Here You Go Donald, Your New Delegate Count

 

One way to deal with gadflies, rogues and bullies is to give them exactly what they want on the theory that they will eventually do themselves in. Since his Colorado debacle, Donald Trump has been arguing that the delegate attribution should reflect the percentage earned by each candidate in each primary/caucus.

But under these new “Trump rules,” his total delegate count today would be 564 (table below), well below his official current total of 755. Cruz would suffer a smaller downward adjustment, ending up with 495 delegates to date instead of his current 545. The gap between the two would fall from 210 to 69, less than 3 percent of the total delegates.

Further, in order to get the 1,237 needed for nomination, Trump would need an additional 673 delegates. This means that he would need to win 87.5 percent of the remaining delegates. Under the new rules he advocates, the chances of this happening are, well … zero.

Can’t wait to see how this vaunted “art of the deal” is going to work at the convention after pretty much everyone on the other side has been insulted over and over.

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There are 22 comments.

  1. Member

    Send this to Drudge, Breitbart, Coulter and Laura Ingram. And the whining Comb over himself.

    Nice work.

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    • April 14, 2016, at 8:19 AM PDT
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  2. Member

    I see the percentages don’t add up to 100%. Under revised “Trump rules” where each candidate gets delegates proportionate to the vote in that state, how many of the other folk wouldn’t have dropped out cuz they woulda had more delegates?

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    • April 14, 2016, at 8:24 AM PDT
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    Marion Evans Post author

    Misthiocracy:I see the percentages don’t add up to 100%. Under revised “Trump rules” where each candidate gets delegates proportionate to the vote in that state, how many of the other folk wouldn’t have dropped out cuz they woulda had more delegates?

    Who knows? But Kasich (probably) and Rubio (surely) would have had more delegates. Even if they would have dropped out anyway, they would have a bunch of delegates to negotiate with at the convention.

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    • April 14, 2016, at 8:30 AM PDT
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  4. Member

    The funny part about Trump is that I am starting to become numbed from the constant lies, outrageous statements and inane liberal policy “ideas.” But the incessant whining is really getting old. He seems completely oblivious to the fact that he needs to convince more than the Hale Bopp crowd. He’s turning from “tough Guy” into this guy…

    geuu_01_img0206

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    • April 14, 2016, at 8:46 AM PDT
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  5. Member

    I reject your “Establishment math” which is based on logic and reason and embrace a more holistic “anti-Establishment math” which is based on feelings, mostly anger. According to my “anti-Establishment math,” Trump has 7,412.2 delegates and can be expected to win 693 votes in the electoral college.

    That 0.2 is an arm and part of a torso, but his dying wish was to vote for Trump and we can’t disenfranchise what’s left of him.

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    • April 14, 2016, at 9:06 AM PDT
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  6. Member

    J. Martin Rogers:The funny part about Trump is that I am starting to become numbed from the constant lies, outrageous statements and inane liberal policy “ideas.” But the incessant whining is really getting old. He seems completely oblivious to the fact that he needs to convince more than the Hale Bopp crowd. He’s turning from “tough Guy” into this guy…

    I liked the Federalist article that compared him to the villains from The Fountainhead.

    Trump is a guy who says he doesn’t care what other people think, then goes on to obsess endlessly about what other people think. He’s exactly the sort of person who would want you to think he’s an Ayn Rand fan, while he really acts like one of her villains.

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    • April 14, 2016, at 9:08 AM PDT
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    Marion Evans Post author

    Quinn the Eskimo:I reject your “Establishment math” which is based on logic and reason and embrace a more holistic “anti-Establishment math” which is based on feelings, mostly anger. According to my “anti-Establishment math,” Trump has 7,412.2 delegates and can be expected to win 693 votes in the electoral college.

    That 0.2 is an arm and part of a torso, but his dying wish was to vote for Trump and we can’t disenfranchise what’s left of him.

    I guess he flunked “Establishment math” at Wharton. That’s the same math he would have needed to keep his companies out of bankruptcy.

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    • April 14, 2016, at 9:41 AM PDT
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  8. Member

    It looks like the unbound Rubio delegates will give another 100+ delegates to Cruz in the 1st ballot. That closes the gap even further as I doubt Kasich’s will go 100% behind Trump. California could be very interesting.

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    • April 14, 2016, at 10:12 AM PDT
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  9. Member

    Marion Evans: I guess he flunked “Establishment math” at Wharton. That’s the same math he would have needed to keep his companies out of bankruptcy.

    That’s why he has bankruptcy lawyers. Someone needs to get the businesses out of the ditch he drove them into.

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    • April 14, 2016, at 10:22 AM PDT
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  10. Member

    The OP is exactly on point. This latest Trump effusion has really torn it for me. My primary concern about Trump initially was the unpredictability of what he would do as President. I pretty much ignored the personality stuff. But this latest whine along with the conduct of his surrogates — Roger Stone and Paul Manafort among others — demonstrates Donald is a total @$$hat. I might support a Constitution loving, limited government @$$hat, but I’ll be damned if I will ever vote for a bullying and whining @$$hat.

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    • April 14, 2016, at 10:52 AM PDT
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  11. Member

    Rodin: I’ll be damned if I will ever vote for a bullying and whining @$$hat.

    Welcome to the team.

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    • April 14, 2016, at 11:04 AM PDT
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  12. Coolidge

    This should be promoted over to the Main Feed IMHO.

    • #12
    • April 14, 2016, at 12:51 PM PDT
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  13. Inactive

    The rules should be changed only where it would benefit Trump, of course.

    • #13
    • April 14, 2016, at 5:06 PM PDT
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    Quinn the Eskimo:I reject your “Establishment math” which is based on logic and reason and embrace a more holistic “anti-Establishment math” which is based on feelings, mostly anger. According to my “anti-Establishment math,” Trump has 7,412.2 delegates and can be expected to win 693 votes in the electoral college.

    This is comment of the month.

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    • April 15, 2016, at 7:57 AM PDT
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  15. Member

    Trump whines about the game being rigged. The funny thing is that the game is rigged. It’s rigged in favor of the front-runner, which is to say that it’s rigged in favor of Trump.

    The nominating process is, by design, intended to solidify the position of the front-runner and unify the Party behind that front-runner. If the front-runner was anyone else, he would have the nomination locked up by now. But Trump is so awful that the Party will never unify behind him, despite the process shoveling unearned delegates at him and despite the bandwagon effect.

    As Max Bialystock said in The Producers, “How could this happen? I was so careful. I picked the wrong play, the wrong director, the wrong cast. Where did I go right?”

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    • April 15, 2016, at 8:08 AM PDT
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  16. Thatcher

    WI Con:Send this to Drudge, Breitbart, Coulter and Laura Ingram. And the whining Comb over himself.

    Nice work.

    Rush Limbaugh could use an education on the Establishment Math with all his recent rants about how the Establishment is manipulating the primary process. Dennis Prager’s show has been much more listenable lately in comparison.

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    • April 15, 2016, at 8:08 AM PDT
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  17. Thatcher

    Brandon Shafer:This should be promoted over to the Main Feed IMHO.

    This should be on the Front Page of the New York Post

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    • April 15, 2016, at 8:17 AM PDT
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    Marion Evans Post author

    Frank Soto:

    Quinn the Eskimo:I reject your “Establishment math” which is based on logic and reason and embrace a more holistic “anti-Establishment math” which is based on feelings, mostly anger. According to my “anti-Establishment math,” Trump has 7,412.2 delegates and can be expected to win 693 votes in the electoral college.

    This is comment of the month.

    Seems that Trump does like math every now and then, but only in support of his selective outrage. From his WSJ op-ed today:

    Mr. Cruz has no democratic path to the nomination. He has been mathematically eliminated by the voters.

    How “democratic” is it that DT didn’t even get a majority in South Carolina, Florida and Arizona but received 100% of the delegates? The true democratic path that he is advocating at this conveniently late hour means that he would now have 565 delegates to Cruz’s 495 (see table in OP). Not exactly a margin worth bragging about. Not exactly a mandate to claim that you are the voice of the people.

    More from the op-ed:

    Let me ask America a question: How has the “system” been working out for you and your family?

    Answer: Not well for many in America, but it has worked great for DT in this campaign.

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    • April 15, 2016, at 8:32 AM PDT
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  19. Thatcher
    She

    Marion Evans:

    Quinn the Eskimo:I reject your “Establishment math” which is based on logic and reason and embrace a more holistic “anti-Establishment math” which is based on feelings, mostly anger. According to my “anti-Establishment math,” Trump has 7,412.2 delegates and can be expected to win 693 votes in the electoral college.

    That 0.2 is an arm and part of a torso, but his dying wish was to vote for Trump and we can’t disenfranchise what’s left of him.

    I guess he flunked “Establishment math” at Wharton. That’s the same math he would have needed to keep his companies out of bankruptcy.

    I think this ‘anti-establishment math’ is also working in the electoral polling this year, wherein Trump’s unfavorables are something like the following (I can’t be bothered to look them all up, but these are reasonably close):

    • Overall unfavorable rating: 67%
    • With men unfavorable rating: 60%
    • With women unfavorable rating: 75%
    • With Hispanics unfavorable rating: 90%
    • With African Americans unfavorable rating: 90%
    • With Liberals unfavorable rating: 80%
    • With Moderates unfavorable rating: 75%
    • With Conservatives unfavorable rating: 50%
    • With young people unfavorable rating: 75%
    • With middle-agers unfavorable rating: 65%
    • With geezers unfavorable rating: 60%

    *

    But the latest national poll is out from Fox News, and guess what–The Donald has taken a stunning lead, 45% for himself, Cruz with about 27, and Kasich close on his heels with something like 25%.

    I gave up on math right around the time someone started talking about imaginary numbers. Now I know why.

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    • April 15, 2016, at 8:50 AM PDT
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    Marion Evans Post author

    She:

    Marion Evans:

    Quinn the Eskimo:I reject your “Establishment math” which is based on logic and reason and embrace a more holistic “anti-Establishment math” which is based on feelings, mostly anger.

    I guess he flunked “Establishment math” at Wharton. That’s the same math he would have needed to keep his companies out of bankruptcy.

    I think this ‘anti-establishment math’ is also working in the electoral polling this year, wherein Trump’s unfavorables are something like the following (I can’t be bothered to look them all up, but these are reasonably close):

    • Overall unfavorable rating: 67%
    • With men unfavorable rating: 60%
    • With women unfavorable rating: 75%
    • With Hispanics unfavorable rating: 90%
    • With African Americans unfavorable rating: 90%
    • With Liberals unfavorable rating: 80%
    • With Moderates unfavorable rating: 75%
    • With Conservatives unfavorable rating: 50%
    • With young people unfavorable rating: 75%
    • With middle-agers unfavorable rating: 65%
    • With geezers unfavorable rating: 60%

    *

    But the latest national poll is out from Fox News, and guess what–The Donald has taken a stunning lead, 45% for himself, Cruz with about 27, and Kasich close on his heels with something like 25%.

    I gave up on math right around the time someone started talking about imaginary numbers. Now I know why.

    Don’t give up. 45% of the Republican voters means around 2o% of the general electorate, which does not contradict your list above.

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    • April 15, 2016, at 8:56 AM PDT
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  21. Inactive

    Via Legal Insurrection:

    (supporting my assertion that we have a democrat running for the republican nomination)

    Michael Cohen, Trump’s legal and campaign adviser, is demanding that Republicans unite around “Mr. Trump.”

    Of course, it is revealed near the end of the clip below, after a lengthy harangue of the RNC and Reince Preibus by Cohen, that Cohen is a Democrat and can’t even vote for Mr. Trump. Much like some of (Trump’s) own family members who campaign for him, who also are Democrats.

    http://legalinsurrection.com/2016/04/wherein-democrat-trump-adviser-lectures-republicans-on-party-unity/#more-168339

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    • April 15, 2016, at 9:31 AM PDT
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  22. Member

    This analysis is absolutely fantastic.

    Bravo!

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    • April 15, 2016, at 9:44 AM PDT
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