Saving the Republic from the Heckler’s Veto: The Moral Imperative to Elect Trump

 
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We know that freedom of speech is under attack in America. Whole areas of discourse are off limits in the public square; wrongthink is punished by federal or state investigation; and any attempt to puncture the illusions of the unhinged Far-Left is increasingly met by violence which — in the classical statist two-step — leads to official censorship on the grounds of public safety.

It’s disgraceful when it happens on a college campus. It is another — one might almost call it an extinction-level event — when it occurs during a presidential election campaign. What happened at the Trump event in Albuquerque is just the first taste of what promises to be a long summer of hate directed at the heart of the Republic: freedom of speech, freedom of association, freedom tout court.

Do not be misled by the protesters attacking the police and shouting down the Man; the Man has their back. At their direction, the circle of acceptable thought will be shrunk. The definition of racism will be expanded. “Authoritarian” and similar terms will be defined down and used as an excuse to suppress any speech, any behavior — indeed, any thought — that does not lead to the expansion and glorification of the state.

And America will die. Maybe with a bang. Perhaps with a whimper. But all that makes America positively different will be gone. You may hate what Donald Trump has to say, but your moral duty is to vote for him for saying it.

Hyperbole? Ask the #NeverTrumps.

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  1. BrentB67 Inactive
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    I think this merits consideration for the Main Feed.

    Good points G.

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  2. Franco Member
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    My take is: They are desperate for a Hitler. They tried with Bush.

    They are drunk on narcissistic self-righteousness. All morality, such as it is, is taking place in the public sphere, while immorality runs rampant in private. None of these people as individuals have any extra piety than ordinary people and many have significantly less. All they have is some belief system that has determined that other people are wrong and that some group must be repressed or eliminated. Then all their private excesses and feelings of guilt are transferred onto their righteous indignation about some public policy or public figure.

    The assumptions of left-wing thought have trickled down into our culture most prevalent in younger people who want their justice and they want it now! 

    If things keep going in this same direction unabated, it will be white men who are sent to concentration camps for thoughtcrimes priveldge-subtraction and maybe worse.

    It is like a Greek Tragedy of the masses. The quality they run away from so desperately becomes the very quality they unconsciously embrace and embody.

    These are the the new brownshirts.

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  3. TG Thatcher
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    “Not really serious,” yes.  But those protests are disgraceful.

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  4. Franco Member
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    genferei: one might almost call it an extinction-level event

    Good one!

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  5. Scott Wilmot Member
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    genferei: The circle of acceptable thought will be shrunk.

    Lest we forget, Mrs. Clinton publicly endorsed anti-democratic values when she declared last year that opponents’ “deep-seated cultural codes, religious beliefs, and structural biases have to be changed.”

    There is evil afoot in the progressive movement.

    By a quirk of fate, we may have in Trump the medicine to finally rid us of the penicillin-resistant syphillis of American politics Clintons.

    Hunter S. Thompson: “When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro”.

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  6. genferei Member
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    From Politico: Will Trump’s convention be safe?

    Republican National Convention officials and the Secret Service have long insisted they’re prepared for the convention, which has been designated a National Special Security Event [NSSE], a label that triggers a slew of homeland security preparations – including setting restrictions on the manner and location of protests. “When people break those restrictions, they’ll be dealt with appropriately,” said Nicole Mainor a Secret Service spokeswoman, in a recent interview.

    (All conventions, Dem and GOP, have been NSSE’s since such a designation was created in 1998. Do you feel safer with the Secret Service and the FBI in charge? What could go wrong…)

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  7. Robert Lux Inactive
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    Scott Wilmot:

    genferei: The circle of acceptable thought will be shrunk.

    Lest we forget, Mrs. Clinton publicly endorsed anti-democratic values when she declared last year that opponents’ “deep-seated cultural codes, religious beliefs, and structural biases have to be changed.”

    This goes along with Hillary’s spearheading of UN Resolution 16/18 — in cahoots with some of the most oppressive Islamist regimes — to criminalize criticism of Islam. https://counterjihadreport.com/tag/resolution-1618/

    The woman is pure evil.  And these “never Trump” Gutmenschen think it fatuous to consider Trump the lesser of two evils?  (Par for the course, I have lost all respect for Claire Berlinski).

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  8. Pseudodionysius Inactive
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    The best part of electing Killary is you get The First Rapist loose in the White House with a new batch of fresh, young interns.

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  9. Pseudodionysius Inactive
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    And bonus round – a Presidential Pardon for Jeffrey Epstein.

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  10. Kozak Member
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    These are the kind of ad’s Trump should run…

    TRUMP

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  11. Scott Wilmot Member
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    Robert Lux: This goes along with Hillary’s spearheading of UN Resolution 16/18 — in cahoots with some of the most oppressive Islamist regimes — to criminalize criticism of Islam

    What is the connection between the progressives and Islam – is it as simple as both of them hating the West?

    From the article:

    At the dinner, Attorney General Lynch stated that she is concerned about an

    “incredibly disturbing rise of anti-Muslim rhetoric… The fear that you have just mentioned is in fact my greatest fear as a prosecutor, as someone who is sworn to the protection of all of the American people, which is that the rhetoric will be accompanied by acts of violence. Now obviously, this is a country that is based on free speech, but when it edges towards violence, when we see the potential for someone lifting that mantle of anti-Muslim rhetoric — or, as we saw after 9/11, violence directed at individuals who may not even be Muslims but perceived to be Muslims, and they will suffer just as much — when we see that we will take action.”

    Whenever a progressive is “concerned” that is a dog-whistle to tell us we are about to lose our freedom. “They will take action”.

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  12. Pseudodionysius Inactive
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    genferei:From Politico: Will Trump’s convention be safe?

    Republican National Convention officials and the Secret Service have long insisted they’re prepared for the convention, which has been designated a National Special Security Event [NSSE], a label that triggers a slew of homeland security preparations – including setting restrictions on the manner and location of protests. “When people break those restrictions, they’ll be dealt with appropriately,” said Nicole Mainor a Secret Service spokeswoman, in a recent interview.

    (All conventions, Dem and GOP, have been NSSE’s since such a designation was created in 1998. Do you feel safer with the Secret Service and the FBI in charge? What could go wrong…)

    Oh come off it! Next you’ll be telling me they can’t prevent a Presidential assassination attempt in a motorcade.

    Worry, worry, worry.

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  13. ctlaw Coolidge
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    Pseudodionysius:And bonus round – a Presidential Pardon for Jeffrey Epstein.

    Back when we had a Constitution, the president could not pardon for state crimes.

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  14. Pseudodionysius Inactive
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    ctlaw:

    Pseudodionysius:And bonus round – a Presidential Pardon for Jeffrey Epstein.

    Back when we had a Constitution, the president could not pardon for state crimes.

    I smell an Executive Odor cooking in the back room.

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  15. The King Prawn Inactive
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    Isn’t Trump the one advocating for expansion of libel laws so he can sue his detractors into silence?

    Right goal, wrong path to achieving it.

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  16. Robert Lux Inactive
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    Scott Wilmot:

    What is the connection between the progressives and Islam – is it as simple as both of them hating the West?

    The Left excuses the rampant misogyny and the ethnic/religious chauvinism endemic to Islam — anything remotely similar emanating from Christians or white-male heterosexual conservatives which the Left excoriates — because the Left is pumped full of History. In other words, the Left is patronizing.

    Patronizing because the Left intelligentsia, at whatever level, sees that History has culminated essentially in John Rawls/Hillary Clinton.

    In other words, Muslim chauvinists and/or terrorists simply haven’t evolved yet to the level whereby one sees that nothing is truly worth fighting and dying over.

    War and work — the two elements driving History (as Hegel laid out) — are irrational:

    How charming, how exciting, how meaningful then is the Third World, where at least the [Nietzschean] Last Man still may appear as an ideal and, therefore, where man still appears to have some purpose beyond entertainment and/or comfortable self-preservation.”

    ———-

    Edit:  “War and work — the two elements driving History (as Hegel laid out) — are now seen, from our left-liberal vantage point, as irrational:

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  17. Tom Meyer, Ed. Member
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    [self-redacted]

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  18. BrentB67 Inactive
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    Tom Meyer, Ed.:

    BrentB67:I think this merits consideration for the Main Feed and have little hope it will find its way there.

    I think it looks bad when the first comment on a Main Feed-worthy post bashes the site.

    I think it looks bad when the top of the Main Feed is another Zubrin screed.

    I will happily delete my comment if you wish to promote this post.

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  19. Tom Meyer, Ed. Member
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    BrentB67:

    I will happily delete my comment if you wish to promote this post.

    A self-redaction of the relevant section would be appreciated.

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  20. BrentB67 Inactive
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    Tom Meyer, Ed.:

    BrentB67:

    I will happily delete my comment if you wish to promote this post.

    A self-redaction of the relevant section would be appreciated.

    Done. A clean up of what passes for Main Feed contributor would similarly be appreciated.

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  21. Merina Smith Inactive
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    My goodness, this is a pretty kettle of fish. The left attacks Trump rallies with violent riots, Trump attacks pretty much everybody and throws in the concept of free speech to boot, and his supporters blame the perfectly peaceful citizens whose crime is withholding their vote from Trump.

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  22. Cantankerous Homebody Inactive
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    I think the most infuriating thing about these protest movements is that if the man/whitey was just merely half as evil as they claimed, all of these disruptive events would be crushed with a mailed fist.  Moreover, none of these protesters would have the courage or temerity to protest if the enemy were truly oppressing them. That they’re out there on the street at all belies their own claims of victimization.

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  23. Jamie Lockett Member
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    BrentB67:

    Tom Meyer, Ed.:

    BrentB67:I think this merits consideration for the Main Feed and have little hope it will find its way there.

    I think it looks bad when the first comment on a Main Feed-worthy post bashes the site.

    I think it looks bad when the top of the Main Feed is another Zubrin screed.

    I will happily delete my comment if you wish to promote this post.

    How does Zubrins latest constitute a screed? Is any argument against Trump now a screed?

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  24. Jamie Lockett Member
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    So what exactly do the actions of left wing nut cases have to do with #NeverTrump?

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  25. Jamie Lockett Member
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    Merina Smith:My goodness, this is a pretty kettle of fish. The left attacks Trump rallies with violent riots, Trump attacks pretty much everybody and throws in the concept of free speech to boot, and his supporters blame the perfectly peaceful citizens whose crime is withholding their vote from Trump.

    Dear god, if you have Merina and I in 100% agreement you must be doing something wrong.

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  26. BThompson Inactive
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    Note:

    Vulgarity.

    Stop promoting these [redacted] posts telling me I’m a bad person or that I’m voting for Hillary if I don’t vote for Trump. This conversation has been done to death on this site and there is no reason to continue having it. It’s time to start talking about other things because no one is budging anyone off of their position.

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  27. Franco Member
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    The King Prawn:Isn’t Trump the one advocating for expansion of libel laws so he can sue his detractors into silence?

    Right goal, wrong path to achieving it.

    An offhand remark that will never happen, as opposed to systematic encroachment of free speech on all sides advanced by the left. No equivalance here whatsoever.

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  28. genferei Member
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    BThompson:Stop promoting these … posts telling me I’m a bad person … . This conversation has been done to death on this site and there is no reason to continue having it. It’s time to start talking about other things because no one is budging anyone off of their position.

    This is basically the point of the post. This may have been more obvious in its original incarnation.

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  29. Franco Member
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    Jamie Lockett:So what exactly do the actions of left wing nut cases have to do with #NeverTrump?

    Well a line many nevertrumpers would pursue, aren’t they a a sign of the movement? I don’t think Bill Kristol has denounced them or distanced himself from these folks. Ominous…

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  30. BrentB67 Inactive
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    Jamie Lockett:

    BrentB67:

    Tom Meyer, Ed.:

    BrentB67:I think this merits consideration for the Main Feed and have little hope it will find its way there.

    I think it looks bad when the first comment on a Main Feed-worthy post bashes the site.

    I think it looks bad when the top of the Main Feed is another Zubrin screed.

    I will happily delete my comment if you wish to promote this post.

    How does Zubrins latest constitute a screed? Is any argument against Trump now a screed?

    Citing an interview of a fiction writer advocating for Trump’s assassination is now legitimate Main Feed authorship and not a screed?

    I am all for criticizing the legion of Trump’s shortcomings, but Zubrin doesn’t elect to go there.

    We shut down Stad for asking a legitimate question about the end of Obama’s admin and make Zubrin a contributor?

    You and I don’t always agree, but you are 10 times the author and analytic thinker Zubrin is and yet he is a contributor and you are stuck at the table where they stuff guys like me.

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