What Departments Would You Dissolve?

 

What three federal government departments would you immediately dissolve, if you could? Feel free to offer an explanation of why or just list them.

The three that I’d eliminate:

  1. Department of Education
  2. Housing and Urban Development
  3. Homeland Security

DOE, self explanatory. Get the federal government out of college financing. End the the “free money” manipulation game for High Schools, Colleges, and College students. Colleges would need to model themselves after Hillsdale or shutter their doors.

HUD, Fannie and Freddie…

Homeland Security, created in 2002 and already the third largest department. Just leads to further bloating of our anti-terror programs.

So, Ricochetti what are the first three departments that you would dissolve?

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  1. Arahant Member
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    Why limit it to three? I would only keep four…after I had renamed DoD back to the Department of War. Then, State, Treasury, and the Office of the Attorney General. If those four were good enough for Washington, they would be good enough for me.

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  2. Robert McReynolds Member
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    All of them with no link to 1787. And I would reinstate the Department of War.

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  3. Johnnie Alum 13 Inactive
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    Arahant:

    Why limit it to three? I would only keep four…after I had renamed DoD back to the Department of War. Then, State, Treasury, and the Office of the Attorney General. If those four were good enough for Washington, they would be good enough for me.

    I’d be happy going back to the initial four!

    Just wanted to make the transition a little incremental.

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  4. Arahant Member
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    Johnnie Alum 13: Just wanted to make the transition a little incremental.

    Incrementalism is for the other guys. Hit ’em with the brickbat.

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  5. Lidens Cheng Member
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    Add Interior, Labor and Agriculture to your list and we’re up to a good start.

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  6. Jamie Lockett Member
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    Cabinet level?

    Education

    Labor

    Homeland Security

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  7. I Walton Member
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    Keep the Forest service and dissolve Agriculture,

    Keep the Park Service and dissolve Interior

    Keep the census and dissolve USDOC

    Keep NRC and disolve Energy

    Keep the Services and dissolve DOD

    Keep the Foreign Service and dissolve State, USAID USIS, and the foreign services of Treasury, Agriculture, and FBI.  Cut the Foreign Service by half.

    Keep most of it’s parts but dissolve homeland Security and cut them all by half

    Keep nothing and dissolve Education, Labor and HHS

    Take all regulatory authority from the Fed and give it one objective, price stability.  Cut it by half and give it a monetary rule.

    At least these are good places to begin.

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  8. Mike H Inactive
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    The Executive, Legislative, and Judicial? ;)

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  9. Johnnie Alum 13 Inactive
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    Mike H:The Executive, Legislative, and Judicial? ?

    That’s the way to clean up the mess!

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  10. Johnnie Alum 13 Inactive
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    Jamie Lockett:Cabinet level?

    Education

    Labor

    Homeland Security

    Yes, I was thinking at the cabinet level. The list would grow ever larger if we included the various agencies, commissions, etc.

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  11. philo Member
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    EPA

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  12. Western Chauvinist Member
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    Don’t forget the EPA.

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  13. Arahant Member
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    See how much easier my way is? You don’t have to remember all the current ones, just the few that you’re going to keep.

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  14. Hoyacon Member
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    Education, Education,  Education.

    People who want to eliminate Homeland Security need to be a bit more specific about what to do with the component agencies.  It’s all well and good to eliminate CPB and the Secret Service (among others), but what’s the plan, if any, to replace them.

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  15. Johnnie Alum 13 Inactive
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    Hoyacon:Education, Education, Education.

    People who want to eliminate Homeland Security need to be a bit more specific about what to do with the component agencies. It’s all well and good to eliminate CPB and the Secret Service (among others), but what’s the plan, if any, to replace them.

    Concerning Homeland Security, we had the secret service long before HS was established. The secret service was established in 1865; HS in 2002. HS is mostly a retread of DOD, I think if we eliminated it any purpose it serves would easily be taken up by DOD.

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  16. RightAngles Member
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    -EPA

    -Dept of Education

    -Interior

    -Labor

    Let’s get back to basics. And while we are at it, let’s send every last one of the senators and congressmen home and start over with citizen legislators who have to go back home within a specified time and live under the cockamamie laws they pass.

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  17. Hoyacon Member
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    Johnnie Alum 13:

    Hoyacon:Education, Education, Education.

    People who want to eliminate Homeland Security need to be a bit more specific about what to do with the component agencies. It’s all well and good to eliminate CPB and the Secret Service (among others), but what’s the plan, if any, to replace them.

    Concerning Homeland Security, we had the secret service long before HS was established. The secret service was established in 1865; HS in 2002. HS is mostly a retread of DOD, I think if we eliminated it any purpose it serves would easily be taken up by DOD.

    OK, but my point is that Homeland Security is made of nine (?) component agencies.  One needs to be a little clearer if one wants to just break up the agency and redistribute its duties or whether one wants to eliminate its duties altogether.

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  18. Johnnie Alum 13 Inactive
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    Hoyacon:

    Johnnie Alum 13:

    Hoyacon:Education, Education, Education.

    People who want to eliminate Homeland Security need to be a bit more specific about what to do with the component agencies. It’s all well and good to eliminate CPB and the Secret Service (among others), but what’s the plan, if any, to replace them.

    Concerning Homeland Security, we had the secret service long before HS was established. The secret service was established in 1865; HS in 2002. HS is mostly a retread of DOD, I think if we eliminated it any purpose it serves would easily be taken up by DOD.

    OK, but my point is that Homeland Security is made of nine (?) component agencies. One needs to be a little clearer if one wants to just break up the agency and redistribute its duties or whether one wants to eliminate its duties altogether.

    OK.

    Eliminate the TSA.

    Merge the US Immigration and Customs Enforcement, US Customs and Border Protection, and US Citizenship and Immigration Services into one agency. That merger, if executed properly, would reduce staff.

    Eliminate FEMA.

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  19. Douglas Inactive
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    Arahant:

    Why limit it to three?

    Same question here.

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  20. Bartholomew Xerxes Ogilvie, Jr. Coolidge
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    Yeah, I agree that it’s hard to limit it to just three.

    Looking at the list, I think I’d be entirely comfortable eliminating any department established after 1850. The exception is Defense, but only because that one replaced the old War Department.

    I’m tempted to say eliminate all of them and make Congress reauthorize (and fund) the ones that we really need.

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  21. Johnnie Alum 13 Inactive
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    Bartholomew Xerxes Ogilvie, Jr.:Yeah, I agree that it’s hard to limit it to just three.

    Looking at the list, I think I’d be entirely comfortable eliminating any department established after 1850. The exception is Defense, but only because that one replaced the old War Department.

    I’m tempted to say eliminate all of them and make Congress reauthorize (and fund) the ones that we really need.

    And implement zero-based budgeting. No more automatic annual budget increases.

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  22. RightAngles Member
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    Johnnie Alum 13:Eliminate the TSA.

    Yes! The last time I flew, the TSA agent searched my ponytail and ruined my hair.

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  23. JimGoneWild Coolidge
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    EPA and HHS.

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  24. RyanM Inactive
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    Department of education

    Bureau of land management

    EPA (does that count?)

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  25. Johnnie Alum 13 Inactive
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    RyanM:Department of education

    Bureau of land management

    EPA (does that count?)

    I think that EPA is a given, and allowed. I think that they are under the control of the USDA or Interior? But yes, EPA most definitely must go!

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  26. Mike LaRoche Inactive
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    Energy, Homeland Security, and Education.

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  27. Mark Darris Inactive
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    I think the obvious answer to the query ‘why limit it to three’ is the techno imposed limit of a maximum of 250 words….sheez…

    Another way to ask the question, and certainly stay within the three item maximum, would be: “name the three departments you’d like to keep.”  Much easier…

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  28. Front Seat Cat Member
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    IRS – we need a new system of tax collection – has become corrupt

    EPA – something’s very wrong  – has become corrupt – start over

    Department of Education – Common Core, not allowing states control over their schools, poor school building conditions, terrible mandatory lunches, too much testing, not allowing teachers to teach and be creative, something’s wrong here – needs a do-over.

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  29. Randal H Member
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    Front Seat Cat:IRS – we need a new system of tax collection – has become corrupt

    EPA – something’s very wrong – has become corrupt – start over

    Department of Education – Common Core, not allowing states control over their schools, poor school building conditions, terrible mandatory lunches, too much testing, not allowing teachers to teach and be creative, something’s wrong here – needs a do-over.

    These would be my three as well.

    Edit: My idea of a new system of tax collection would be to repeal the 16th amendment and fund the federal government from money collected by the states. I would eliminate the ability of the federal government to tax the people directly. The states could decide how much to fund the federal government. This is the one part of the Articles of Confederation that we should have kept.

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  30. philo Member
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    Front Seat Cat: EPA – something’s very wrong – has become corrupt – start over

    I say just eliminate it.  Fifty state agencies (if every state chooses to have one) is sufficient.

    On a related note, I would also say to eliminate the position of “Ambassador to the United Nations” but that may be hard to pull off.  Instead, assuming I could not get the genuine article, as President I would require whoever I placed in that position to wear a Bozo the Clown outfit to all official functions related to his/her job.

    [That may be a more enduring statement tha[n] just dropping out…and I like the optics of it.]

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