Hillary Clinton: Living Dangerously

 

screen-shot-2016-10-28-at-7-54-24-pmComedic value aside (“probe”, “device”, “Weiner”), what we know for certain is that the FBI has reopened its investigation into the into Hillary Clinton’s handling of classified material after discovering emails from the then-Secretary of State on a computer used by the former congressman/full-time pervert Anthony Weiner.

Maybe I’m old-fashioned but I miss the days when you were expected to bow-out of public life the moment your penis appeared on the internet. But the 1990’s were simpler times: in that ancient era the belief was that it was as much for your own good as for the public’s.

Yes, there were jokes at Weiner’s expense. How could there not be? As with Jeb Bush, Weiner was already behind the 8-ball with his last name. He should have understood that, unfair as it is, he had to walk a tighter rope than others. His repeated lies about someone hacking his Twitter account in order to make fun of his last name contributed to the merriment, if only because they flattered our contempt for the political class. The fact that he was young for a politician but well-on in years for a man who doesn’t understand how the internet works only contributed to our amusement.

As his foibles played out in the public eye it increasingly seemed that his alter-ego wasn’t Carlos Danger so much as Anthony Weiner. Your options limited, he made the seamless, predictable transition to the consulting class, facilitating favors for his clients from his former colleagues in Congress.

As his foibles played out in the public eye it increasingly seemed that his alter-ego wasn’t so much Carlos Danger as it was, well, Anthony Weiner. As the career of Debbie Wasserman Schultz has shown, there’s a considerable difference between being close to the Clintons and actually being a Clinton. 

In the main, Americans wished Anthony Weiner the best: we are a decent people and have little desire to humiliate. But when it comes to humiliation, Anthony Weiner is a self-made man. The overwhelming sense was that he’s a person for whom it’s high time to create a meaningful life for himself with his family – and to do so out of the public eye.

Presumably he had all the ingredients necessary for happiness: something to do, someone to love and something to look forward to. 

Perhaps history will deem Anthony Weiner to be the first person to fly close enough to the Clinton sun to engulf Hillary in flames rather than the other way around.

But I wouldn’t bet on it. 

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  1. WhiskeyPolitics Podcaster
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    @DaveSussman

    David Deeble: Maybe I’m old-fashioned but I miss the days when you were expected to bow-out of public life the moment your penis appeared on the internet. But the 1990’s simpler times: in that ancient era the belief was that it was as much for your own good as for the public’s.

    Never have words been truer. Great post Dave.

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  2. David Deeble Member
    David Deeble
    @DavidDeeble

    Thanks, Dave, and have a great weekend: we laugh to keep from voting – crying.

     

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  3. Percival Thatcher
    Percival
    @Percival

    10 cents is gonna want his moustache back.

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  4. Addiction Is A Choice Member
    Addiction Is A Choice
    @AddictionIsAChoice

    David Deeble:
    …But when it comes to humiliation, Anthony Weiner is a self-made man…

    I, literally, not Joe Biden-literally, but actually, physically, literally laughed out loud…I’m still laughing!

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  5. Man With the Axe Inactive
    Man With the Axe
    @ManWiththeAxe

    Weiner would profit from following the path of John Profumo, who had to resign from the British government after a sex scandal involving a 19 year old girl. He spent the rest of his life quietly doing good works for a London charity, including several years cleaning the toilets.  For this good work he was given the CBE by Queen Elizabeth.

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  6. David Deeble Member
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    @DavidDeeble

    Addiction Is A Choice:

    David Deeble:
    …But when it comes to humiliation, Anthony Weiner is a self-made man…

    I, literally, not Joe Biden-literally, but actually, physically, literally laughed out loud…I’m still laughing!

    Glad you enjoyed that one, Addiction. I’m here to serve.

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  7. David Deeble Member
    David Deeble
    @DavidDeeble

    Man With the Axe:Weiner would profit from following the path of John Profumo, who had to resign from the British government after a sex scandal involving a 19 year old girl. He spent the rest of his life quietly doing good works for a London charity, including several years cleaning the toilets. For this good work he was given the CBE by Queen Elizabeth.

    Let’s hang onto that dream, Man With Axe!

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  8. RightAngles Member
    RightAngles
    @RightAngles

    Addiction Is A Choice:

    David Deeble:
    …But when it comes to humiliation, Anthony Weiner is a self-made man…

    I, literally, not Joe Biden-literally, but actually, physically, literally laughed out loud…I’m still laughing!

    Same here haha

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  9. She Reagan
    She
    @She

    Percival:10 cents is gonna want his moustache back.

    Maybe not, after where it’s been.

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  10. OldDan Rhody Inactive
    OldDan Rhody
    @OldDanRhody

    David Deeble:Perhaps history will deem Anthony Weiner to be the first person to fly close enough to the Clinton sun to engulf Hillary in flames rather than the other way around.

    But I wouldn’t bet on it. 

    Caution justified by history past.

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  11. David Deeble Member
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    @DavidDeeble

    Man With the Axe:Weiner would profit from following the path of John Profumo, who had to resign from the British government after a sex scandal involving a 19 year old girl. He spent the rest of his life quietly doing good works for a London charity, including several years cleaning the toilets. For this good work he was given the CBE by Queen Elizabeth.

    I was very vaguely familiar with this story, Man With the Axe. Thanks again for sharing it here – it’s a beautiful one.

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  12. Doug Kimball Thatcher
    Doug Kimball
    @DougKimball

    It seems poetic justice that some of Hillary’s deleted emails have popped up on Carlos Danger’s laptop.  Perhaps he and his wife shared that laptop, or perhaps he inherited it as a freebee from the Clinton Foundation.  Huma was no doubt cc’d on much of Hillary’s correspondence, personal, Foundation and state dept.  She’s been Hillary’s right hand man (yes, I said it)  since her first Senate run.  Remember, Huma was a double dipper, on both the State Department and Foundation payrolls at once (Press: nothing to see here.)

    I’m still irate that the press never covered how inappropriate it was for Comey to have announced what he did on the email scandal.  The FBI works for the attorney general and they provide investigations at the attorney general’s direction.  The attorney general is the body that decides whether to investigate and having seen the evidence, whether to continue to investigate or not.  It is entirely the attorney general’s responsibility to decide whether to prosecute or not, not the FBI.  As in the old Dragnet days, the FBI deals in “Just the facts, ma’am.”

    Surely the decision to make Comey the conduit for Hillary’s fake exoneration was brokered by Bill on the Tarmac in Phoenix on that hot summer day.  Even more concerning is what exactly coerced Comey to play along?  There were grumblings among the investigative staff that Comey caved to pressure.  Now that many of the emails have likely been located at their destination, if is doubtful that Comey will be played the fool again.  His staff won’t allow it.

    It’s going to be an interesting week

     

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  13. David Deeble Member
    David Deeble
    @DavidDeeble

    Agreed. While there’s still time for a groundbreaking leak from Wikileaks, this entire race has succeeded in foiling *everybody’s* expectations.

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  14. Metalheaddoc Member
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    @Metalheaddoc

    David Deeble:


    Man With the Axe:Weiner would profit from following the path of John Profumo, who had to resign from the British government after a sex scandal involving a 19 year old girl. He spent the rest of his life quietly doing good works for a London charity, including several years cleaning the toilets. For this good work he was given the CBE by Queen Elizabeth.

    Let’s hang onto that dream, Man With Axe!

    The newly humble and contrite Mr. Weiner has announced that he intends to fund and be fully engaged in his new non-profit charity: The Anthony Weiner Home for Wayward Cheerleaders and Teenage Nymphomaniacs.  Bill Clinton is the honorary chairman emeritus. Please donate. Hard and often.

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  15. RightAngles Member
    RightAngles
    @RightAngles

    Metalheaddoc:

    David Deeble:


    Man With the Axe:Weiner would profit from following the path of John Profumo, who had to resign from the British government after a sex scandal involving a 19 year old girl. He spent the rest of his life quietly doing good works for a London charity, including several years cleaning the toilets. For this good work he was given the CBE by Queen Elizabeth.

    Let’s hang onto that dream, Man With Axe!

    The newly humble and contrite Mr. Weiner has announced that he intends to fund and be fully engaged in his new non-profit charity: The Anthony Weiner Home for Wayward Cheerleaders and Teenage Nymphomaniacs. Bill Clinton is the honorary chairman emeritus. Please donate. Hard and often.

    Ha. Here is their logo:

    expose

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  16. Richard Fulmer Inactive
    Richard Fulmer
    @RichardFulmer

    I always had the sense that Bill Clinton liked playing with fire – it was part of the allure.  I don’t get that feeling from Hillary.  She wants to be in control, wants  to play it safe.  But her  need for security led her to put the country’s security in jeopardy.  In a play to keep her official e-mails private, she inadvertently opened them up to the world.

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  17. Basil Fawlty Member
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    @BasilFawlty

    David Deeble: Perhaps history will deem Anthony Weiner to be the first person to fly close enough to the Clinton sun to engulf Hillary in flames rather than the other way around.

    Any flames around the Clintons aren’t generated by the sun.

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  18. Richard Fulmer Inactive
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    @RichardFulmer

    Doug Kimball: Surely the decision to make Comey the conduit for Hillary’s fake exoneration was brokered by Bill on the Tarmac in Phoenix on that hot summer day.

    I suspect, rather, that it was the meeting on the tarmac that led Loretta Lynch to pressure Comey into recommending that Clinton not be indicted.  With her secret tryst exposed, she was forced to recuse herself.  But, as Andrew McCarthy has reported, the fix was in because the President himself was implicated.  So, with Lynch no longer able to pull the plug on an indictment herself, the task fell to Comey.

    The FBI director did his level best to salvage his honor by damning Clinton with the facts before issuing his coerced recommendation.  He would have been far better served to have resigned instead.  The Clinton’s trail of slime is wide, getting wider, and adheres to anyone who associates with them.

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  19. Basil Fawlty Member
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    @BasilFawlty

    Richard Fulmer: I suspect, rather, that it was the meeting on the tarmac that led Loretta Lynch to pressure Comey into recommending that Clinton not be indicted

    I don’t know.  The meeting on the tarmac seems a poor substitute for burner phones when implementing a conspiracy.

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  20. Paula Lynn Johnson Inactive
    Paula Lynn Johnson
    @PaulaLynnJohnson

    This was hilarious as always.

    The way the Clintons run things, Carlos Danger better get himself a bullet-proof suit and go into deep hiding.

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  21. Fritz Coolidge
    Fritz
    @Fritz

    Richard Fulmer:I always had the sense that Bill Clinton liked playing with fire – it was part of the allure. I don’t get that feeling from Hillary. She wants to be in control, wants to play it safe. But her need for security led her to put the country’s security in jeopardy. In a play to keep her official e-mails private, she inadvertently opened them up to the world.

    Pretty sordid, but still, this is a great plot for Greek tragedy. Or maybe a twisted version of Macbeth, with the heath located in Chappaqua and the castle on the Potomac.

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  22. Arahant Member
    Arahant
    @Arahant

    David Deeble: But when it comes to humiliation, Anthony Weiner is a self-made man.

    Yep.

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  23. Richard Fulmer Inactive
    Richard Fulmer
    @RichardFulmer

    Basil Fawlty:

    Richard Fulmer: I suspect, rather, that it was the meeting on the tarmac that led Loretta Lynch to pressure Comey into recommending that Clinton not be indicted

    I don’t know. The meeting on the tarmac seems a poor substitute for burner phones when implementing a conspiracy.

    Maybe they know something we don’t about how secure burner phone conversations are.

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  24. Basil Fawlty Member
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    @BasilFawlty

    Richard Fulmer:

    Basil Fawlty:

    Richard Fulmer: I suspect, rather, that it was the meeting on the tarmac that led Loretta Lynch to pressure Comey into recommending that Clinton not be indicted

    I don’t know. The meeting on the tarmac seems a poor substitute for burner phones when implementing a conspiracy.

    Maybe they know something we don’t about how secure burner phone conversations are.

    Or they needed to exchange DNA.  Or cash.

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  25. mollysmom Inactive
    mollysmom
    @mollys mom

    At one point yesterday, a TV reporter broke the news that the emails being reviewed belonged to Anthony Weiner.  All of a sudden I laughed out loud…this has got to be the script for a Mel Brooks comedy:  outlandishly ridiculous and funny as hell.

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  26. RightAngles Member
    RightAngles
    @RightAngles

    Richard Fulmer:I always had the sense that Bill Clinton liked playing with fire – it was part of the allure. I don’t get that feeling from Hillary. She wants to be in control, wants to play it safe. But her need for security led her to put the country’s security in jeopardy. In a play to keep her official e-mails private, she inadvertently opened them up to the world.

    Gennifer Flowers (who doesn’t even know how to spell her own name) said as much about him. She said that once they had sex in a powder room in the governor’s mansion during an event where there were hundreds of people outside the door. I agree re your assessment of Hillary.

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  27. Kate Braestrup Member
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    @GrannyDude

    RightAngles:

    Richard Fulmer:I always had the sense that Bill Clinton liked playing with fire – it was part of the allure. I don’t get that feeling from Hillary. She wants to be in control, wants to play it safe. But her need for security led her to put the country’s security in jeopardy. In a play to keep her official e-mails private, she inadvertently opened them up to the world.

    Gennifer Flowers (who doesn’t even know how to spell her own name) said as much about him. She said that once they had sex in a powder room in the governor’s mansion during an event where there were hundreds of people outside the door. I agree re your assessment of Hillary.

    Well, except that she’s married to the guy—and Bill has always and forever been Bill. Textbook co-dependency! she needs him to take risks (political as well as sexual) and he needs her to rein him in (by throwing The People’s Antiques, if need be). As my mother often says, darkly, “she’s getting her jollies out of this somehow.”

    Hillary was Bill’s “beard,” proof that his sexual assaults indiscretions couldn’t possibly be that bad. Bill is Hillary’s “beard,” too– she’s a.) not lesbian and b.) not culpable. (She’s a victim!)

    Whatever the dark psychological underpinnings, they’re pretty much set in stone by this time. Had their weird little system not worked—that is, had it been met with painful disaster a few times, inflicting agony sufficient to force change—one or both might have gone the Profumo route and be remembered kindly (if not quite knighted). But theirs is a weird sort of genius.

    And luck. After all, had texting images of your doodads been a “thing” in the mid-nineties, do we doubt that Bill’s sad junk would’ve wound up on the internet for all to see in perpetuity?

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  28. Songwriter Inactive
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    @user_19450

    If ever some brave soul dares to produce a complete and factual history of the Clintons’ corrupt and deceptive practices, I believe the full truth of their collective depravity will shock even the most jaded and cynical among us. Together they have sought and reached the very heights of political power with never a thought for anyone but themselves. They are evil. (And I write that with no sense of hyperbole.)

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  29. David Deeble Member
    David Deeble
    @DavidDeeble

    Metalheaddoc:The newly humble and contrite Mr. Weiner has announced that he intends to fund and be fully engaged in his new non-profit charity: The Anthony Weiner Home for Wayward Cheerleaders and Teenage Nymphomaniacs. Bill Clinton is the honorary chairman emeritus. Please donate. Hard and often.

    I’ll work up a logo and tweet – er, – DM it to you.

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  30. RightAngles Member
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    @RightAngles

    Maybe I’m old-fashioned but I miss the days when you were expected to bow-out of public life the moment your penis appeared on the internet. 

    This made me laugh out loud!

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