UK Voters Decide to Leave EU

 

BrexitWith all the results in, it appears that voters in the UK have chosen Brexit. “Leave” defeated “Remain,” 51.9 percent to 48.1 percent, a lead that held most of the night. ITV, Sky, and BBC have officially declared victory for the sovereignty movement.

Scotland and Northern Ireland were the strongest regions for remaining in the European Union, while England and Wales had the lion’s share of Euroskeptics.

You can see the vote count and read late-breaking news via The Telegraph.

Brexit enthusiast Nigel Farage made the following remarks in response:

“If the predictions now are right, this will be a victory for real people, a victory for ordinary people, a victory for decent people. We have fought against the multinationals, against the big merchant banks, against big politics, against lies against lies, corruption and deceit, and today honesty and decency and belief in nation I think now is going to win.

We will have done it without having to fight, without a single bullet having been fired.

I hope this victory brings down this failed projects and brings us to a Europe of sovereign nation states trading together.

Let June the 23rd go down in our history as our independence day.

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  1. Mister D Inactive
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    As an American my investment in this is mostly theoretical. I admit to having a bias towards and independent UK and less influence by the European bureaucracy. But this is not theoretical – it will have real consequences for real people, many of them impossible to foresee. I am a little uncomfortable with such a big issue being decided by such a narrow margin.

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  2. Cantankerous Homebody Inactive
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    Valiuth: But think how stupid the flag would look without the blue.

    They could just go back to the St. George’s cross on white.  It has a old time crusader feel to it.  Classic designs will be in again!

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  3. Annefy Member
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    Morituri Te:

    Karen Humiston:Wow! Good for the Brits! I know there are strong arguments for both sides, but I can’t imagine turning over our sovereignty to a bunch of foreign bureaucrats.

    Too late. We are ruled from afar by unelected, unaccountable bureaucrats from an utterly alien culture: Washington, DC. They run those of our industries they don’t decide to put out of business. They hyper-regulate and micro-manage all aspects of our lives. Brits could vote to Leave their overlords, but we have no such option. It’s a terrible irony that the colonies who threw off the yoke of oppression over two hundred years ago have shackled themselves with unbreakable chains, while their former colonial masters have found a way to reclaim their own liberty. But bravo to our British friends!

    Dude. You are harshing my buzz.

    I am a Yank first and a Brit second. Tonight has given me some hope. And I haven’t felt hope in a long, long time.

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  4. Mike LaRoche Inactive
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    Leave wins! It is a great day for the entire Anglosphere.

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  5. goldwaterwoman Thatcher
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    Dare I remind us that Trump has been on the side of Brexit while both Obama and Clinton were on the losing side?

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  6. Mike LaRoche Inactive
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    goldwaterwoman:Dare I remind us that Trump has been on the side of Brexit while both Obama and Clinton were on the losing side?

    Trump’s election this fall will be America’s Brexit.

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  7. Valiuth Member
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    goldwaterwoman:Dare I remind us that Trump has been on the side of Brexit while both Obama and Clinton were on the losing side?

    OMG and he is now in Scotland. All part of his 5 dimensional chess game. Now he will run for prime minister.

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  8. goldwaterwoman Thatcher
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    I am so happy for Nigel Firage. This poor guy began this crusade years ago amid much derision from nearly every politician in Britain.

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  9. Joseph Stanko Coolidge
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    “The EU’s failing, the EU’s dying, I hope we’ve knocked the first brick out of the wall.  I hope this is the first step towards a Europe of sovereign nation states, trading together, neighbors together, friends together, but without flags, anthems, or useless old unelected presidents.”

    -Nigel Farage

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  10. Douglas Inactive
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    Joseph Stanko:Scotland voted to Remain 1.6 million to 1.0 million — a considerably larger margin than voted to remain in the UK.

    If I were in charge of the Scottish National Party, I’d immediately be on the phone to EU officials trying to negotiate an arrangement where Scotland is allowed to remain in the EU by leaving the UK. Then I’d call a press conference and announce “if England wants to leave the EU, let them leave. We’re staying.”

    At this rate, England might vote Scotland out before they could even secede. I get the sense that many in England are getting a wee bit tired of Scottish antics.

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  11. goldwaterwoman Thatcher
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    Mike LaRoche:

    goldwaterwoman:Dare I remind us that Trump has been on the side of Brexit while both Obama and Clinton were on the losing side?

    Trump’s election this fall will be America’s Brexit.

    I so hope you are correct. You always seem to know just the right thing to say! ?

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  12. Joseph Stanko Coolidge
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    Mister D: I am a little uncomfortable with such a big issue being decided by such a narrow margin.

    That’s a great point.  There’s a very high bar to amend the U.S. Constitution, and rightly so.  This seems somewhat analogous.

    I’m inclined to think referenda like Brexit or the recent Scottish vote on leaving the U.K., with such major and permanent changes riding on them, should in fairness require something like a 2/3 supermajority to pass.

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  13. Aelreth Member
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    Joseph Stanko:

    Mister D: I am a little uncomfortable with such a big issue being decided by such a narrow margin.

    That’s a great point. There’s a very high bar to amend the U.S. Constitution, and rightly so. This seems somewhat analogous.

    I’m inclined to think referenda like Brexit or the recent Scottish vote on leaving the U.K., with such major and permanent changes riding on them, should in fairness require something like a 2/3 supermajority to pass.

    Did they require a 2/3 to enter such an agreement?

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  14. goldwaterwoman Thatcher
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    Douglas:

    Joseph Stanko:Scotland voted to Remain 1.6 million to 1.0 million — a considerably larger margin than voted to remain in the UK.

    If I were in charge of the Scottish National Party, I’d immediately be on the phone to EU officials trying to negotiate an arrangement where Scotland is allowed to remain in the EU by leaving the UK. Then I’d call a press conference and announce “if England wants to leave the EU, let them leave. We’re staying.”

    At this rate, England might vote Scotland out before they could even secede. I get the sense that many in England are getting a wee bit tired of Scottish antics.

    More than a third of Scots voted to leave. I was quite surprised there were so many.

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  15. Joseph Stanko Coolidge
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    Mister D: As an American my investment in this is mostly theoretical.

    Unless you own stock, then your investment might be more literal than you realize:

    World financial markets plunged as complete results showed a near 52-48 percent split for leaving. The vote created the biggest global financial shock since the 2008 economic crisis, this time with interest rates around the world already at or near zero, stripping policymakers of the means to fight it.

    The pound suffered its biggest one-day fall in history, plunging more than 10 percent against the dollar to hit levels last seen in 1985. The chief ratings officer for Standard & Poor’s told the Financial Times Britain’s AAA credit rating was no longer tenable.

    Futures trading predicted massive opening losses on share markets across Europe. Britain’s FTSE futures and Germany’s Dax futures fell about 9 percent. The euro zone’s Euro Stoxx 50 futures sank more than 11 percent.

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  16. Mister D Inactive
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    Joseph Stanko:

    Mister D: As an American my investment in this is mostly theoretical.

    Unless you own stock, then your investment might be more literal than you realize:

    World financial markets plunged as complete results showed a near 52-48 percent split for leaving. The vote created the biggest global financial shock since the 2008 economic crisis, this time with interest rates around the world already at or near zero, stripping policymakers of the means to fight it.

    The pound suffered its biggest one-day fall in history, plunging more than 10 percent against the dollar to hit levels last seen in 1985. The chief ratings officer for Standard & Poor’s told the Financial Times Britain’s AAA credit rating was no longer tenable.

    Futures trading predicted massive opening losses on share markets across Europe. Britain’s FTSE futures and Germany’s Dax futures fell about 9 percent. The euro zone’s Euro Stoxx 50 futures sank more than 11 percent.

    I don’t anticipate this being a long term problem.

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  17. Mister D Inactive
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    Aelreth:

    Joseph Stanko:

    Mister D: I am a little uncomfortable with such a big issue being decided by such a narrow margin.

    That’s a great point. There’s a very high bar to amend the U.S. Constitution, and rightly so. This seems somewhat analogous.

    I’m inclined to think referenda like Brexit or the recent Scottish vote on leaving the U.K., with such major and permanent changes riding on them, should in fairness require something like a 2/3 supermajority to pass.

    Did they require a 2/3 to enter such an agreement?

    No, but I believe that they did hit that threshold, or close to it.

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  18. Joseph Stanko Coolidge
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    Mister D: I don’t anticipate this being a long term problem.

    Define “long term.”  How quickly will the markets recover from this, are we talking weeks, months, or years?

    Couldn’t this spark another global financial crisis?  Lots of Wall Street and London types were certain Remain would win, and bet big accordingly, and are now panicking.  Might a sudden market or currency crash, even if only temporary, cause some “too big to fail” banks to start clamoring for bailouts all over again?

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  19. tigerlily Member
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    Joseph Stanko:

    Mister D: I am a little uncomfortable with such a big issue being decided by such a narrow margin.

    That’s a great point. There’s a very high bar to amend the U.S. Constitution, and rightly so. This seems somewhat analogous.

    I’m inclined to think referenda like Brexit or the recent Scottish vote on leaving the U.K., with such major and permanent changes riding on them, should in fairness require something like a 2/3 supermajority to pass.

    But, how’d they get in the EU? I don’t think there was any super-majority for that.

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  20. MerryKate Inactive
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    Strikes me as a good time to buy stocks and currency futures in the British pound.  The market will rebound in time.

    I’m so very pleased for the brits tonight…glad to know there are that many people left in the country with some common sense.

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  21. Zafar Member
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    “Scotland and Northern Ireland were the strongest regions for remaining in the European Union”

    Along with London.

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  22. goldwaterwoman Thatcher
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    Aelreth:

    Joseph Stanko:

    Mister D: I am a little uncomfortable with such a big issue being decided by such a narrow margin.

    That’s a great point. There’s a very high bar to amend the U.S. Constitution, and rightly so. This seems somewhat analogous.

    I’m inclined to think referenda like Brexit or the recent Scottish vote on leaving the U.K., with such major and permanent changes riding on them, should in fairness require something like a 2/3 supermajority to pass.

    Did they require a 2/3 to enter such an agreement?

    Actually , the Brits only voted to join the Common Market(European Economic Community) in 1975, which morphed into the EU through various treaties over the years. It was originally meant to be a free trade union, not a political state.  The 1991 Maastrict Treaty created the foundation for the EU and the Euro as a single currency. John Major negotiated an opt out for Britain and insisted on keeping the pound. I was in England at that time , and it was very controversial as the British public wasn’t given a vote. Many a disgruntled Brit argued that it would lead to the power hungry bureaucracy it has become.

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  23. Robert McReynolds Member
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    James Gawron:

    You posted from my favorite Shakespeare play. I awoke and when I saw the news I burst with pride for my English kin. When I saw your post, I had to share this one:

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  24. Adriana Harris Inactive
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    I don’t know why I’m so happy about this, but I am. Good for the U.K. Maybe they can start moving towards the light of a freer more independent society now. Good luck!

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  25. No Caesar Thatcher
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    I am very happy about the outcome with Brexit.  Back in 1992, when it looked like the EU would expand free-markets and free-capital amongst the nation states of Europe I was in favor of it.  With the decisive failure of Socialism by the USSR, I thought the lesson learned.  Boy was I wrong.  As the EU turned 180 degrees into an increasingly socialist, nanny-nightmare-with-the-steel-ruler I have turned against it, decisively.

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  26. The Reticulator Member
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    Mister D:

    Joseph Stanko:

    Mister D: As an American my investment in this is mostly theoretical.

    Unless you own stock, then your investment might be more literal than you realize:

    World financial markets plunged as complete results showed a near 52-48 percent split for leaving. The vote created the biggest global financial shock since the 2008 economic crisis, this time with interest rates around the world already at or near zero, stripping policymakers of the means to fight it.

    The pound suffered its biggest one-day fall in history, plunging more than 10 percent against the dollar to hit levels last seen in 1985. The chief ratings officer for Standard & Poor’s told the Financial Times Britain’s AAA credit rating was no longer tenable.

    Futures trading predicted massive opening losses on share markets across Europe. Britain’s FTSE futures and Germany’s Dax futures fell about 9 percent. The euro zone’s Euro Stoxx 50 futures sank more than 11 percent.

    I don’t anticipate this being a long term problem.

    I expect my retirement funds to take a short-term hit.  They might recover long-term, maybe even do better.  But whether or not, long live Brexit!

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  27. Doctor Robert Member
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    Douglas: At this rate, England might vote Scotland out before they could even secede. I get the sense that many in England are getting a wee bit tired of Scottish antics.

    What we call a win-win situation.  Upon whom would the Scots welsh?

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  28. Chuck Enfield Inactive
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    Adriana Harris:I don’t know why I’m so happy about this, but I am. Good for the U.K. Maybe they can start moving towards the light of a freer more independent society now. Good luck!

    My reason is two-fold.  Primarily, I think proud, strong and free nations are good for the entire world. But I’m also glad to see strong public opinion in favor of reversing a major, counter-productive trend.  If they can do it maybe we can too.

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  29. RabbitHoleRedux Inactive
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    A-Squared: I’m pretty excited.

    Me, too. It’s been a long while since I’ve been both surprised and encouraged by a political outcome. What a wonderful moment for Britain, and for those of us who cheer them.

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  30. BR Member
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    Dustoff:Sweeter still, on our side of the pond, we can thank the most magnificent B. Obama for his winsome contribution by threatening our British friends.

    Nice work Barry.

    Well put! From Newmax 6/24:

    A Daily Mail editorial was equally brutal of Obama’s anti-Brexit interference, saying Obama had shown “contempt for voters.”

    “The tone was patronizing, the language menacing – and the message not only hypocritical but, frankly, insulting,” it added. “… He has no business to come here and preach that submission to Brussels is good for the people of the U.K.”

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