Oscar Open Thread

 

Did you watch the show last night? Thoughts on the winners? Dresses? Chris Rock? Does Mexico’s continued dominance in the Best Director category show that Americans just can’t win anymore?

Best Picture: “Spotlight

Direction: “The Revenant,” Alejandro G. Iñárritu

Actor: Leonardo DiCaprio, “The Revenant”

Actress: Brie Larson, “Room”

Supporting Actor: Mark Rylance, “Bridge of Spies”

Supporting Actress: Alicia Vikander, “The Danish Girl”

Adapted Screenplay: “The Big Short,” Charles Randolph and Adam McKay

Original Screenplay: “Spotlight,” Josh Singer and Tom McCarthy

Cinematography: “The Revenant,” Emmanuel Lubezki

Production Design: “Mad Max: Fury Road,” Colin Gibson and Lisa Thompson (set decoration)

Film Editing: “Mad Max: Fury Road,” Margaret Sixel

Visual Effects: “Ex Machina,” Andrew Whitehurst, Paul Norris, Mark Ardington and Sara Bennett

Costume Design: “Mad Max: Fury Road,” Jenny Beavan

Makeup: “Mad Max: Fury Road,” Lesley Vanderwalt, Elka Wardega and Damian Martin

Sound Editing: “Mad Max: Fury Road,” Mark Mangini and David White

Sound Mixing: “Mad Max: Fury Road,” Chris Jenkins, Gregg Rudloff and Ben Osmo

Score: “The Hateful Eight,” Ennio Morricone

Song: “Writing’s on the Wall,” from “Spectre,” Jimmy Napes and Sam Smith

Foreign Language Film: “Son of Saul” (Hungary)

Animated Feature: “Inside Out

Documentary Feature: “Amy

Animated Short: “Bear Story

Documentary Short: “A Girl in the River: The Price of Forgiveness

Live Action Short: “Stutterer

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  1. Tom Meyer, Ed. Contributor
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    I saw a reasonable number of nominees this year, but very few of the winners. Like Peter (and others) I found the first third of The Revenant to be downright masterful and the latter two-thirds to be a crashing bore (also, Tom Hardy was much more interesting than DiCaprio).

    In contrast — and speaking of Hardy — Mad Max was insanely griping from the first to the last frame. I don’t think I blinked for the entire run time. George Miller should have won.

    I am also sorry to see that The Martian got so little. It’s the first time in a while that Ridley Scott has worked with good script, and man was that movie ever entertaining.

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  2. Dave Carter Podcaster
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    I watched the first hour or so, I think.  The incessant race-baiting was dispiriting at first, then infuriating.

    Then the news finally came that my son and daughter in-law welcomed their first child into the world at 8:54 Eastern Time last night.  The sun now rises and sets in my little Isabelle Grace’s eyes, relegating the Oscars (in my humble opinion) to blissful and wonderful obscurity.  I turned the television off and the evening improved greatly.  I won’t be watching that political farce ever again.  I like being a Grandpa much better.

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  3. Lidens Cheng Member
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    Dave Carter:I watched the first hour or so, I think. The incessant race-baiting was dispiriting at first, then infuriating.

    Then the news finally came that my son and daughter in-law welcomed their first child into the world at 8:54 Eastern Time last night. The sun now rises and sets in my little Isabelle Grace’s eyes, relegating the Oscars (in my humble opinion) to blissful and wonderful obscurity. I turned the television off and the evening improved greatly. I won’t be watching that political farce ever again. I like being a Grandpa much better.

    Congratulation!

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  4. EJHill Podcaster
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    A thousand times no.

    Motion pictures hold no interest for me in the post-Titanic era. And by that I mean 1997, not 1912. The industry has become enslaved to political correctness on one hand and on the other…. Hey, that’s not a hand. It’s a green-screened transforming, web-slinging, fireball throwing something something whatchmacallit.

    Add the ticket price and a tub of popcorn that comes with both a mortgage and approximately half the salt used by the Ohio Turnpike Commission on a yearly basis and all you get from me is a big, fat yawn.

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  5. Johnny Dubya Inactive
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    All the racial handwringing about the Oscars is mighty strange. Is the point that there should be at least one black nominee in every category, every year? Is that even reasonable, and statistically possible? What about other minorities? Does Iñarritú count as a “person of color”*? How do we so quickly forget the years with great performances by nominees “of color”* in prestige films, and all the self-congratulatory press that attended those performances and nominations?

    *I like to use “person of color” in scare quotes to show my contempt for the left’s continuing to use “colored person” in a barely disguised form.

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  6. Manny Member
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    Tom Meyer, Ed.:
    GOLFX / Shutterstock.comDid you watch the show last night? Thoughts on the winners? Dresses? Chris Rock? Does Mexico’s continued dominance in the Best Director category show that Americans just can’t win anymore?

    We need to build a wall to prevent these these Mexican directors from getting to the sanctuary city of Hollywood so that American directors can fairly compete.  It would be yuuuuge.

    *sarcasm*

    Sorry for the dark humor.  The GOP primary has really gotten disgusting over the weekend.

    No, I never watch these award shows.

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  7. Johnny Dubya Inactive
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    EJ, do you mean that “Titanic” was the last of the good movies or the first of the bad ones?

    I understand how you feel – I don’t have any patience for dumbed-down sensory assaults. That’s why “Brooklyn” was such a welcome relief when I saw it a couple of weeks ago. It was slow-moving with a simple story, but I found it spellbinding because the acting and writing were exquisite.

    Movies such as this may be nearing extinction as we enter into an age of real-life “Idiocracy”. I suppose we can look forward to the movie version of “Ow, My Balls!” Look for President Trump’s cameo.

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  8. EJHill Podcaster
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    Titanic was a watershed of sorts. It set the record for most Oscar wins, yet none of them were for acting. CGI spectacle is now the forefront of everything. It’s become a comic book world.

    Everything else has to have a “message.”

    So that means I’m either caught in the 16th reboot of an “origin” story that’s so dark it makes Kafka look like Walt Disney or I can sit through two hours of a “you know you’re a racist, homophobic, transgender-hating bag of elephant manure that wants to starve children and burn up the planet” lecture.

    Even Pixar has gone deep end. Inside Out was a fantasy about preadolescent depression. Nothing says entertainment like animated characters who need Prozac.

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  9. Larry3435 Member
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    My Dad always told me that time was the test of greatness.  Will Spotlight stand the test of time?  My guess is that in 5 years nobody will remember it, and you won’t find it available for viewing anywhere but in the back bin of Netflix.  Does anyone remember The Artist (Best Picture in 2011)?

    Contrast that with the Best Pictures of the 1970’s:  Patton, The French Connection, Godfather I & II, The Sting, Cuckoo’s Nest, Rocky, Annie Hall, The Deer Hunter, and Kramer v. Kramer.  All of these films were commercially successful, and all of them remain popular to this day.

    Something has gone really wrong with the Academy Award process.

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  10. Lily Bart Inactive
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    I’m so sorry I missed being lectured to by jet-setting Leo DeCaprio about my carbon footprint.

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  11. Songwriter Inactive
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    Didn’t see the Oscars. But then I do not watch award shows of any stripe. And the only movie on the nomination list I saw was Fury Road. (I hesitate to add that I found it boring.)

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  12. Tom Meyer, Ed. Contributor
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    Larry3435: Does anyone remember The Artist (Best Picture in 2011)?

    For the record, I really liked The Artist.

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  13. Larry3435 Member
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    Tom Meyer, Ed.:

    Larry3435: Does anyone remember The Artist (Best Picture in 2011)?

    For the record, I really liked The Artist.

    I guess somebody had to.  But it was No. 168 on the list of top grossing films of 2011.  Popularity alone does not make a great film.  But No. 168?  Shouldn’t the very best picture of the year at least attract some people to see it?  I really liked Super 8 that same year, and it was No. 20.  Can’t we have a Best Picture that is both a critical and commercial success?  We used to.

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  14. Tom Meyer, Ed. Contributor
    Tom Meyer, Ed.
    @tommeyer

    Larry3435:

    I guess somebody had to. But it was No. 168 on the list of top grossing films of 2011. Popularity alone does not make a great film. But No. 168? Shouldn’t the very best picture of the year at least attract some people to see it? I really liked Super 8 that same year, and it was No. 20. Can’t we have a Best Picture that is both a critical and commercial success? We used to.

    As a general principle, I agree, and I find the disconnect worthy of concern. I believe the last time we had a genuine blockbuster win Best Picture was Return of the King, which was… a while ago. And the winners of the past few years have overwhelmingly been movies with poor showing.

    For what it’s worth, I do not understand how The Force Awakens did not get a nomination for Best Picture.

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  15. jeffp Member
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    I am Abe Vigoda.

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  16. kelsurprise Member
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    EJHill: Titanic was a watershed of sorts. It set the record for most Oscar wins,

    Tied the record, actually.  Ben Hur did it first.

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  17. Vance Richards Member
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    The Italian Stallion got snubbed? Evidently Italian-Americans can only play gangsters in today’s Hollywood. #Oscarsoracists

    (see, we can all play this game)

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  18. skipsul Inactive
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    Not watched the show in nigh on 25 years.  Not seen a single nominated film in this cycle, nor in most of the others in the last 20 years, have no plans to do so either.

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  19. Pugshot Member
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    I run a little Academy Award contest at work, so each year I watch the ceremony to tote up the winners – not any more! The whole ceremony has devolved into a political and cultural sewer! I get lectured on there not being enough black nominees (Louis C.K. finally opened it up to the need to have more Latino, Asian, etc. nominees). The winners increasingly feel the need to lecture me about their pet cause (“Global Warming” Leonardo being the most *memorable* – but not the only – lecturer this year. I remember when it was only the Documentary Feature and Documentary Short winners who felt the need to push their pet causes). I’m treated to the new designation for sex change operations: “gender re-assignment” (or “realignment”) surgery. Chris Rock has his daughters’ Girl Scout pack come out to “shame-sell” cookies to the millionaires. And, last, but not least, VP Joe “Roamin’ Hands” Biden is brought out to lecture me on the plague of sexual assault that is apparently running rampant (and he is followed by Lady Gaga singing a nominated song surrounded by “survivors” and an audience standing ovation). It’s gotten so that the only worthwhile part of the ceremony is the “In Memoriam” tribute – in part because those departed individuals don’t have to endure the Academy Awards any longer! I’m curious how someone connected to the Entertainment Industry feels about the whole Oscar abomination? Rob???

    [A side note to EJHill – what about “Bridge of Spies” this year? Yes, it used CGI, but only in the way that movies formerly used painted backdrops. Good story, good acting, good cinematography; good film score; good directing, etc. – i.e., an old-fashioned movie!]

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  20. DrewInWisconsin Member
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    Is it just me, or have there been a surprisingly large number of “white people are bad” movies over the last seven years?

    They’re often pitched as “see this person overcome the color barrier!” but really, at heart, the message that one can’t escape is “white people are bad.”

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  21. DrewInWisconsin Member
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    skipsul:Not watched the show in nigh on 25 years. Not seen a single nominated film in this cycle, nor in most of the others in the last 20 years, have no plans to do so either.

    I used to watch the Academy Awards when I was younger. When I went to more movies. When movies were cheaper.

    I think I saw exactly one movie in the theater last year. “Star Wars: The Force Awakens.” (No, wait . . . I actually didn’t see it until New Year’s Day.)

    Me + two kids + a couple small popcorns and a small soda = $50.00.

    That was a movie I wanted to see. If movies were cheaper, I might take a chance on some off-beat thing or some Oscar-bait. (Although probably not, because most of the Oscar bait is just preachy trash.)

    Anyway, I didn’t see anything that won this year in any category. Even with pre-teen daughters, I haven’t seen Inside Out. (Although I’ve seen parts of it via DVD.)

    I just wasn’t made for these times.

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  22. Front Seat Cat Member
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    We watched it and half the time my husband and I looked at each other and asked, “What did that mean?”.  It was not so much an awards night, but a platform for all the issues – black lives matter and skin color comments, gay issues, sexual abuse, swipes against the church with the girl scout thing, climate change and on and on – the Grammys were the same.  Come to think of it, many of the movies up for awards were sad, dark, violent.  What happened to the great song and dance segments, the glamour and fun? Bring back Billy Crystal! The only bright spots were Buzz Lightyear and the cartoon awards!

    I’m also getting tired of having this African Americans need to win more, be acknowledged more, you could feel this unnatural guilt in the jokes and constant in your face comments, like it’s someone’s fault that so and so didn’t get an award. Even on Public TV, I feel like it’s been one long Black History Year instead of month.

    It was also confusing – they would show some reels of a movie, but you didn’t know if it won – no one came up to get an award – too much malarkey and we’ll sit it out until it gets back to movie awards again.

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  23. KiminWI Member
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    I’m in a stage of life where I am forced to watch award shows whether I want to or not. I have teenaged daughters. Better to discuss the things that come up in such a context rather than a lecture.

    I don’t recall being more underwhelmed ever by one of these shows. Including the recent Grammies which muffed both Adele and the David Bowie tribute. Alicia Vikander’s gown was stunning; but it all went downhill from there.

    Most puzzling bit: Stacey Dash?

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  24. DrewInWisconsin Member
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    I am looking through a list of Best Picture nominees and winners. I have to go back to 2011 before I find one I’ve seen. “Midnight in Paris.”

    Then it’s back to 2003, when I managed to see “Return of the King,” “Master and Commander,” and “Lost in Translation.”

    (Earlier than 2003, there’s usually one or two in any given year that I saw.)

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  25. skipsul Inactive
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    DrewInWisconsin:Is it just me, or have there been a surprisingly large number of “white people are bad” movies over the last seven years?

    They’re often pitched as “see this person overcome the color barrier!” but really, at heart, the message that one can’t escape is “white people are bad.”

    It’s not just you.  Probably the most tortuous example was the utterly awful The Help, a prime example of a modern version of medieval passion play.

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  26. Pilli Inactive
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    The last two movies I have seen:  Ender’s Game  because I loved the books.  The most recent Star Wars because I wanted to be able to talk to the 30 somethings at work that still don’t know what the word adult means.  Side question:  When does one stop playing video games and get into adult activities?

    Anyway, movies aren’t much fun any more so I don’t go.  As for the Oscars, if i don’t go to movies, I’m certainly not going to waste time on a TV show about movies.

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  27. Tom Meyer, Ed. Contributor
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    DrewInWisconsin:Then it’s back to 2003, when I managed to see “Return of the King,” “Master and Commander,” and “Lost in Translation.”

    You’ve missed some really good movies. Just for fun, you should see Mad Max, Gravity, and The Martian. There are plenty of others I’d recommend, too, but those three are just a hoot.

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  28. Freesmith Inactive
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    I went to the movies yesterday. If you think last year’s movies were bad, wait until we and our children are given the opportunity to see the attractions which were previewed before the feature.

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  29. Annefy Member
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    I see all the Best Picture nominated movies each year in two marathon days (AMC Showcase). We go with friends every year and see the same people there every year. Always enjoyable.

    This is the first year in a long time where there wasn’t a lame movie in the bunch, I liked them all and loved some.

    I had already seen Mad Max Fury Road and enjoyed it a second time. Ditto with The Big Short.

    I cried through every minute of Brooklyn – the main character’s story was not dissimilar to my own mother’s. I thought Spotlight and Room were both terrific and showed incredible discipline on the part of the film makers.

    The Martian was a ton of fun. Now that I’ve seen The Martian, Gravity, Interstellar (multiple times), Armageddon (multiple times) and Deep Impact (multiple times) I now feel qualified to come up with a plan in the event of a space emergency. Sling shot around the nearest planet/moon/black hole.

    As for Revenant? If it had lasted any longer I would have rooted for the bear to come back. But the first half was outstanding.

    p.s. Didn’t watch the awards for the first time in years. Don’t feel as though I missed anything.

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  30. DrewInWisconsin Member
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    Pilli:Side question: When does one stop playing video games and get into adult activities?

    I’m not sure when I stopped (I haunted arcades with a pocketful of quarters when I was in high school), but once we had kids, I somehow started again. I spend a good portion of this evening being taught the ways of Super Mario 3D World.

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