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Brad Thor: Trump is an Extinction Level Threat to American Democracy
Best-selling spy novel author Brad Thor just gave a remarkable interview on the Glenn Beck show in which he passionately explained why Donald Trump represents “an extinction level” threat to American democracy. I’m in full agreement. Here are Thor’s remarks, as reported by Lori, a journalist employed by the Beck organization. Everyone should read this.
“I think Trump is an extinction-level event potentially for our republic, for democracy. This is one of the greatest crises our nation has seen since the Great Depression, since World War II — is a potential Donald Trump presidency. It is a disaster for liberty,” Thor said. Glenn doesn’t often struggle to have his voice heard, but Thor’s passion overwhelmed the conversation.
“Listen, Andrew Sullivan, who I’m not a big fan…I don’t agree with a lot of stuff Andrew Sullivan writes…he wrote a brilliant piece recently in New York Magazine, and he said, “Democracies end when they are too democratic.” And he looked at Plato’s republic and some of the thoughts Plato had on democracy, and how, when there are no values, when anything is possible, when everything goes, that’s when a tyrant steps in and takes control of what Plato calls an “obedient mob.” It’s exactly what Trump has done. It is a brilliant, brilliant piece of writing. And I encourage everybody to read it,” Thor said.
Thor’s intensity surprised Glenn. “I’ve never heard you like this, Brad,” Glenn said.
“I’m terrified,” Thor answered.
Glenn reminded Thor of when he rang the bell about Barack Obama, but never said anything like an “extinction-level event.”
“Listen, I believe it was somebody at National Review that used that exact term, and it resonated with me…”
You can read the entire exchange, or listen to the audio, at Beck’s website.
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Don’t say that around here. To read a lot of what goes up here you would think everything is just swimming along since 2000 and then this Trump ruffian showed up and spoiled the cocktail party at Bushwood.
Mischaracterize it how you wish, but it was clear that a GOP that continued running namby-pamby fools like Jeb! had already gone over to the other side.
It’s funny how the more articles like this I read the more inclined I am to vote for Trump. Hyperbole and whining has never worked on me.
I admit it motivates my considering doing similarly.
To me it points to lack of political understanding and awareness. Most of the people who are nevertrumpers were those who never saw the split coming.
No doubt Trump is difficult to pin down politically, but their conclusions simply don’t make any sense. Much of what they criticize Trump for applies to other former Republican Presidential candidates and to members of Congress. Some believe(d) he was a pawn of the Clintons. Others claim he a Democrat merely for doing what every businessman on his level is forced to do – pay off politicians. Then they claim he’s a crony capitalist. That’s like saying I’m immoral for giving a cop who is known to take bribes $20 to get out of a phony ticket. Proving they don’t understand the problem.
They think he’s thin-skinned for fighting back twice as hard. Would that Bush the W had some of those qualities and we wouldn’t have had 8 years of Obama.
Others claim he’s secretly against the Second Amendment. And more.
It gets into the realm of conspiracy theories.
Brad Thor and Glenn Beck [and zoobrin] Advocate Assassination of Trump
Good thing there isn’t conspiracy theory here, right.
Zubrin did not cite that part of the interview.
He presented it in the comments. If there’s even more than what appeared in Zubrin’s comment, so much the worse. Not like I’m going over to Beck’s kook farm to find out.
Side note: the “journalist” employed by Beck to preserve his utterances should drop the thriller-style narration.
Conceded. Posted with a grin on my face and my tongue firmly planted in my cheek. It contains every bit of saneness as the OP.
I am right there with you. Trump leading to the end of conservatism, democracy, the country and the world (through nuclear war) are all the things that end up main feed.
Can’t it just be that Trump would be a bad President without being the end of everything? If your best most rational argument is Armageddon you need a better argument.
Just another worthless post from Zubrin. Looky here, he found another nut, appearing with Glenn Beck, the man who knows all, and we should care…why?
Except that despite the exaggerations (his own and his detractors’), Trump does offer conservative positions. Not good enough? I understand. Neither was Romneycare Romney, McCain-Feingold McCain, Compassionate Conservatism Bush, Where’s the Outrage Dole, Read My Lips Bush.
I read the full article, I guess I still did not get it. There was not a “passionate explanation” there was a passionate declarative statement. Trump will be a Tyrant.
Ok, how does this happen (I am gonna need some specifics here)? If elected it would be by narrow margins in the electoral collage and if recent history repeats an actual loss in the popular vote. With hostile Democrats, and a number of hostile Republicans, and a hostile bureaucracy, what exact steps will allow Trump to become dictator?
How is it that Trump takes control and gets his “tyrannical” policies actually enacted?
Exaggeration isn’t just an NT problem. Whenever I read about the end of civilization or even the end of our constitutional order I have a hard time deciding whether to cringe or roll my eyes because I’m not coordinated enough to do both simultaneously.
Even after two terms of president Obama our constitution is still operative. Despite executive orders and terrible decisions with lasting consequences for our nation in various ways, we’re still governed by the constitution of the people, for the people, and by the people. We still hold the levers – the Trump phenomenon is actually evidence of that.
Does anyone actually think that 8 years of Pres. Bush remade to party in his image? Doesn’t that kind of ignore the Tea Party push back on spending, a growing distrust of nation building, and the failure of Jeb to get voters (not donors) to support him?
I think Bush remade the party.
The Tea Parties were late in his admin. Had he not ensconced big government in the party maybe they don’t exist.
I’m fascinated how Trump critics manage to help Trump. If Zubrin, Charen, the MSM, et al. keep this up, Trump might actually win the election.
I miss having Mollie around here. Despite the whole Cardinals thing.
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Bush was the nail in the coffin but the coffin was built by a long legacy of others.
Her departure was a catastrophic loss.
Go Redbirds!
OK so much for civil discussion.
Quite right. Like Caddyshack or Animal House – there are few likable characters and no heroes. That’s what happens when the only tradition available is corrupt and unappealing.
Wait, you’re saying Bluto is not a hero? And Carl the groundskeeper?
You didn’t. I never thought anything about you at all.
Why so hurtful Brent? Don’t worry, the Cubs domination of the Cards won’t last more than two or three seasons before we reach parity again.
What I’d like to know is why when people with certain gifts make enough dough, their brains leak out and outlandish pronouncements follow, with the literati receiving them with bated breath. Beck, Thor, Zuckerberg, and many others are in this category.
If you think this is the first time Beck or Thor has engaged in hyperbole then you haven’t been paying attention. Perhaps you liked the hyperbolic things they said before?
Not familiar with Thor, but I’ve had to tune Beck out for years now. I swear he’s been in full on “The Apocalypse is coming!” mode since 2008. What with the crying jags and everything else, I just can’t take him seriously. And you know it’s bad when Alex Jones is saying you’ve lost your mind.