Ann Coulter Visits the Harvard Lunch Club

 

CoulterThis week my partner Todd Feinburg and I welcome the inimitable Ann Coulter to the Harvard Lunch Club Political Podcast for the, what else, Ann Coulter Is Here edition. Ann talks – teasingly – about her new book (to be released Aug. 23) In Trump We Trust, E Pluribus Awesome, about stifling cries of joy over Brexit while landing at LAX in first-class, about the end of the world if Hillary is elected President, and about New Year’s Eve with Matt Drudge (and what they came up with together)!

Here are a few excerpts:

About the #NeverTrump movement and those in the donor class who hire illegal aliens:

I think it’s probably helping Trump. I mean Hillary is the candidate of Wall Street, of big donors, of the globalists, and Trump is the Party of Americans. We’ll see how it shakes out. Any donors who care more about their own pocketbooks and not the culture and the country – fine, good riddance to them.

The #NeverTrump crowd who are the political ones, [in] Washington DC, you can’t go anyplace near that city right now because [they’re] not even political consultants or lobbyists for the Chamber of Commerce, it’s something in the water there. I think their entire reason for being is irrelevant now.

As for what if Hillary is elected President?

I do think that Trump has a better than even chance to be the next President. I will say at least that much. But that leaves a 49 percent chance for the end of the world. And it is the end of the world if it’s Hillary. I gotta tell you, I thought it was [the end of the world] the day Romney lost.

This shows you how Donald Trump has shaken up my world and I don’t care what he retweets and I don’t care that he was a reality TV star and I don’t care about the gold fixtures. The best we ever had on immigration until Donald Trump was Mitt Romney because he at least said he would enforce E-Verify and illegals would go home the same way they came. He was the first one – the best we had. I mean before that it was McCain, it was Bush.

Maybe we’re already past the tipping point. We’ll find out: have they wired the system? Is it too late? And if Hillary wins, you build a bunker and hire the cheap labor because America is over.

How about Trump’s choice for VP? (Your humble correspondent suggests Sen. Jeff Sessions.):

Well, the only reason I don’t want it to be Sessions is I want to keep him where he is. He’s going to [need to] be as much help as he can be to Trump. I think the two things Trump has to think about the most are: he can’t pick a nominee who, sometime during the fall, when the media goes crazy over the next Mexican judge comment or something says: “I cannot run with this man. I’m withdrawing my name from nomination.”

Do not tell me that is not a strong possibility, your career would be made for life. You’ll get more Vanity Fair covers than Megyn Kelly. You’ll get two Vanity Fair covers, and Vogue and you’ll be Time Magazine Man of the Year, you’ll sit on boards, your life will be made.

And the other thing is once he’s President, if he doesn’t have someone who’s absolutely dedicated to the same things we are, i.e., immigration, they’ll impeach him. Both the Democrats and Republicans would impeach Trump in order to get a President Corker … or a President Huckleberry.

But who does Ann think will make a great choice for VP? Listen here for the answer.

And there is so much more: thoughts on Charles Murray, whom she takes on in her new book, why Trump is not really like a 16-year-old that you have to bail out of jail occasionally, and (you’ll need to listen to the podcast for this one) what Ann and Matt Drudge were doing that New Year’s Eve a year and a half ago. (Hint: you are already familiar with the result.)

The place to find the whole interview (did I mention it already?) is right here.

Enjoy!

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  1. Columbo Inactive
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    livingthehighlife:

    Michael Stopa: I do think that Trump has a better than even chance to be the next President. I will say at least that much. But that leaves a 49 percent chance for the end of the world. And it is the end of the world if it’s Hillary. I gotta tell you, I thought it was [the end of the world] the day Romney lost.

    A Hillary win won’t be the end of the world, and she’s 4 years late to the end of America. That happened in 2012.

    A Hillary win will be the end of the world for a great number of patriotic Americans.

    Mssrs. Stephens, Smith, Doherty and Woods were unavailable to provide support to this assertion.

    • #31
  2. Franco Member
    Franco
    @Franco

    Marion Evans:Of course she loves Trump. He is just like her, provocative without substance.

    Not exactly true. Sure she’s provocative and uses similar media tactics as Trump does, but Adios America and her other books absolutely have substance.

    Once you realize that they will hate you  no matter what and they will say the same things about  nicest guy in the world Romney as they will say about Trump (or  close) it doesn’t matter any more. We have to deal with this directly. Might as well have it out in the open with them. She’s joking most of the time, people! She’s getting attention. Oh, I know, that’s supposed to be bad, but what good is boring reason and sound policy when they will ignore that and focus on the story where you beat up some kid in 4th grade?

    Often I disagree with her and say, Whaaaa? Like the Chris Christie worship. But she’s right on immigration and many other things and many of her jokes hit the left right where it hurts, which is why they detest her.

    Next is our side getting over the idea that any one of us is supposed to represent all of us. Playing that game – reacting by disavowing the person – is a loser. We can just laugh it off. Name one crazy Democrat (and there are tons!) who the left is ashamed of.

    You are not going to change minds without getting attention first. 

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  3. Mister D Inactive
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    @MisterD

    Good episode, though I believe Ann is engaging in wishful thinking. Unfortunately, both you and she again project ulterior motives on the part of NeverTrumpers, apparently refusing to believe we simply find him unfit for office.

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  4. Michael Stopa Member
    Michael Stopa
    @MichaelStopa

    James Lileks:Did Ann ever find out how many Effing Jews they are in America? I thought that was a piquant and compelling line of inquiry.

    This is still my favorite tweet: “I don’t care if @realDonaldTrump wants to perform abortions in White House after this immigration policy paper.” Exhibit A when people say that the right is too uptight and doesn’t have a sense of humor.

    James, what do you think should be done with the 11 million illegal aliens already in the United States?

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  5. Richard Fulmer Inactive
    Richard Fulmer
    @RichardFulmer

    JimGoneWild:

    Richard Fulmer:Note to Ann: Trump ain’t God

    Wait. What?

    Look again at her book’s title.

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  6. JamesAtkins Member
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    goldwaterwoman:

    Mike LaRoche: Do #NeverTrumpers have any credibility outside Ricochet?

    NO.

    So I’m invalid…Seems a little judgmental; how does this fit into the CoC policy against personal attacks?

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  7. Richard Fulmer Inactive
    Richard Fulmer
    @RichardFulmer

    JamesAtkins:

    goldwaterwoman:

    Mike LaRoche: Do #NeverTrumpers have any credibility outside Ricochet?

    NO.

    So I’m invalid…Seems a little judgmental; how does this fit into the CoC policy against personal attacks?

    James, This is very mild stuff – hardly a CoC policy violation.  It does, however, demonstrate one of the Left’s favorite debating techniques: Simply dismiss the opposition rather than respond with facts and logic.

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  8. Marion Evans Inactive
    Marion Evans
    @MarionEvans

    Franco:

    Marion Evans:

    Not exactly true. Sure she’s provocative and uses similar media tactics as Trump does, but Adios America and her other books absolutely have substance.

    Once you realize that they will hate you no matter what and they will say the same things about nicest guy in the world Romney as they will say about Trump (or close) it doesn’t matter any more. We have to deal with this directly. Might as well have it out in the open with them. She’s joking most of the time, people! She’s getting attention. Oh, I know, that’s supposed to be bad, but what good is boring reason and sound policy when they will ignore that and focus on the story where you beat up some kid in 4th grade?

    Often I disagree with her and say, Whaaaa? Like the Chris Christie worship. But she’s right on immigration and many other things and many of her jokes hit the left right where it hurts, which is why they detest her.

    Next is our side getting over the idea that any one of us is supposed to represent all of us. Playing that game – reacting by disavowing the person – is a loser. We can just laugh it off. Name one crazy Democrat (and there are tons!) who the left is ashamed of.

    You are not going to change minds without getting attention first.

    Kim Kardashian gets attention. What is she saying about the economy?

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  9. Franco Member
    Franco
    @Franco

    Marion Evans:

    Franco:

    Marion Evans:

    Not exactly true. Sure she’s provocative and uses similar media tactics as Trump does, but Adios America and her other books absolutely have substance.

    We have to deal with this directly. Might as well have it out in the open with them. She’s joking most of the time, people! She’s getting attention. Oh, I know, that’s supposed to be bad, but what good is boring reason and sound policy when they will ignore that and focus on the story where you beat up some kid in 4th grade?

    Often I disagree with her and say, Whaaaa? Like the Chris Christie worship. But she’s right on immigration and many other things and many of her jokes hit the left right where it hurts, which is why they detest her.

    Next is our side getting over the idea that any one of us is supposed to represent all of us. Playing that game – reacting by disavowing the person – is a loser. We can just laugh it off. Name one crazy Democrat (and there are tons!) who the left is ashamed of.

    You are not going to change minds without getting attention first.

    Kim Kardashian gets attention. What is she saying about the economy?

    Ok this isn’t logic, it’s just a rude retort. Coulter is a lawyer and an author and she has knowledge and intelligence. You don’t have to like her or agree with her.

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  10. Tom Meyer, Ed. Member
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    Gentlemen, conversation.

    • #40
  11. Marion Evans Inactive
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    Franco:

    Marion Evans:

    Franco:

    Marion Evans:

    Not exactly true. Sure she’s provocative and uses similar media tactics as Trump does, but Adios America and her other books absolutely have substance.

    We have to deal with this directly…..

    Often I disagree with her and say, Whaaaa? Like the Chris Christie worship. But she’s right on immigration and many other things and many of her jokes hit the left right where it hurts, which is why they detest her.

    Next is our side getting over the idea that any one of us is supposed to represent all of us. Playing that game – reacting by disavowing the person – is a loser. We can just laugh it off. Name one crazy Democrat (and there are tons!) who the left is ashamed of.

    You are not going to change minds without getting attention first.

    Kim Kardashian gets attention. What is she saying about the economy?

    Ok this isn’t logic, it’s just a rude retort. Coulter is a lawyer and an author and she has knowledge and intelligence. You don’t have to like her or agree with her.

    You think that my retort is rude but that Coulter’s vitriol is fine and not rude? Anyway, Kim is an author too, of a bestseller, and must have some knowledge and intelligence.  https://www.amazon.com/Kim-Kardashian-Selfish-West/dp/0789329204

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  12. Freesmith Member
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    James Lileks,

    There are approximately 5.5 million Jews in the US, roughly the same number of American Indians.

    How much time was given to the plight and concerns of American Indians in the Republican primary debates?

    Also, given the recent SCOTUS decision, what is the impediment  stopping abortions from being performed in the White House right now? And what, other than Donald Trump, can change that in 2017?

    Just wonderin’…

    • #42
  13. James Lileks Contributor
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    @jameslileks

    Michael Stopa: James, what do you think should be done with the 11 million illegal aliens already in the United States?

    That’s the big question. Mass deportation isn’t going to happen. Breaking up families, sending the parents home and putting the kids born here into foster care – not going to happen. Deporting all those who commit crimes (aside from the crime of entering illegally) – should happen, can happen, must happen. A path to legalization without full citizen status – a humane compromise. You have to pay a fine, and you can’t vote. Sorry, but you don’t get the rights of someone who played by the rules.

    I’m also in favor of a wall.

    • #43
  14. Cato Rand Inactive
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    @CatoRand

    James Lileks:

    Michael Stopa: James, what do you think should be done with the 11 million illegal aliens already in the United States?

    That’s the big question. Mass deportation isn’t going to happen. Breaking up families, sending the parents home and putting the kids born here into foster care – not going to happen. Deporting all those who commit crimes (aside from the crime of entering illegally) – should happen, can happen, must happen. A path to legalization without full citizen status – a humane compromise. You have to pay a fine, and you can’t vote. Sorry, but you don’t get the rights of someone who played by the rules.

    I’m also in favor of a wall.

    You had me until that wall thing.

    • #44
  15. Richard Fulmer Inactive
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    @RichardFulmer

    Cato, I’m not sure what I think about the wall.  I’m not for completely open borders; I think we ought to try to keep out known terrorists, criminals, and MS13 gang members.  But “ought” cries out for “can.”  How do we keep them out?  A wall would help and it would not be subject to the whims of whoever is in the White House at the moment.  What are your objections to a wall?  Thanks.

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  16. Cato Rand Inactive
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    Richard:

    My objections are largely practical.  Building, maintaining and managing a 2000 mile wall through all those different environments is just not going to work.  The building costs would be obscene, and parts being dismantled before it was even finished.  And if it did somehow get built, and even if it more or less worked to keep land traffic out (which I massively doubt), it wouldn’t address air or boat traffic.  The whole exercise just has this Don Quixote/White Elephant aspect to it.  I’m sure I’d like to keep out most of the same people you would (though I don’t know who MS13 is).  But in the 21st century, just building a big wall isn’t the answer.

    Moreover, in addition to not being a practical tool of immigration policy, it’s a damn ugly symbol that screams “xenophobia” to the world.  The Russians built walls, not us.

    I’m fairly pro-immigrant in theory (with obvious exceptions like you named).    Though I would like to see us pull our heads out of the sand and require some meaningful indicia of assimilation as a condition for permanent residence or citizenship.  I’m not a “let them have sharia in their closed communities if they want” guy nor do I think third generation Americans should have Spanish as their first language and be going to protests waiving Mexican flags.  But this country was built on immigrants and we need them as our native population ages.

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  17. Larry Koler Inactive
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    The wall won’t stop legal immigrants.

    BTW, I think we should have a moratorium on immigration for about 2 decades.

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  18. Franco Member
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  19. Freesmith Member
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    Larry Koler:BTW, I think we should have a moratorium on immigration for about 2 decades.

    Larry, you’re obviously a moderate on this issue.

    I opt for a 40-year moratorium on all immigration. It’s almost biblical.

    Plus Comprehensive Emigration Reform.

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  20. Michael Stopa Member
    Michael Stopa
    @MichaelStopa

    James Lileks:

    Michael Stopa: James, what do you think should be done with the 11 million illegal aliens already in the United States?

    That’s the big question. Mass deportation isn’t going to happen. Breaking up families, sending the parents home and putting the kids born here into foster care – not going to happen. Deporting all those who commit crimes (aside from the crime of entering illegally) – should happen, can happen, must happen. A path to legalization without full citizen status – a humane compromise. You have to pay a fine, and you can’t vote. Sorry, but you don’t get the rights of someone who played by the rules.

    I’m also in favor of a wall.

    Should we force them to learn English too?

    I would say James that you simply won’t ever understand why people are attracted to Trump. You say mass deportation will never happen and dismiss it. Trump is winning because he says it will happen. Full stop.

    The trope is that it is impossible. That trope is pushed by those who don’t want it to happen. The American people, meanwhile, aren’t willing to take seven plus years of Obama and eight years of George W. Bush as proof that it is not possible.

    We will see in November if enough people in fact favor it (because the polls are all conducted by those who want some form of amnesty).

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  21. Michael Stopa Member
    Michael Stopa
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    The question was not what was your evaluation of what is possible, but rather what do you think is right.

    The “isn’t going to happen” is a lovely fig leaf. Prevents people from answering why they don’t want it to happen. Or would you send them all home if it were proved practical?

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  22. Mike LaRoche Inactive
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    Michael Stopa:The question was not what was your evaluation of what is possible, but rather what do you think is right.

    The “isn’t going to happen” is a lovely fig leaf. Prevents people from answering why they don’t want it to happen. Or would you send them all home if it were proved practical?

    Indeed. Many of those same people said Brexit would “never happen,” and yet it did.  And they also said Jeb! would be the inevitable GOP nominee, but he wasn’t.

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  23. Cato Rand Inactive
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    Michael Stopa:Should we force them to learn English too?

    I would say James that you simply won’t ever understand why people are attracted to Trump. You say mass deportation will never happen and dismiss it. Trump is winning because he says it will happen. Full stop.

    The trope is that it is impossible. That trope is pushed by those who don’t want it to happen. The American people, meanwhile, aren’t willing to take seven plus years of Obama and eight years of George W. Bush as proof that it is not possible.

    We will see in November if enough people in fact favor it (because the polls are all conducted by those who want some form of amnesty).

    Wow.  Do you have any idea what’s required to get 11 million people to do something they don’t want to do?  That is not pretty.  Are you really prepared to see America descend to that?   Are you really prepared to see the federal government assume that much power? To exercise that much force against mostly harmless civilians?

    I think the people who claim this is going to happen must necessarily just not have cogitated hard on what they’re saying.  Either that or they are brutal and ruthless and cruel and willing to see atrocities committed in their names to achieve their ends.

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  24. Cato Rand Inactive
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    Michael Stopa:The question was not what was your evaluation of what is possible, but rather what do you think is right.

    The “isn’t going to happen” is a lovely fig leaf. Prevents people from answering why they don’t want it to happen. Or would you send them all home if it were proved practical?

    I would.  If there were a magic wand that would make it happen quickly and without violence or cruelty, I’d be fine seeing every illegal sent home in a poof, to get in line.  Illegal adults with anchor babies would have the babies go with them if there are no legal family members or the like to care for them here.  And we’d have the asylum system available for those who qualify.  But we have laws, and they should be obeyed.  That doesn’t always answer the question of what steps we should take when they’re not though.  When lawbreaking has been so widespread that the de facto law has deviated from the de jure, sometimes reality must be accommodated as a matter of prudence.

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  25. Herbert Member
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    @Herbert

    Michael Stopa:

    Herbert:Does Ann Coulter have any credibility left outside of the Trump brigade?

    Everyone who understands that illegal immigration is far and away the greatest problem facing America today knows that Ann Coulter is the gold standard of conservatism.

    And I don’t know anyone who doesn’t concede that she is one of the best conservative writers out there today.

    I gave up on her when she went off on waiting for the Jews to be “perfected”.

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  26. Mike LaRoche Inactive
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    Great podcast. Just listened to it this evening. Thanks for sharing.

    • #56
  27. Michael Stopa Member
    Michael Stopa
    @MichaelStopa

    Mike LaRoche:Great podcast. Just listened to it this evening. Thanks for sharing.

    Thanks Mike!

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  28. Larry Koler Inactive
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    Mike LaRoche:Great podcast. Just listened to it this evening. Thanks for sharing.

    Yes, great podcast. Thanks for the post.

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  29. Michael Stopa Member
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    Cato Rand:

    Michael Stopa:The question was not what was your evaluation of what is possible, but rather what do you think is right.

    The “isn’t going to happen” is a lovely fig leaf. Prevents people from answering why they don’t want it to happen. Or would you send them all home if it were proved practical?

    I would. If there were a magic wand that would make it happen quickly and without violence or cruelty, I’d be fine seeing every illegal sent home in a poof, to get in line. Illegal adults with anchor babies would have the babies go with them if there are no legal family members or the like to care for them here. And we’d have the asylum system available for those who qualify. But we have laws, and they should be obeyed. That doesn’t always answer the question of what steps we should take when they’re not though. When lawbreaking has been so widespread that the de facto law has deviated from the de jure, sometimes reality must be accommodated as a matter of prudence.

    This is how you do it. There are many other variants. The keys are (1) political will and (2) a transition period.

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  30. Michael Stopa Member
    Michael Stopa
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    Larry Koler:

    Mike LaRoche:Great podcast. Just listened to it this evening. Thanks for sharing.

    Yes, great podcast. Thanks for the post.

    Thanks Larry!

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