Flyover 56 – Conservangelism and Kate Braestrup

 

This week we are joined by Kate Braestrup, converted conservative, well-loved Ricochet member, author, mother, chaplain… the list goes on and on!  We talk about conservative evangelism, echo chambers, and a little bit about Kate’s most recent book. Enjoy!

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Kate’s other books can be found all over the place, but start here!

While you’re at it, check out Zach’s book!

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Opening includes music from Ronald Jenkees; Closing music was Daft Punk.

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  1. Max Ledoux Admin
    Max Ledoux
    @Max

    Economics in One Lesson is a great book. I loved it.

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  2. Julie Snapp Coolidge
    Julie Snapp
    @JulieSnapp

    Kate, I just wanted to say that your “conversion” experience really struck a chord with me.

    When I first joined Ricochet, I was nearing the end of my own liberal-mindedness and I believe Ricochet (plus arguments with Ryan over chat) had the same effect on me: the realization that people actually had well-thought-out ideas and arguments on the right. I spent years on forums where people on the right were less educated, clumsily parroting their talking points without any facts/statistics/etc. I, too, had surrounded myself with an entirely leftist echo chamber and judged people as lesser for disagreeing with me. After all: I had a computer science degree and the “right” viewpoints and I could never ever ever be wrong, right?

    I realized just how far I’d gone after I got into an argument with Terry about evolution where I implied he was an idiot for not agreeing with me and he got offended.

    I try to be careful now about not letting the pendulum swing too far in the other direction and creating a conservative echo chamber for myself.

    Anyways, just wanted to emerge from my lurking to say that I’m a fan and I plan on reading your book!

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  3. Kate Braestrup Member
    Kate Braestrup
    @GrannyDude

    Julie Snapp:Kate, I just wanted to say that your “conversion” experience really struck a chord with me.

    When I first joined Ricochet, I was nearing the end of my own liberal-mindedness and I believe Ricochet (plus arguments with Ryan over chat) had the same effect on me: the realization that people actually had well-thought-out ideas and arguments on the right. I spent years on forums where people on the right were less educated, clumsily parroting their talking points without any facts/statistics/etc. I, too, had surrounded myself with an entirely leftist echo chamber and judged people as lesser for disagreeing with me. After all: I had a computer science degree and the “right” viewpoints and I could never ever ever be wrong, right?

    I realized just how far I’d gone after I got into an argument with Terry about evolution where I implied he was an idiot for not agreeing with me and he got offended.

    I try to be careful now about not letting the pendulum swing too far in the other direction and creating a conservative echo chamber for myself.

    Anyways, just wanted to emerge from my lurking to say that I’m a fan and I plan on reading your book!

    Thank you, Julie!

    See, guys? There’s hope…

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  4. La Tapada Member
    La Tapada
    @LaTapada

    I’m always happy when I see there’s a new Flyover podcast.

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  5. RyanM Member
    RyanM
    @RyanM

    La Tapada:I’m always happy when I see there’s a new Flyover podcast.

    and that makes us happy!  :)

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  6. TG Thatcher
    TG
    @TG

    Thanks for this, very interesting conversation.  I listened all the way through.  Grin.

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  7. The King Prawn Inactive
    The King Prawn
    @TheKingPrawn

    TG:Thanks for this, very interesting conversation. I listened all the way through. Grin.

    Even when Ryan was talking?

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  8. RyanM Member
    RyanM
    @RyanM

    The King Prawn:

    TG:Thanks for this, very interesting conversation. I listened all the way through. Grin.

    Even when Ryan was talking?

    we call that “bathroom break” time.

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  9. RyanM Member
    RyanM
    @RyanM

    Max Ledoux:Economics in One Lesson is a great book. I loved it.

    Maybe we’ll have you on the podcast to talk about it?

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  10. Max Ledoux Admin
    Max Ledoux
    @Max

    RyanM:

    Max Ledoux:Economics in One Lesson is a great book. I loved it.

    Maybe we’ll have you on the podcast to talk about it?

    Sure! Any time!

    …wait.

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  11. Julie Snapp Coolidge
    Julie Snapp
    @JulieSnapp

    The Max segments always make me laugh! But for real, you should have him on as a guest again, Ryan!

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  12. The King Prawn Inactive
    The King Prawn
    @TheKingPrawn

    This really was good stuff.

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  13. Salvatore Padula Inactive
    Salvatore Padula
    @SalvatorePadula

    I definitely agree that telling people hard truths is a hard way to persuade them and I agree that Trump’s appeal is based in large part on the perception that he tells it like it is, but that perception is only superficially accurate. Trump tells hard truths about the people he isn’t trying to win over. Anchor babies being a prime example. He doesn’t tell hard truths to his supporters. He sells easy answers. Dim prospects for unskilled workers? It’s not due to technological advancement and structural changes in the economy. It’s because China is cheating and our leaders are stupid! Government spending is unsustainable? We don’t need to reform middle class entitlements. We can just get rid of waste, fraud and abuse.

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  14. RyanM Member
    RyanM
    @RyanM

    Salvatore Padula:I definitely agree that telling people hard truths is a hard way to persuade them and I agree that Trump’s appeal is based in large part on the perception that he tells it like it is, but that perception is only superficially accurate. Trump tells hard truths about the people he isn’t trying to win over. Anchor babies being a prime example. He doesn’t tell hard truths to his supporters. He sells easy answers. Dim prospects for unskilled workers? It’s not due to technological advancement and structural changes in the economy. It’s because China is cheating and our leaders are stupid! Government spending is unsustainable? We don’t need to reform middle class entitlements. We can just get rid of waste, fraud and abuse.

    Agreed. Trump is a manipulator, and while “telling people what they want to hear” does sometimes include the truth, that is not the ultimate goal.

    His main appeal is calling the media liars, which conservatives know to be true.

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  15. Kate Braestrup Member
    Kate Braestrup
    @GrannyDude

    Ryan, can you fix the spelling of my name in the title? Love,

    Bra-strap

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  16. RyanM Member
    RyanM
    @RyanM

    Kate Braestrup:Ryan, can you fix the spelling of my name in the title? Love,

    Bra-strap

    I could swear I heard you say to someone that it’s actually pronounced that way! :)

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  17. Michael Collins Member
    Michael Collins
    @MichaelCollins

    Your podcast went on too long, and ended too soon.  I don’t know how you did that, but I wanted to hear more of it.   You guys need to talk a lot faster!

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  18. Michael Collins Member
    Michael Collins
    @MichaelCollins

    Removed by poster as pointless.

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  19. RyanM Member
    RyanM
    @RyanM

    Michael Collins:Your podcast went on too long, and ended too soon. I don’t know how you did that, but I wanted to hear more of it. You guys need to talk a lot faster!

    Hahaha, that’s exactly what my wife says. The pace is soooooooo slow! Well, we’re a couple of Montanans. :)

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  20. Penfold Member
    Penfold
    @Penfold

    I really love listening to your podcasts guys.  “No. 1 podcast on Ricochet” is no random boast.  But …. there’s always a “but”…. Could you maybe be more attentive to your guest when they’re trying to get their comments into the conversation?

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  21. RyanM Member
    RyanM
    @RyanM

    Penfold:I really love listening to your podcasts guys. “No. 1 podcast on Ricochet” is no random boast. But …. there’s always a “but”…. Could you maybe be more attentive to your guest when they’re trying to get their comments into the conversation?

    Yielding is a work in progress… :)

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  22. kylez Member
    kylez
    @kylez

    Wasn’t Vicryl on here before, or was that something else?

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  23. Tom Meyer, Ed. Contributor
    Tom Meyer, Ed.
    @tommeyer

    Great episode.

    • #23
  24. Max Ledoux Admin
    Max Ledoux
    @Max

    kylez:Wasn’t Vicryl on here before, or was that something else?

    Let’s Talk with Vicryl Contessa

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  25. kylez Member
    kylez
    @kylez

    Max Ledoux:

    kylez:Wasn’t Vicryl on here before, or was that something else?

    Let’s Talk with Vicryl Contessa

    Thanks.

    Is that thing with you at the beginning of this show a gag?

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  26. RyanM Member
    RyanM
    @RyanM

    kylez:

    Max Ledoux:

    kylez:Wasn’t Vicryl on here before, or was that something else?

    Let’s Talk with Vicryl Contessa

    Thanks.

    Is that thing with you at the beginning of this show a gag?

    (max also provides the bonus clip after the closing song)

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  27. Kate Braestrup Member
    Kate Braestrup
    @GrannyDude

    Ryan—my name?

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  28. Max Ledoux Admin
    Max Ledoux
    @Max

    Kate Braestrup:Ryan—my name?

    I fixed it.

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  29. RyanM Member
    RyanM
    @RyanM

    Kate Braestrup:Ryan—my name?

    Wait, what?  Was there a typo?

    I am dumb as a rock, sometimes!

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  30. Max Ledoux Admin
    Max Ledoux
    @Max

    RyanM:

    Kate Braestrup:Ryan—my name?

    Wait, what? Was there a typo?

    I am dumb as a rock, sometimes!

    Yeah, you spelled it baestrup, ya big dummy. <marklevin>That’s right; I said it!</marklevin>

    I guess you want Kate to be your bae. ;-)

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