Contributor Post Created with Sketch. MTV, Then and Now

 

Watch these three promotional videos from MTV, and see how far the front lines in the culture wars have moved in the last 25 years.

 

What was once edgy and hip is now something to be derided by emasculated males standing in front of a pink background.

That last video better be a parody, or else Trump is surely headed for re-election in 2020.

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  1. Dustoff Inactive

    From a dark, barbaric and primitive beginning, to a land of progress, safety and sparkly snowflakes.

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    • January 2, 2017, at 11:13 PM PST
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  2. Joseph Stanko Coolidge
    Joseph StankoJoined in the first year of Ricochet Ricochet Charter Member

    Did he say “stop bragging about being woke?” I’m so far outside their current market demographic that I have no idea what that even means.

    • #62
    • January 2, 2017, at 11:28 PM PST
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  3. RyanFalcone Member

    One thing has always bugged me to no end. Conservatives are always the but of jokes or far worse in our pop culture. Yet, characters like Denis Leary (is it a character?), Archie Bunker, Ron Swanson, Alex P Keaton are among the most beloved characters ever to be embraced by this culture and are loved as they are for being the conservative adult in a room full of liberal idiots.

    For all the outward hate we get, people secretly want us around. Is this the Trump phenomena? It is like a child who grows up without a father and dumps all his frustration, insecurity, anger and pain on some fabricated villain in their mind that gets projected onto all men and any negative characteristic defined as male. Yet, the one thing they crave most of all is to have a father that exhibits all the positive attributes of manhood that they refuse to acknowledge.

    What Leary is preaching may be a type for conservatism (beer swilling, chain smoking, swearing, farting, careless gun toting, meat devouring sex fiends) but it is mere comic relief for the very real and stressful reality of what being a conservative is (sacrificial love of family, uncompromising devotion to God, respect for the cultural norms that generations have leaned on for security and strength and a willingness to stand behind them).

    It is good to laugh but I’d like to see more conservative truth in our entertainment, not the comic shadow of it.

    • #63
    • January 3, 2017, at 6:58 AM PST
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  4. Eustace C. Scrubb Member

    @josephstanko “Bragging about being woke”? I had to look it up. “Being woke” is, according to Urban Dictionary, “being aware”, particularly of what is going on in “the community”. So a white guy bragging about, say, “being woke” to the plight of the trans, multicolored, urban poodle in our totalitarian partiarchal society really doesn’t understand and should shut up and shouldn’t talk about anything but… well, shouldn’t talk about anything.

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    • January 3, 2017, at 9:34 AM PST
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  5. Ansonia Member
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    RyanFalcone (View Comment):
    Re: 63

    “One thing has always bugged me to no end. Conservatives are always the but of jokes or far worse in our pop culture. Yet, characters like Denis Leary (is it a character?), Archie Bunker, Ron Swanson, Alex P Keaton are among the most beloved characters ever to be embraced by this culture and are loved as they are for being the conservative adult in a room full of liberal idiots.

    For all the outward hate we get, people secretly want us around. Is this the Trump phenomena? It is like a child who grows up without a father and dumps all his frustration, insecurity, anger and pain on some fabricated villain in their mind that gets projected onto all men and any negative characteristic defined as male.”

    Funny you should write this, RyanFalcone. Before you did, I was half thinking that the snark and viciousness of the young people in the video—Would someone please tell them about the racial diversity of the many police officers murdered in 2016, by the way ?—really does look like redirected and exploited anger.

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    • January 3, 2017, at 10:38 AM PST
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  6. Joseph Stanko Coolidge
    Joseph StankoJoined in the first year of Ricochet Ricochet Charter Member

    Eustace C. Scrubb (View Comment):
    “Being woke” is, according to Urban Dictionary, “being aware”, particularly of what is going on in “the community”.

    Thanks, I’ve never heard this usage, let alone used it myself, so I can’t stop using it.

    What about “my alarm woke me in time to prepare for my morning video conference,” can I still say that in 2017?

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    • January 3, 2017, at 10:49 AM PST
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  7. Joseph Stanko Coolidge
    Joseph StankoJoined in the first year of Ricochet Ricochet Charter Member

    Eustace C. Scrubb (View Comment):
    So a white guy bragging about, say, “being woke” to the plight of the trans, multicolored, urban poodle in our totalitarian partiarchal society really doesn’t understand and should shut up and shouldn’t talk about anything butâ€Ĥ well, shouldn’t talk about anything.

    Or how about if I as a white guy brag about “being woke” to the plight of blue collar white guys who can’t find a job in the Obama economy? I mean, those are my people, at least if like the left you presume that race and sex gender are the all-important categories that define us.

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    • January 3, 2017, at 12:03 PM PST
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  8. Knotwise the Poet Member

    RyanFalcone (View Comment):
    One thing has always bugged me to no end. Conservatives are always the but of jokes or far worse in our pop culture. Yet, characters like Denis Leary (is it a character?), Archie Bunker, Ron Swanson, Alex P Keaton are among the most beloved characters ever to be embraced by this culture and are loved as they are for being the conservative adult in a room full of liberal idiots.

    Bill Whittle made a wonderful video covering this phenomenon back in 2012.

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    • January 3, 2017, at 10:08 PM PST
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  9. Western Chauvinist Member
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    Knotwise the Poet (View Comment):

    RyanFalcone (View Comment):
    One thing has always bugged me to no end. Conservatives are always the but of jokes or far worse in our pop culture. Yet, characters like Denis Leary (is it a character?), Archie Bunker, Ron Swanson, Alex P Keaton are among the most beloved characters ever to be embraced by this culture and are loved as they are for being the conservative adult in a room full of liberal idiots.

    Bill Whittle made a wonderful video covering this phenomenon back in 2012.

    Love this! Thanks for posting.

    I’ve long thought Trump’s “admiration” for Putin was in the alpha signalling category. Not swanning so much as peacocking.

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    • January 4, 2017, at 7:13 AM PST
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