Rush: I Never Took Trump Seriously on Immigration

 

Many conservatives were frustrated during the primaries to see the entertainment wing of the GOP promote the candidacy of the distinctly non-conservative Donald Trump. AM talk radio hosts, Fox News commentators, and best-selling authors made their fortunes by condemning countless Republican office holders as RINOs, squishes, and sell-outs because they made promises on immigration that they refused to keep once in office.

While few entertainers out-and-out endorsed Trump, a majority cheered on his candidacy despite of his lifetime of flip flops and funding liberal Democrats. Whether it was for ratings, access, or personal friendship, their early boosterism of The Donald helped many self-defined conservatives accept the New York b millionaire as a true-blue Republican. But with Trump’s disorganized retreat from his get-tough immigration policy, Rush Limbaugh admitted today that he never took Trump seriously on the issue.

Allow me to speak for every supporter of the 16 other GOP primary candidates: Now you tell us.

Like this post? Want to comment? Join Ricochet’s growing community of conservatives and be part of the conversation. Get your first month free.

There are 80 comments.

  1. 1
  2. 2
  3. 3
  1. Member

    Where’s Steyn?

    • #1
    • August 29, 2016, at 2:56 PM PDT
    • Like
  2. Member

    Basil Fawlty:Where’s Steyn?

    One of his months long walkabouts, which seem to happen when ever there is an election coming up.

    • #2
    • August 29, 2016, at 3:03 PM PDT
    • Like
  3. Member

    Marco Rubio, 2010 – “Well, we have a path for citizenship. It’s called coming legally into this country.”

    This, on the other hand, want not craven and dishonest. Not at all. Yet he is still the Wonder Boy of the Establishment.

    • #3
    • August 29, 2016, at 3:07 PM PDT
    • Like
  4. Inactive

    Isn’t it amazing how these radio guys are never wrong?

    • #4
    • August 29, 2016, at 3:09 PM PDT
    • Like
  5. Inactive

    BD:Marco Rubio, 2010 – “Well, we have a path for citizenship. It’s called coming legally into this country.”

    This, on the other hand, want not craven and dishonest. Not at all. Yet he is still the Wonder Boy of the Establishment.

    That’s all you have? But…but…but…RUBIO!!

    • #5
    • August 29, 2016, at 3:11 PM PDT
    • Like
  6. Member

    Jamie Lockett:

    BD:Marco Rubio, 2010 – “Well, we have a path for citizenship. It’s called coming legally into this country.”

    This, on the other hand, want not craven and dishonest. Not at all. Yet he is still the Wonder Boy of the Establishment.

    That’s all you have? But…but…but…RUBIO!!

    Yeah, so why don’t you care that Rubio lied about his immigration stance? I’m not voting for Trump, but I’m guessing you’re still a Rubio fan.

    • #6
    • August 29, 2016, at 3:14 PM PDT
    • Like
  7. Coolidge

    I will never forgive Trump Limbaugh and the “Trump Limbaugh, All Trump, All the Time” radio show for helping to destroy our nation with his unfathomable support for the least conservative candidate in a very strong field of candidates.

    I guess his audience was mostly mind numbed robots after all.

    • #7
    • August 29, 2016, at 3:16 PM PDT
    • Like
  8. Inactive

    BD:

    Jamie Lockett:

    BD:Marco Rubio, 2010 – “Well, we have a path for citizenship. It’s called coming legally into this country.”

    This, on the other hand, want not craven and dishonest. Not at all. Yet he is still the Wonder Boy of the Establishment.

    That’s all you have? But…but…but…RUBIO!!

    Yeah, so why don’t you care that Rubio lied about his immigration stance? I’m not voting for Trump, but I’m guessing you’re still a Rubio fan.

    I care about more than immigration and immigration wasn’t the signature issue that Rubio ran on in 2016.

    • #8
    • August 29, 2016, at 3:17 PM PDT
    • Like
  9. Member

    Judge Mental:

    Basil Fawlty:Where’s Steyn?

    One of his months long walkabouts, which seem to happen when ever there is an election coming up.

    Yes. He’s known for avoiding fraught situations.

    • #9
    • August 29, 2016, at 3:20 PM PDT
    • Like
  10. Member

    Jamie Lockett:

    BD:

    Jamie Lockett:

    BD:Marco Rubio, 2010 – “Well, we have a path for citizenship. It’s called coming legally into this country.”

    This, on the other hand, want not craven and dishonest. Not at all. Yet he is still the Wonder Boy of the Establishment.

    That’s all you have? But…but…but…RUBIO!!

    Yeah, so why don’t you care that Rubio lied about his immigration stance? I’m not voting for Trump, but I’m guessing you’re still a Rubio fan.

    I care about more than immigration and immigration wasn’t the signature issue that Rubio ran on in 2016.

    I would guess that you care about immigration enforcement about as much as Ted Kennedy did.

    • #10
    • August 29, 2016, at 3:20 PM PDT
    • Like
  11. Member

    Basil Fawlty:

    Judge Mental:

    Basil Fawlty:Where’s Steyn?

    One of his months long walkabouts, which seem to happen when ever there is an election coming up.

    Yes. He’s known for avoiding fraught situations.

    I wasn’t being judgmental (see what I did there?), I was just pointing out that they always seem to coincide with the times you would most like to hear him.

    • #11
    • August 29, 2016, at 3:22 PM PDT
    • Like
  12. Member

    Huh, you mean he’s not going to build the wall? You mean he’s not going to nominate Supreme Court justices from his Federalist Society list? The NRA is going to stop supporting him? He’s not going to repatriate $2++ billions of tax inverted profits? You mean he’s not going to reduce corporate taxes, radically simplify the tax code, reduce regulation, end the death tax, keep God in the public sphere, be tough on crime, expand and restructure the military, curtail the EPA, cut environmental regulation, restructure social security, support school vouchers, charter, and magnet schools, dump common core, defund the Dept. of Education, stop cap and tax, build the Keystone Pipeline, oppose green energy boondoggles, question the global warming hoax, and support federalism?

    • #12
    • August 29, 2016, at 3:24 PM PDT
    • Like
  13. Coolidge

    BD:I would guess that you care about immigration enforcement about as much as Ted Kennedy did.

    Immigration was not a real issue. The issue was socialism and marxism. Immigration problems were just a symptom. Trump tapped into xenophobic reactions to immigration and now we’ll probably get a return of democrats to office. After watching the lawlessness of the Clinton I and Obama presidencies, I shudder to think what will happen.

    Immigration will be the least of our problems in four years.

    • #13
    • August 29, 2016, at 3:25 PM PDT
    • Like
  14. Inactive

    BD:

    Jamie Lockett:

    BD:

    Jamie Lockett:

    BD:Marco Rubio, 2010 – “Well, we have a path for citizenship. It’s called coming legally into this country.”

    This, on the other hand, want not craven and dishonest. Not at all. Yet he is still the Wonder Boy of the Establishment.

    That’s all you have? But…but…but…RUBIO!!

    Yeah, so why don’t you care that Rubio lied about his immigration stance? I’m not voting for Trump, but I’m guessing you’re still a Rubio fan.

    I care about more than immigration and immigration wasn’t the signature issue that Rubio ran on in 2016.

    I would guess that you care about immigration enforcement about as much as Ted Kennedy did.

    You could just ask me.

    • #14
    • August 29, 2016, at 3:28 PM PDT
    • Like
  15. Member

    Although always cynical about Politicians (yet hopelessly addicted to Politics) I considered myself a far-left Liberal until the past year. The only difference in my life being that I cord-cut and started looking for Podcasts based on political thought rather than punditry. Seeing myself as a fair and balanced (im really just using the term) person, I considered Liberals flawed, but at least they faced more truths. In this mindset I stumbled on @jon Gabriel’s Podcast and decided to listen as it seemed to be the most sensible Conservative broadcast I could find.

    Immediately, I was yelling knee-jerk positions to myself, which I have always considered to be the response to beliefs that we haven’t investigated to be true. Long story short, in trying to validate being a Liberal lets say I ended up making people very angry with simple questions for which I genuinely just wanted answers. Conservatism is the natural choice for the Republic. I know how Liberals are deceived by Hobbesian traps set by Democrats. Why GOP retaliates by setting their own, I won’t speculate, but I will say it seems to be backfiring (at least more so) for them. I’d like to think its because y’all want the truth more.

    • #15
    • August 29, 2016, at 3:34 PM PDT
    • Like
  16. Member

    Judge Mental:

    Basil Fawlty:

    Judge Mental:

    Basil Fawlty:Where’s Steyn?

    One of his months long walkabouts, which seem to happen when ever there is an election coming up.

    Yes. He’s known for avoiding fraught situations.

    I wasn’t being judgmental (see what I did there?), I was just pointing out that they always seem to coincide with the times you would most like to hear him.

    I’m alway eager to hear from him. Any time he’s missing is a disappointment for me.

    • #16
    • August 29, 2016, at 3:40 PM PDT
    • Like
  17. Thatcher

    Basil Fawlty:Where’s Steyn?

    Probably somewhere inhospitable defending western values and free speech whatever the cost or threat.

    • #17
    • August 29, 2016, at 3:42 PM PDT
    • Like
  18. Member

    Jon Gabriel, Ed.: But with Trump’s disorganized retreat from his get-tough immigration policy, Rush Limbaugh admitted today that he never took Trump seriously on the issue.

    Yeah, heard him…. Of course it makes sense tack right for the primary, tack left for the general. Get those on the right to believe you are not PC, gonna stick it to the establishment and are the only one who can make America great again. Then in your general tack, just assume that now those who put you in as gop nominee won’t abandon you. Politics as usual…

    • #18
    • August 29, 2016, at 3:42 PM PDT
    • Like
  19. Member

    Rush has a bit of realism about certain things. For example, he has always said that a flat tax, fair tax, or similar idea would never happen as the United States Congress is never going to give up their favorite tool to control the social architecture.

    Immigration was never his big issue, although he’s never been a big fan of John McCain and Lindsey Graham. That has more to do with just the single issue of immigration. Rush was always more of a Ronald Reagan-Antonin Scalia-Bill Bennett-Jack Kemp-Steve Forbes-Fred Thompson-Rudy Giuliani guy than some type of Pat Buchanan-21st Century Alt-Right guy.

    • #19
    • August 29, 2016, at 3:52 PM PDT
    • Like
  20. Member

    The Cloaked Gaijin: Rush was always more of a Ronald Reagan-Antonin Scalia-Bill Bennett-Jack Kemp-Steve Forbes-Fred Thompson-Rudy Giuliani guy than some type of Pat Buchanan-21st Century Alt-Right guy.

    Which doesn’t jive with his Trump support…

    • #20
    • August 29, 2016, at 4:02 PM PDT
    • Like
  21. Member

    Geoff: In this mindset I stumbled on @jon Gabriel’s Podcast and decided to listen as it seemed to be the most sensible Conservative broadcast I could find.

    Check out the Federalist Radio Hour. I think you would like it, as well.

    • #21
    • August 29, 2016, at 4:04 PM PDT
    • Like
  22. Member

    Question for the commenters — how many people who heard Trump actually thought it would be converted to a round up and run ’em out? I get the emotion. I wish a magic wand existed to right of all the wrongs that have been done. I don’t doubt that Trump truly wished it could be done without blowback. But it was articulating a feeling of being aggrieved against the scofflaws and those seeking to take advantage of us. It was venting. That plus Trump’s penchant for always doubling down on a venting. So why all of the surprise now that this or that pundit never really thought Trump would do it? I never thought Trump would do it. I am still voting for him in an A/B election cause I don’t really want to aid an abet the coming criminal enterprise that is the Clinton II Administration. And I have no illusions that Trump will Make America Great Again (at least in the way I would define greatness). I am settling. Rush is settling. We’re all settling as we are now beyond any other choice.

    • #22
    • August 29, 2016, at 4:15 PM PDT
    • Like
  23. Member

    Herbert:

    The Cloaked Gaijin: Rush was always more of a Ronald Reagan-Antonin Scalia-Bill Bennett-Jack Kemp-Steve Forbes-Fred Thompson-Rudy Giuliani guy than some type of Pat Buchanan-21st Century Alt-Right guy.

    Which doesn’t jive with his Trump support…

    To elaborate, why wasn’t Rush from the git-go, telling us how Reagan, kemp, Forbes…. Had positive vision for America, thought government was a hinderance to America and its influence should be reduced. Put forth a positive, uplifting view of conservatism. Had ideology consistent with conservatism. And how trump was deficient in these aspects.

    My theory….. He figured Trump would flame out, like most of the rest of us did, so thought he would use him to bash establishment til that happened. Trump gathered momentum…then it was to late, so he caved on his principles and backed him….

    • #23
    • August 29, 2016, at 4:16 PM PDT
    • Like
  24. Member

    Herbert:

    The Cloaked Gaijin: Rush was always more of a Ronald Reagan-Antonin Scalia-Bill Bennett-Jack Kemp-Steve Forbes-Fred Thompson-Rudy Giuliani guy than some type of Pat Buchanan-21st Century Alt-Right guy.

    Which doesn’t jive with his Trump support…

    I hate cultural appropriation.

    • #24
    • August 29, 2016, at 4:19 PM PDT
    • Like
  25. Member

    Skyler: Immigration will be the least of our problems in four years.

    Probably. It will have become an intractable reality

    • #25
    • August 29, 2016, at 4:23 PM PDT
    • Like
  26. Member

    Thaddeus Wert:

    Geoff: In this mindset I stumbled on @jon Gabriel’s Podcast and decided to listen as it seemed to be the most sensible Conservative broadcast I could find.

    Check out the Federalist Radio Hour. I think you would like it, as well.

    Will do, thanks for the recommend.

    • #26
    • August 29, 2016, at 4:23 PM PDT
    • Like
  27. Member

    Geoff:

    Thaddeus Wert:

    Geoff: In this mindset I stumbled on @jon Gabriel’s Podcast and decided to listen as it seemed to be the most sensible Conservative broadcast I could find.

    Check out the Federalist Radio Hour. I think you would like it, as well.

    Will do, thanks for the recommend.

    Digression, another reason I picked his podcast is we are both fans of Dan Carlin’s Hardcore History–actually that’s what made me believe he was sincere now to think of it. Because as a History Grad, Dan Carlin said things I didn’t agree with and made me deal with my own sincerity.

    • #27
    • August 29, 2016, at 4:25 PM PDT
    • Like
  28. Member

    Basil Fawlty:

    Herbert:

    The Cloaked Gaijin: Rush was always more of a Ronald Reagan-Antonin Scalia-Bill Bennett-Jack Kemp-Steve Forbes-Fred Thompson-Rudy Giuliani guy than some type of Pat Buchanan-21st Century Alt-Right guy.

    Which doesn’t jive with his Trump support…

    I hate cultural appropriation.

    I’ll provide a trigger warning just for you in the future..

    • #28
    • August 29, 2016, at 4:29 PM PDT
    • Like
  29. Inactive

    Herbert:

    Herbert:

    The Cloaked Gaijin: Rush was always more of a Ronald Reagan-Antonin Scalia-Bill Bennett-Jack Kemp-Steve Forbes-Fred Thompson-Rudy Giuliani guy than some type of Pat Buchanan-21st Century Alt-Right guy.

    Which doesn’t jive with his Trump support…

    To elaborate, why wasn’t Rush from the git-go, telling us how Reagan, kemp, Forbes…. Had positive vision for America, thought government was a hinderance to America and its influence should be reduced. Put forth a positive, uplifting view of conservatism. Had ideology consistent with conservatism. And how trump was deficient in these aspects.

    My theory….. He figured Trump would flame out, like most of the rest of us did, so thought he would use him to bash establishment til that happened. Trump gathered momentum…then it was to late, so he caved on his principles and backed him….

    I think your theory is pretty close to the truth. This is exactly what Mark Levin was doing until Trump started going after Ted Cruz, then Levin changed sides in about January.

    • #29
    • August 29, 2016, at 4:50 PM PDT
    • Like
  30. Inactive

    In fairness to Rush, he said very clearly that Trump wasn’t a conservative. Coming from him that is the opposite of an endorsement

    • #30
    • August 29, 2016, at 4:53 PM PDT
    • Like
  1. 1
  2. 2
  3. 3