Republican Self-Sabotage

 

shutterstock_193802486The latest CBS poll suggests that the Trump juggernaut continues to roll, with 35 percent of Republicans supporting him. Ted Cruz, his nearest rival, garners 18 percent. Jeb Bush, the candidate who should have been the obvious choice if conventional wisdom about money and politics were even remotely true, is dead last with 4 percent. In vain does Ted Cruz protest that Donald Trump is not a conservative. Among those who describe themselves as “very conservative,” 35 percent favor Trump versus 30 percent for Cruz, and 12 percent for Rubio.

In South Carolina, Trump is ahead among the evangelical voters Ted Cruz targeted as his savior army that would rise up to carry a true conservative to victory. According to a Fox News poll (2/18), Trump leads Cruz 31 percent to 23 percent among evangelical Christians. And while Cruz leads among those who identify as “very conservative” it’s a razor-thin edge (well within the margin of error).

As in New Hampshire, Trump leads nationally among a broad swath of voters. Not only those with just a high school diploma (47 percent), but also those with some college (33 percent), and college graduates (25 percent). He is the preference of men and women, and among all income groups including those earning more than $100,000.

Any number of theories have been advanced about the Trump voters – that they represent the downscale whites who have been abandoned by the Republican Party, or that they are enraged by Republican failure to secure the border.

But as noted, Trump does well among upscale voters too. As for the great immigration rage, it’s not all it’s cracked up to be. Immigration was listed last among matters that were on voters’ minds in Iowa and New Hampshire. Besides, Trump did well even among voters who said they favored a path to citizenship for illegals living here.

No, there’s a better theory for why 35 percent of Republican primary voters are ready to hand the nomination to a bullying, loutish con man who accuses George W. Bush of war crimes while promising to commit some of his own (killing the wives and children of suspected terrorists, stealing the oil of Middle Eastern nations).

For the past several years, leading voices of what Matt Lewis has called “con$ervative” media, along with groups like Heritage Action, and politicians like Sen. Ted Cruz, have ceaselessly flogged the false narrative that the Republican “grassroots” have been betrayed by the Republican leadership in Washington.

Rather than aim their anger at President Obama and the Democrats, right wing websites, commentators like Ann Coulter and Mark Levin, and many others have instead repeated the libel that “Republicans gave Obama everything he wanted.” There has been a flavor of the “stab in the back” to these accusations. But for the treachery of the Republican Party, they claim, a party too timorous or too corrupt to stand up to Obama, we could have defunded Obamacare, balanced the budget, halted the Iran deal, you name it.

Aiming fire at your own side can be very satisfying for radio wranglers, et al. They have zero influence on Obama, but they can take down Eric Cantor. They can’t do much about Eric Holder, but they can dethrone John Boehner.

This is not to say that Republican leaders were perfect or that they couldn’t have done more in some instances to put bills on Obama’s desk – even if only to force vetoes and lay down markers for the next election. But the list of Obama initiatives Republicans thwarted is very long (universal pre-K, gun control, “paycheck fairness,” higher taxes). Moreover, the bloc of conservatives in the House that refused to vote for any budget made it that much more difficult for leadership to exert pressure on Democrats. Lastly, who believes it makes no difference that Republicans control the Senate in the wake of Justice Scalia’s death?

So congratulations to those conservatives who’ve been preaching the “betrayal” of the base by the establishment. You’ve won. You’ve convinced 70 percent of the Republican primary electorate (per the CBS poll) that the most important quality in a candidate is that he will “shake up the political system.”

With all its faults, the Republican Party is the only vehicle for conservative ideas in this country. Conservatives themselves, or at least those who styled themselves conservatives, may have sabotaged it, handing the reins not to a moderate, nor even to a liberal Republican, but to a lifelong Democrat.

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  1. Jamie Lockett Member
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    Ed G.:

    Jamie Lockett:

    Ed G.:

    BThompson:

    Ed G.:

    If the US is buying it back with interest, what are we buying it back with? We’re just shifting currency around at that point and we keep losing ever more currency in the deal (i.e. the interest).

    We’re paying it back with US economic growth which ultimately puts more money into the government coffers. […..]

    We don’t pay debt payments in Growth. We pay in currency, right? So if the Chinese buy $100 of US debt, at maturity we’ll pay them $110 in US currency?

    So they end up being creditors – creditors we can never get out from under apparently. Or they own our productive assets – I’m not sure that helps us either.

    But Growth makes that $110 worth less to us overall because it generated $250 in additional GDP. And even better that $110 is worth less than the initial $100 we sent them because inflation over 30 years has lowered the value of the US dollar.

    Ok, so again why are they doing it? What do they get out of it?

    I’ve already answered that.

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  2. BThompson Inactive
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    Real estate increases don’t necessarily reflect inflation or a bubble. It typically reflects the desirability of a particular location and that desirability it effected by everything taking place in area around the home. If the amount of economic activity has grown, if school systems have improved, if there have been great infrastructure improvements, if there have been declines in surrounding areas making demand in your area higher, all of these things increase the real value of your home, whether you have made any improvements to your home or there has been any deterioration in the physical condition of your home. The value of your home is at least as much related to it’s location as it is to the amenities of your home.

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  3. BThompson Inactive
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    Ed G.:

    BThompson:[….]

    Also, if our GDP grows faster than our debt grows, even if we never become debt free, that’s not really a problem. As long as our debt as a percentage of our productive capacity shrinks that is perfectly sustainable and fine.

    OK, but I don’t think that proposition is a given.

    Of course it’s not, buying debt is always a risk. It just so happens that despite our current problems and weaknesses, we still look better than any other place in the world to invest.

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  4. Ed G. Member
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    Jamie Lockett:

    […..]

    According to the arithmetic that’s correct. But real value is independent of inflation. Real gains in value are, well, valuable. Inflationary gains in value are neutral at best. Bubbles don’t necessarily reflect actual value. Truth is, if my $1 million dollar 1980 home is worth $2 million in 2010 then I suspect either that’s inflation or significant additional investment because homes don’t improve themselves and newer homes with the latest and greatest tend to lessen the value of older homes.

    The supply or demand curve could have shifted for housing in your area.

    Sure, that a real increase in value independent of inflation and bubbles.

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  5. Ed G. Member
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    BThompson:Real estate increases don’t necessarily reflect inflation or a bubble. It typically reflects the desirability of a particular location and that desirability it effected by everything taking place in area around the home. If the amount of economic activity has grown, if school systems have improved, if there have been great infrastructure improvements, if there have been declines in surrounding areas making demand in your area higher, all of these things increase the real value of your home, whether you have made any improvements to your home or there has been any deterioration in the physical condition of your home. The value of your home is at least as much related to it’s location as it is to the amenities of your home.

    Of course, but a house itself doesn’t inherently increase in value was my point in response to Jamie’s point. Quite the opposite even if the neighborhood’s desirability stays steady.

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  6. Ed G. Member
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    BThompson:

    Ed G.:

    BThompson:[….]

    Also, if our GDP grows faster than our debt grows, even if we never become debt free, that’s not really a problem. As long as our debt as a percentage of our productive capacity shrinks that is perfectly sustainable and fine.

    OK, but I don’t think that proposition is a given.

    Of course it’s not, buying debt is always a risk. It just so happens that despite our current problems and weaknesses, we still look better than any other place in the world to invest.

    But what do they get out of buying our debt? We’re not talking about the local banker deciding whether to invest in the business down the street. If the investment is paid off in dollars and they’re not using the dollars to buy our stuff and they can’t use the dollars elsewhere, then what do they get out of it?

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  7. Ed G. Member
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    Jamie Lockett:

    Ed G.:

    Jamie Lockett:

    Ed G.:

    BThompson:

    Ed G.:

    If the US is buying it back with interest, what are we buying it back with? We’re just shifting currency around at that point and we keep losing ever more currency in the deal (i.e. the interest).

    We’re paying it back with US economic growth which ultimately puts more money into the government coffers. […..]

    We don’t pay debt payments in Growth. We pay in currency, right? So if the Chinese buy $100 of US debt, at maturity we’ll pay them $110 in US currency?

    So they end up being creditors – creditors we can never get out from under apparently. Or they own our productive assets – I’m not sure that helps us either.

    But Growth makes that $110 worth less to us overall because it generated $250 in additional GDP. And even better that $110 is worth less than the initial $100 we sent them because inflation over 30 years has lowered the value of the US dollar.

    Ok, so again why are they doing it? What do they get out of it?

    I’ve already answered that.

    Where? You said they get a rock solid currency. A currency they can’t use elsewhere and they don’t use here. To what end?

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  8. BThompson Inactive
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    Ed G.:

    BThompson:

    Ed G.:

    BThompson:[….]

    Also, if our GDP grows faster than our debt grows, even if we never become debt free, that’s not really a problem. As long as our debt as a percentage of our productive capacity shrinks that is perfectly sustainable and fine.

    OK, but I don’t think that proposition is a given.

    Of course it’s not, buying debt is always a risk. It just so happens that despite our current problems and weaknesses, we still look better than any other place in the world to invest.

    But what do they get out of buying our debt? We’re not talking about the local banker deciding whether to invest in the business down the street. If the investment is paid off in dollars and they’re not using the dollars to buy our stuff and they can’t use the dollars elsewhere, then what do they get out of it?

    It depends on which country or foreign investor you’re talking about. Many foreigners, as do many domestic investors, simply use the US treasuries as a hedge against economic calamity. Even though it has low returns, it’s seen as incredibly safe. The Chinese buy treasuries to help keep the Yuan stable against the dollar and keep the Yuan from appreciating against the dollar. This insures that Chinese export goods, the engine of the Chinese economy, stay cheap in one of China’s largest markets, and thereby keep the Chinese economy growing.

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  9. Solon Inactive
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    Jager:I guess I will hold my breath waiting for the smart coherent argument. The idea of this piece is that Trump is bad (a fine position by itself) and that he exists because 70% of Republican voters were taken in by the lies (flogged false narrative) of Ted Cruz and some conservative media.

    … It is just as likely that 70% of the voters( or at least some significant portion of this group) felt betrayed and Ted Cruz and Mark Levin were giving voice to this pre-existing concern.

    It was not enough to say Trump is bad, the opportunity to call Ted Cruz and Mark Levin liars could not be missed.

    70% of voters did not think for themselves and were easily led by charlatans, does not seem like simple disagreement.

    No, you disagree, so you therefore say her argument is not smart or coherent.  It makes perfect sense, it’s just not how you see things.  Big difference.

    But you are right, this is more than a simple disagreement.  I think many of us who are technically on the same side are as frustrated with each other as we are with liberals!  Luckily, the Dems are in total disarray as well.  Or, unluckily for our country.

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  10. Ball Diamond Ball Member
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    Solon, you just think that way because you have been duped.

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  11. Douglas Inactive
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    Man With the Axe:Would you people stop insulting Romney? When you do you are really saying that the people who voted for him were rubes and dupes.

    No, I think most Republicans weren’t duped by Romney at all. We knew exactly what he was. And that’s why it was so depressing when he was made “inevitable” early on. Jeb getting in early was a sign that we were in for… how did we put it earlier? Ah yes.  “More of the same“. Thus, Trump.

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  12. Douglas Inactive
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    Larry3435:

    Rebelling? I think “revolting” might be a better word. Yes, I think there’s an old joke about the peasants revolting…

    As long as you’re going to reference the joke, let’s paraphrase it then, shall we?

    Conservatism, Inc. :”Sire, the base is revolting!”

    GOPe: “You got it. They stink on ice!”

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  13. Man With the Axe Inactive
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    Douglas:

    Man With the Axe:Would you people stop insulting Romney? When you do you are really saying that the people who voted for him were rubes and dupes.

    No, I think most Republicans weren’t duped by Romney at all. We knew exactly what he was. And that’s why it was so depressing when he was made “inevitable” early on. Jeb getting in early was a sign that we were in for… how did we put it earlier? Ah yes. “More of the same“. Thus, Trump.

    I should have made clear that I was joking.

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  14. Solon Inactive
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    Ball Diamond Ball:Solon, you just think that way because you have been duped.

    That is interesting, I thought the backlash against this post was that it implies that people were dumb enough to bet duped by politicians and radio hosts.  So the reply is, ‘No, you are the ones being duped.’

    This reminds me of conversations with left-wingers:  They say, ‘You’re being duped by oil companies and bankers!’  I say, ‘You’re being duped by climate alarmists and left-wing universities!’

    I guess we’re all being duped!

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  15. Ball Diamond Ball Member
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    Don’t get all rational on me now, Solon

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  16. Solon Inactive
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    Ball Diamond Ball:Don’t get all rational on me now, Solon

    That’s what the square root of 2 always says…

    Be well!

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