Connecting Actors and Soldiers

 

Here’s a surprise that popped up in YouTube’s recommended videos: Adam Driver (aka Kylo Ren) talking about his transition from United States Marine to Hollywood actor. Driver’s speech is only 9 minutes (half the video) and impressive in more ways than one. In a rapid-fire presentation, he touches on differences between military life and civilian life while also noting similarities between soldiering and acting.

Like all actors these days, it seems, Driver sponsors an organization. But his is a strange one: Arts in the Armed Forces. The basic mission statement is ho-hum. But the explication, like similar statements in Driver’s speech, is fascinating:

[….] Importantly, after each of AITAF’s performances, the actors interact with the audience through a question and answer session as well as a more informal mingling period.

The goal is not simply to provide an enjoyable evening, but to use the powerfully emotional shared experience of live theater to open up conversations capable of bridging the divides between military and civilian, service member and family member, the world of the arts and the world of practical action.

I’m sure there are benefits for both sides of that equation. But it’s especially nice to know that a few more actors are being exposed to “the world of practical action.” @garymcvey is absolutely right that conservatives should do more writing and acting, less complaining about others who do. But this is helpful too.

Driver’s speech also highlights a vital ingredient in so many success stories, both civilian and militant: drive. Victory is achieved by those who will accept nothing less.

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  1. Gary McVey Contributor
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    This is a terrific clip and an amazing story, Aaron. Thanks for posting it. I’ve seen Drew Carey speak about his service experience and I hope more actors like Adam Driver will continue to emerge from genuinely, honest-to-goodness diverse backgrounds of life experience and thought.

    Generally speaking, in Hollywood the most Left branch is screenwriting. The actors do have some of the biggest Lefties, and some of the most colorful outsized personalities around, but there’s an important distinction that keeps most of the acting branch more mainstream than writers or other intellectuals: unlike most other workplaces in America, actors are unabashedly judged on the best of looks, which come from everywhere.

    Forty-plus years ago, pretty much every guy in the movies, in front of or behind the camera, had been in the military because most men had been in the military, period.

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  2. nandapanjandrum Member
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    Have seen this before…It’s AWESOME!

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  3. AnonyMouse Inactive
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    Thanks for that. The Batman performance was also moving, if you can get all the way to the end of it.

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  4. Umbra Fractus Inactive
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    “Voluntold.”

    Hearing that word again made me smile. :)

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  5. Simon Templar Member
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    Umbra Fractus:“Voluntold.”

    Hearing that word again made me smile. ?

    Somebody ought to translate this for our civilian friends.

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  6. nandapanjandrum Member
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    Simon Templar:

    Umbra Fractus:“Voluntold.”

    Hearing that word again made me smile. ?

    Somebody ought to translate this for our civilian friends.

    Is it anything like being made an offer you can’t refuse? (Makes me smile, too.)

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  7. Simon Templar Member
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    Nanda Panjandrum:

    Simon Templar:

    Umbra Fractus:“Voluntold.”

    Hearing that word again made me smile. ?

    Somebody ought to translate this for our civilian friends.

    Is it anything like being made an offer you can’t refuse? (Makes me smile, too.)

    In the words of Slick Willy Clinton, “Close but no cigar.”

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  8. nandapanjandrum Member
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    Simon Templar:

    Nanda Panjandrum:

    Simon Templar:

    Umbra Fractus:“Voluntold.”

    Hearing that word again made me smile. ?

    Somebody ought to translate this for our civilian friends.

    Is it anything like being made an offer you can’t refuse? (Makes me smile, too.)

    In the words of Slick Willy Clinton, “Close but no cigar.”

    Can’t blame a gal for trying…Can you? (-:  [Mail call, pls/ty]

    Update: Research tells me that the offer that will brook no refusal involves performance of an unpleasant, unrewarding, non-transferable , non-buck-passable task. Closer, this time, ST?

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  9. David Wilder Thatcher
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    Simon Templar:

    Umbra Fractus:“Voluntold.”

    Hearing that word again made me smile. ?

    Somebody ought to translate this for our civilian friends.

    Been there, done that.  In hind sight I can smile.

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  10. David Wilder Thatcher
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    I am not a big fan of Star Wars.  I am a huge fan of the USMC.  Glad to see this Lance Corporal making the best of the life skills honed, shared and honored by the Corps.

    Maybe I will buy a ticket to the next Star Wars movie……..eventually.

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  11. CB Toder aka Mama Toad Member
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    Nanda, I volunteer my kids, Army-style, for unpleasant tasks all the time. Builds character and team work while exercising the obedience muscle. Good deal…

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  12. CB Toder aka Mama Toad Member
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    I love how Driver explains how the plays he was acting as a student revealed himself to him because they were articulating important human truths that had nothing and yet everything to do with being a soldier.

    Thanks Aaron!

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  13. Umbra Fractus Inactive
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    Nanda Panjandrum:

    Can’t blame a gal for trying…Can you? (-: [Mail call, pls/ty]

    Update: Research tells me that the offer that will brook no refusal involves performance of an unpleasant, unrewarding, non-transferable , non-buck-passable task. Closer, this time, ST?

    Close. It’s basically what it sounds like: An officer or an NCO comes to a guy and says, “I need a volunteer. How ’bout you?”

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  14. CB Toder aka Mama Toad Member
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    David Wilder:I am not a big fan of Star Wars. I am a huge fan of the USMC. Glad to see this Lance Corporal making the best of the life skills honed, shared and honored by the Corps.

    Maybe I will buy a ticket to the next Star Wars movie……..eventually.

    I really liked Driver in a supporting role in Ben Stiller’s While We’re Young. He’s not just Kylo Ren…

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  15. Aaron Miller Inactive
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    CB Toder aka Mama Toad:Nanda, I volunteer my kids, Army-style, for unpleasant tasks all the time. Builds character and team work while exercising the obedience muscle. Good deal…

    I always got loaned out as a kid. Even as an adult, one must be careful when neighbors stop by family gatherings.

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  16. CB Toder aka Mama Toad Member
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    One more Driver comment: He is in a Martin Scorsese movie coming out, Silence, based on a novel of the same name by Shusaku Endo.

     

    I’ve read the book and it is extremely powerful. I will see this movie.

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  17. Titus Techera Contributor
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    The Silence movie does look really interesting–also, it’s the second impressive outing for young actor & former layabout Andrew Garfield, after Hacksaw ridge. The kid has acting skills…

    Now, Mr. Adam Driver also acted in this year’s Midnight special, one of the two Jeff Nichols movies to come out this year, Loving being the other–about the best name for a court case in US history, Loving v. Virginia, the anti-miscegenation ruling of ’67. I recommend both & will review the latter presently.

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  18. Titus Techera Contributor
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    Now, as for the project, this looks like it’s going to do some good. Maybe something great comes of it. The least we can do is give it the publicity of putting this on the Main Feed.

    Mr. Miller, I’d be grateful if you found the time to say a bit more about it.

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  19. Titus Techera Contributor
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    Folks, we’re at 8 votes here–4 more & we can share with the world a lovely Christmas moment, an ex-Marine talking about bringing acting to servicemen. Let’s do it, folks!

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  20. Western Chauvinist Member
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    CB Toder aka Mama Toad:Nanda, I volunteer my kids, Army-style, for unpleasant tasks all the time. Builds character and team work while exercising the obedience muscle. Good deal…

    My kids learned about being voluntold at their school (a Hillsdale charter). Oorah!

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  21. Sabrdance Member
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    Great talk.  I have only seen him in Force Awakens, and I liked him in the movie.  Have no other frame of reference, but yeah -sounds like an interesting program.

    I enjoyed the monologue afterwards, though I confess I have no idea what it means.

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  22. TempTime Member
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    Thanks for posting this Aaron.  Loved every minute.  Made me want to give a Marine a hug … and Batman too.

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  23. Titus Techera Contributor
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    Sabrdance:Great talk. I have only seen him in Force Awakens, and I liked him in the movie. Have no other frame of reference, but yeah -sounds like an interesting program.

    I enjoyed the monologue afterwards, though I confess I have no idea what it means.

    It means the Hispanic boy is thinking of heroism as a way to get his father to act like a father-

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  24. Sabrdance Member
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    Titus Techera:

    Sabrdance:Great talk. I have only seen him in Force Awakens, and I liked him in the movie. Have no other frame of reference, but yeah -sounds like an interesting program.

    I enjoyed the monologue afterwards, though I confess I have no idea what it means.

    It means the Hispanic boy is thinking of heroism as a way to get his father to act like a father-

    Could you maybe elaborate on that?

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  25. Titus Techera Contributor
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    There are two kinds of crime in the story. One of them is a kind of petty crime, really more of a sin than a crime–an old loser who goes boozing & whoring. Or maybe on Ricochet we should say negotiating the affection of a lady of negotiable affection?

    Then there’s another kind of crime–real crime, theft, murder.

    These somehow correspond to the psychological states of father & son.

    Heroism may be the only thing that answers to that psychological state without causing a descent into the abyss.

    What the boy hopes for something from heroism, that it could get him his father back.

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  26. PsychLynne Inactive
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    I marked this post the moment I saw it, because I was so intrigued by it. Thank you so much for sharing this.  I enjoyed both Adam’s tsk and the monologue.

     

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  27. Simon Templar Member
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    TempTime (View Comment):
    Thanks for posting this Aaron. Loved every minute. Made me want to give a Marine a hug … and Batman too.

    Does the hug thing include former Marines?  If so, I will try to make myself available at your earliest convenience.

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  28. CB Toder aka Mama Toad Member
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    Simon Templar (View Comment):

    TempTime (View Comment):
    Thanks for posting this Aaron. Loved every minute. Made me want to give a Marine a hug … and Batman too.

    Does the hug thing include former Marines? If so, I will try to make myself available at your earliest convenience.

    I thought there were no “former” Marines? I’d give you a hug right now if I could. Wrap your arms all the way around yourself, good, now squeeze tight and say to yourself, This is a hug from Mama Toad.

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  29. Simon Templar Member
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    CB Toder aka Mama Toad (View Comment):

    Simon Templar (View Comment):

    TempTime (View Comment):
    Thanks for posting this Aaron. Loved every minute. Made me want to give a Marine a hug … and Batman too.

    Does the hug thing include former Marines? If so, I will try to make myself available at your earliest convenience.

    I thought there were no “former” Marines? I’d give you a hug right now if I could. Wrap your arms all the way around yourself, good, now squeeze tight and say to yourself, This is a hug from Mama Toad.

    Very nice and comforting hug  – thanks.  I was taught that there is no such thing as an ex-Marine, but there are former Marines.  Maybe that has changed but if so, I did not get the memo.

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  30. Simon Templar Member
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    CB Toder aka Mama Toad (View Comment):

    Simon Templar (View Comment):

    TempTime (View Comment):
    Thanks for posting this Aaron. Loved every minute. Made me want to give a Marine a hug … and Batman too.

    Does the hug thing include former Marines? If so, I will try to make myself available at your earliest convenience.

    I thought there were no “former” Marines? I’d give you a hug right now if I could. Wrap your arms all the way around yourself, good, now squeeze tight and say to yourself, This is a hug from Mama Toad.

    TempTime?

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