    The other downside, less obvious to those who aren’t really into the boring parts of politics or don’t live in deep blue states, is that doing such things makes it really, really hard to later recruit people to run for office. The message it sends to potential candidates is that you will put them between a rock (the basic demographics and leanings of the state) and a hard place (a conservative purity test).

    I think much of the rancor around here can be ascribed to those that live in blue states and those that live in red states having different understandings of what is possible.

    Agreed, but it’s also people who don’t understand the difference between taking out Eric Cantor (when the victor of the primary was almost certain to win the general) and taking out Kelly Ayotte or Scott Brown (when the other option is a raving progressive lunatic).

    I’m a bit to the right of Antonin Scalia politically, but I also worry about doing what the Democrats have done: so insist on party purity that you become a regional party at both the national and state level, while the other party scoops up the vast majority of independent voters.  There can be a value to Susan Collins voting against DeVos, and that’s simply that people will see Republicans as having a variety of ideas on how to run things.

     

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  14. blood thirsty neocon Inactive
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    Getting back to the OP topic, how could anyone argue that education is a federal issue, but immigration is a state and local issue? I don’t want the Sec Ed to know the difference between progress and growth (gotcha question). I want her to know the difference between the federal responsibility and state/local responsibility.

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    RushBabe49 (View Comment):
    I want the two spineless R’s who voted NO to be taken to the woodshed, and spanked to within an inch of their bottoms. Leadership needs to take charge.

    No. Please do not say that. They could quite easily become Arlen Specters and we lose control.

    We need them to keep thwarting the will of their voters and when they come up for re-election, they both lose in the primaries.

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  16. Jamie Lockett Member
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    JcTPatriot (View Comment):

    RushBabe49 (View Comment):
    I want the two spineless R’s who voted NO to be taken to the woodshed, and spanked to within an inch of their bottoms. Leadership needs to take charge.

    No. Please do not say that. They could quite easily become Arlen Specters and we lose control.

    We need them to keep thwarting the will of their voters and when they come up for re-election, they both lose in the primaries.

    Do you see someone more conservative than Collins getting elected in Maine?

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  17. rod Inactive
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    not one stinking democrat

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  18. Mike LaRoche Inactive
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    Jamie Lockett (View Comment):

    JcTPatriot (View Comment):

    RushBabe49 (View Comment):
    I want the two spineless R’s who voted NO to be taken to the woodshed, and spanked to within an inch of their bottoms. Leadership needs to take charge.

    No. Please do not say that. They could quite easily become Arlen Specters and we lose control.

    We need them to keep thwarting the will of their voters and when they come up for re-election, they both lose in the primaries.

    Do you see someone more conservative than Collins getting elected in Maine?

    Paul LePage.

    Vive les Québécois!

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  19. JcTPatriot Member
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    Jamie Lockett (View Comment):

    JcTPatriot (View Comment):

    RushBabe49 (View Comment):
    I want the two spineless R’s who voted NO to be taken to the woodshed, and spanked to within an inch of their bottoms. Leadership needs to take charge.

    No. Please do not say that. They could quite easily become Arlen Specters and we lose control.

    We need them to keep thwarting the will of their voters and when they come up for re-election, they both lose in the primaries.

    Do you see someone more conservative than Collins getting elected in Maine?

    Oh, no way. But someone that votes with their Party more often? Yes way.

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  20. C. U. Douglas Coolidge
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    Given the nature of these hearings, the lack of a filibuster, and the likelihood of all nominees being confirmed, a lack of Democrat defections again I attribute more to political theater.

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  21. Robert McReynolds Member
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    RushBabe49 (View Comment):
    I want the two spineless R’s who voted NO to be taken to the woodshed, and spanked to within an inch of their bottoms. Leadership needs to take charge.

    Well they will be taken to said woodshed by the very man who did everything in his power to see them elected: Mitch “The Bungler” McConnell. Particularly the Alaska Senator, Murkowski or Mulkowski whatever the hell it is, owes her seat to the fact that Mitch and the gang did not back the GOP nominee for that seat in 2010 and encouraged her write-in campaign. (Now we sit back and watch the NT’ers to tell me he did no such thing.)

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  22. Robert McReynolds Member
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    blood thirsty neocon (View Comment):
    Getting back to the OP topic, how could anyone argue that education is a federal issue, but immigration is a state and local issue? I don’t want the Sec Ed to know the difference between progress and growth (gotcha question). I want her to know the difference between the federal responsibility and state/local responsibility.

    You sure you are a neo-con? Usually you guys are all about nationalism and imperialist fantasies.

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  23. Keith Preston Member
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    RushBabe49 (View Comment):
    I want the two spineless R’s who voted NO to be taken to the woodshed, and spanked to within an inch of their bottoms. Leadership needs to take charge.

    Regarding Mitch McConnell:

    He held his ground on Garland when EVERYONE expected to lose the Senate

    He has gotten every one of DJT’s people through.  Probably will even get Puzder through (nanny problem and Ds want a scalp. Esp. Labor)

    Will get Gorsuch through with perhaps the 2-speech rule – holding nuke for next appt.

    KNOWS he might get 6-10 votes switch in 2018.  Watch who he makes head of R Senate campaign and see who they can recruit in MO, IN, ND, MT, WI, etc.  This will make or break his legacy…and perhaps Trumps.  He will earn our respect if he can pull it off.

    I’m no big fan of “the Turtle” but he has outmaneuvered Schumer six ways from Sunday.  Finally, he backed Trump in the face of ALL the “oddsmakers” saying Hillary was a shoo-in.  Mitch has earned my grudging respect.  Give it where it’s due;  he’s been a key ally for Trump so far.  I’ll bet Mike Pence has him on speed dial.  We have hundreds of appts. and judges to go.  We need a good Majority Leader.

    He’s it.

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