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The defenders of the Affordable Care Act are running out of excuses for the dismal performance of its health care exchanges. It is now old news that many uninsured individuals are unable, even with sizeable subsidies, to purchase health care coverage from private health care providers. As Yale Professor Jacob Hacker notes in his
Richard,
This is perhaps the worst of a myriad of Obama Administration travesties. One-sixth of the American economy. All of the Health Resources available in the United States. The Health Care of every man, woman, and child in America. Gruber told the story. They knew what was going to happen, lied about it to get the bill passed, and are still lying to this day. The ACA has undoubtedly caused the deaths of many people already. To stop it from continuing to cause many many more deaths into the future we have only one possible hope. Hillary Clinton must lose the election or we will seal the fate of many lives.
Regards,
Jim
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Most esteemed Dr. Gawron … Great minds think alike.
The Obama Administration is getting exactly what it wants, the end of the private health-insurance industry. The ACA was designed with that in mind, and it is working. For them the ACA is in no way a failure. For going along with it in the first place, those companies sort of deserve what they get. The only ones who don’t deserve what they get are the public, the real small-business-owners of the United States.
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Rush,
Given the mentality of the hopelessly trivial brains that populate Obamaland, this scenario is quite possible. I just would like to remind everyone of the number of deaths that such a little ruse could cause to obtain Single Payer. Of course, we know that socialism doesn’t work period so the deaths would continue under Single Payer and get worse. Gruber revealed that they were well aware of the consequences and lied anyway. One can only conclude that they harbor some sort of genocidal motive. Although stopping the ACA would be a miracle in itself, one might entertain the thought of putting Gruber, Zeke Emanuel, Obama..etc. on trial. You know sort of like the Nuremberg Trial.
Well, if HRC loses and Trump cancels the ACA it will at least be poetic justice.
Regards,
Jim
Ah. Obamacare. My wife and I lost our fine health insurance to Obamacare. Nearing our sixties, and with children in their twenties with insurance of their own, our own insurance did not cover maternity care nor pediatric vision and pediatric dental.
But those ‘deficiencies’ ran afoul of Obamacare and our insurance carrier canceled our plan. ( Note to Valarie Jarret – the insurance company cancelled our plan to comply with Obamacare )
Our new, Obamacare compliant, plan costs way more, covers less of what we actually use and forced my wife to change doctors. But by God if a miracle pregnancy occurs and the child needs glasses and braces we are covered!
Ekosj,
You do realize that you are being counted by the Obamites as one the many uninsured people that the ACA helped. Of course, you already had better Health Insurance. The ACA Law made that insurance illegal so your plan was canceled. Then the ACA (explitive unfit for CoC) signed you up and counted you as “uninsured”.
They should burn in Hell for this.
Regards,
Jim
@jamesgawron. I wish they’d stop helping!
Thank God we don’t need it, but heres the cost for a range of policies here in NC for me and the wife…
Between 27,000 and 40,000 per year.
The basic logic of Obamacare, such as it was, was that the premiums garnered by forcing young healthy people to purchase health insurance would subsidize the cost of insuring those older and less healthy, driving their costs down.
I was just reading an article in my old hometown Pennsylvania paper about the rising Obamacare premiums. They gave the following example. (Might not be exact but it’s close)
The new premium for the second cheapest Silver Plan for a healthy 27 year old making $25,000 per year would be $320 per month. But they would only pay $140 a month out of pocket and would receive an up-front tax credit (subsidy) for the other $180 per month.
So the basic premise of Obamacare is stood on its head. The young and healthy aren’t subsidizing me…because I’m a taxpayer, I’m subsidizing them!
Is this the raw cost, not broken out by what an employer would pick up and the employee would pick up? I have BC here in North Carolina and my premiums are in the $4,000 range, annually – but I’m single, no children.
Obamacare doesn’t have employer and employee shares; it’s for the individual market only. That’s one of the biggest parts of the overall scam.
When an employer “pays” part of a worker’s premiums, it is really just acting as a bookkeeper, paying the worker part in cash and part directly to his insurance company. But there is a huge advantage to this arrangement–in addition to making people “feel” better because they “only” have to pay “part” of the cost of health insurance: the portion of wage that is held back by the employer and sent over directly to the insurance company in the worker’s name is not taxed as income to the worker.
The ACA has made things worse, but at this point I am kind of okay with the system crashing and going to a government run healthcare system. Doctors and hospitals complain now about low reimbursement rates, when they go to single payer they will be even lower. The AMA and the hospital associations were all in on the ACA – they deserve what they are going to get.
But do we?
These are the costs for an individual, ACA plan. NO employer. All me.
Be very careful what you wish for.
Government Healthcare
The efficiency of the DMV
The customer service of the Post Office
The compassion of the IRS
Chris, employers are probably paying less per person because many of their employees won’t cost the insurer anything. The individual market doesn’t have as much cost averaging. The mandate was supposed to make it happen, but it didn’t.
Correct me if I am wrong, but my understanding is that subsidies only cover premiums, not deductibles.
That is correct.
Got it, thanks everyone. Didn’t know those details for the individual market.
As with most political decisions those who knew better and pushed for ACA needed and got the assistance of a lot of useful idiots in and outside Congress and the media. I seem to remember a lot of people in the media asking about the cost to individuals and the government stopping at the answer that forcing younger people to buy into health coverage would pay for everyone else, thus lowering costs for everyone. I don’t remember many asking how increasing the requirements for all the plans wouldn’t lead to higher costs; or how despite the fact that fulltime employment for younger people is more rare, these same underemployed folks would foot the bill for everyone’s health coverage. These are not hard questions to come up with. I think it shows a lack of curiosity and overwillingness to rely on pro-ACA lobbyists and lobbyist-experts on the part of those not already in the bag for the ACA for political reasons. Everyone should have seen this coming a mile away. And yet most of the country doesn’t even see it now. We’ve got a lot of convincing to do.