Marco on the Move, or, a Sudden Eruption of Sanity?

 

As the Rubio campaign prepares to blanket Iowa with a 30-minute television specialThe Hill reports that “Buzz Builds for Rubio.” An excerpt:

Buzz is growing on the ground in Iowa around Marco Rubio, who many political watchers believe is set for a stronger-than-expected showing at Monday’s caucuses.

In interviews with The Hill, Iowa Republicans and independent analysts in the state say Rubio is primed to break free from the second tier of contenders and finally emerge as the candidate to save the establishment from Donald Trump and Ted Cruz, who are battling for the lead in Iowa.

“He easily has the greatest upside,” said Doug Gross, who served as Iowa finance chairman for the campaigns of George W. Bush and Mitt Romney.

Forty-eight hours to go, folks.

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  1. Vice-Potentate Member

    I hope so, but I remember the buzz about a Romney surge before the last election. Remember Pennsylvania and Michigan?

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    • January 30, 2016, at 12:07 PM PDT
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  2. Eeyore Member

    And Ted Cruz is insane?

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    • January 30, 2016, at 12:13 PM PDT
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  3. Casey Inactive

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    • January 30, 2016, at 12:18 PM PDT
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  4. Pete Inactive

    No, I get it. Rubio is genuinely solid (98% to Cruz at 99%, in my opinion). And there’s something to be said for Rubio being able to persuade people, a weakness for Cruz. Think about the down the ticket wins with a Rubio/Fiorina ticket, the Supreme Court picks, etc. There are great reasons for optimism with this guy, even if he’s not perfect.

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    • January 30, 2016, at 12:19 PM PDT
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  5. Sash Member

    When Marco Rubio is too liberal for you, there is just something wrong with the way you see the world.

    Rubio has all the qualities that Hillary can not beat.

    My first choice has been Rubio for a while now… I do get why Trump could win. I think it is very dangerous, but I get it. And will adapt if that is the case.

    But Rubio is a person to vote for, not a choice between two evils.

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    • January 30, 2016, at 12:42 PM PDT
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  6. Dave Sussman Contributor

    Many of us on Rico have liked Rubio from the beginning of this cycle. I truly believe he is the best chance the GOP has to win a general election. Match him with a Martinez, Fiorina, or Haley and it’s a slam dunk.

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    • January 30, 2016, at 12:46 PM PDT
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  7. Von Snrub Inactive

    Pete:No, I get it. Rubio is genuinely solid (98% to Cruz at 99%, in my opinion). And there’s something to be said for Rubio being able to persuade people, a weakness for Cruz. Think about the down the ticket wins with a Rubio/Fiorina ticket, the Supreme Court picks, etc. There are great reasons for optimism with this guy, even if he’s not perfect.

    Fiorina: snooze fest! Rubio could run alone. He’s has a disarming normalness to himself that Hillary does not.

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    • January 30, 2016, at 12:47 PM PDT
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  8. Drusus Coolidge

    From your lips to God’s ears…

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    • January 30, 2016, at 12:47 PM PDT
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  9. raycon and lindacon Inactive

    Great, another conservative who, if he wins, will be marginalized by the same party hacks and “consultants” as usual. And we will have forever lost our chance to the destroy the prevailing status quo which has enabled the 60 years of mostly unbroken march of the left-progressives to remain in place as the elite consolidate their separate class status, and we serfs assume our designated servitude within the European Union that we have almost achieved.

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    • January 30, 2016, at 12:49 PM PDT
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  10. drlorentz Member

    “Our nation is headed in the wrong direction and both parties are to blame.”

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    • January 30, 2016, at 1:01 PM PDT
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  11. Lash LaRoche Inactive

    Marco Rubio = more of the same

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    • January 30, 2016, at 1:10 PM PDT
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  12. drlorentz Member

    Mike LaRoche:Marco Rubio = more of the same

    So, I take it you’re voting for Bernie. You gotta admit, he’s the most different.

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    • January 30, 2016, at 1:16 PM PDT
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  13. BuckeyeSam Inactive

    Rubio: 12 to 30 million more Democratic voters assimilated in hard-left non-profits yielding a worse one-party state than we have.

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    • January 30, 2016, at 1:28 PM PDT
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  14. Casey Inactive

    Mike LaRoche:Marco Rubio = more of the same

    These kinds of comments are fascinating to me. Out of a nation of 300 million people about a dozen people who have spent their adult lives in politics, navigating the realities of their party, begging from the same pool of donors, put themselves forth and attempt to convince lots of people that they are all the same thing. This is all for a job whose most important function is presiding.

    Of course we’re going to get more of the same. That’s the whole thing.

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    • January 30, 2016, at 1:33 PM PDT
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  15. Douglas Inactive

    Rubio is only sanity if you think doing the same thing over and over again will somehow how get you different results this time.

    “Of course we’re going to get more of the same. That’s the whole thing.”

    Then why bother? The same is what’s ruining the country.

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    • January 30, 2016, at 1:37 PM PDT
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  16. Profile Photo Member

    Sash: When Marco Rubio is too liberal for you, there is just something wrong with the way you see the world.

    If the Republicans lose in 2016 and Cruz runs again in 2020, we’ll be talking about how much of a lefty squish he is.

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    • January 30, 2016, at 1:48 PM PDT
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  17. Tim Wright Inactive

    Any politician with a little skill at that level can position himself on the issues to earn a “conservative” label. What matters is who you represent. Considering Rubio’s merchandising of himself to the sugar interests in Florida, and his sellout to the chamber of commerce on immigration/amnesty, I consider it an act of sanity not to support him. I don’t particularly like Ted Cruz, but his taking on ethanol says what I need to know about him. Tim

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    • January 30, 2016, at 1:59 PM PDT
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  18. Casey Inactive

    Douglas: Then why bother?

    Is not a matter of bothering and not bothering.

    In poker a straight flush beats four of a kind. But you don’t toss a four of a kind hoping to draw a straight flush. Both hands have a good chance of winning.

    In politics the difference between four of a kind and a straight flush is mostly a matter of opinion. You’d rather have a straight flush but if you can only convince people to join in on four off a kind you play that hand to win.

    That’s just how the game is played.

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    • January 30, 2016, at 2:04 PM PDT
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  19. BThompson Inactive

    Tim Wright:I don’t particularly like Ted Cruz, but his taking on ethanol says what I need to know about him. Tim

    Ending ethanol would be great for the oil industry. Cruz’s stand against ethanol is simply consistent with supporting his donor base, it’s not especially principled. Trying to win in Iowa by opposing it is pretty ballsy. If it doesn’t pay off in a victory in Iowa, though, it will just prove Ted’s arrogance takes risks his snake oil demeanor can’t deliver on.

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    • January 30, 2016, at 2:08 PM PDT
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  20. Valiuth Member

    Mike LaRoche:Marco Rubio = more of the same

    You mean an Imperial presidency run by decries, completely ignoring congress and all previous democratic precedents?

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    • January 30, 2016, at 2:12 PM PDT
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  21. Eeyore Member

    Casey:In politics the difference between four of a kind and a straight flush is mostly a matter of opinion. You’d rather have a straight flush but if you can only convince people to join in on four off a kind you play that hand to win.

    That’s just how the game is played.

    All for naught. The Dems are gonna take it with 5 Aces.

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    • January 30, 2016, at 2:13 PM PDT
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  22. MarciN Member

    I just got a very strange e-mail from the Cruz campaign, and I’m wondering if things are really that bad. I’m leaning toward Rubio at the moment, but I would hope Cruz was doing better than his email makes it sound:

    You’re my last resort.

    This is the hardest thing I’ve ever done. I’m emailing you again because you’re one of a trusted few.

    I’ve got less than 36 hours to raise $126,000 or risk letting you and all of the dedicated volunteers in Iowa down.

    The latest polling shows that Donald’s attacks against me are swaying voters, and unless we can hit this goal and give our volunteers the resources they need — we may not turn out enough voters for the Iowa Caucus.

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    • January 30, 2016, at 2:22 PM PDT
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  23. BThompson Inactive

    MarciN:I just got a very strange e-mail from the Cruz campaign, and I’m wondering if things are really that bad. I’m leaning toward Rubio at the moment, but I would hope Cruz was doing better than his email makes it sound:

    It’s just a scare tactic to make you open your wallet. Cruz has tried a few shady tactics to get Iowans to support him. This mailer story below seems especially strange, and IMO opinion counterproductive.

    Did The Cruz Campaign Send Out Mailers Attempting To Shame Iowa Voters?

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    • January 30, 2016, at 2:30 PM PDT
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  24. Scott R Member

    The 30 minute infomercial is potentially brilliant. Propaganda works after all, and the late deciders might very well tune in, while tuning out the ads that they’re surely sick of by now.

    Coupled with his solid debate the other night, it could push him to the top in the “final impression” contest — important in Iowa, which always seems to be decided by some goofy late surge.

    Here’s hoping.

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    • January 30, 2016, at 2:40 PM PDT
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  25. Douglas Inactive

    Valiuth:

    Mike LaRoche:Marco Rubio = more of the same

    You mean an Imperial presidency run by decries, completely ignoring congress and all previous democratic precedents?

    We’ve had an Imperial Presidency since 1932. Democrats are just better at using Caesar’s power. No one… not Rubio, Not Cruz, not Trump, and certainly not a Democrat, is going to change that. The Supreme Court’s cowardice in the 30’s enshrined the Empire into law.

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    • January 30, 2016, at 2:44 PM PDT
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  26. Eeyore Member

    MarciN: You’re my last resort!!!!!!!!!!!

    It may be too cynical, but this seems like fundraising boilerplate. I haven’t heard from Ted in a few days, but this is pretty much identical to the emails I get on a pretty regular basis from 2A groups: “We’re desperate! Only a few hours left before Obama tries to takes all your guns by Executive Order. Your urgent donation…”

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    • January 30, 2016, at 2:45 PM PDT
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  27. Casey Inactive

    Eeyore:

    MarciN: You’re my last resort!!!!!!!!!!!

    It may be too cynical, but this seems like fundraising boilerplate. I haven’t heard from Ted in a few days, but this is pretty much identical to the emails I get on a pretty regular basis from 2A groups: “We’re desperate! Only a few hours left before Obama tries to takes all your guns by Executive Order. Your urgent donation…”

    SANEBOX!

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    • January 30, 2016, at 2:49 PM PDT
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  28. Jerry Giordano (Arizona Patrio… Member

    Eeyore:And Ted Cruz is insane?

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    Neither Peter, nor the article he quoted, stated or implied that Cruz was insane. The phrase was “save the establishment from . . . Ted Cruz.” Cruz is certainly anti-establishment, and bless him for it.

    Ross Douthat at the NY Times had an article earlier this week asking why Rubio wasn’t doing better, and positing that it is because he is too conservative for the establishment. I know, it’s the NYT, but Douthat is a reasonably solid conservative (the only one they have, I think) and a good analyst.

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    • January 30, 2016, at 3:06 PM PDT
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  29. katievs Member

    I have warmed to Cruz since San Bernadino—thinking that perhaps voters will want toughness over likability this cycle—but, I still think Rubio is our best chance of winning the general.

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    • January 30, 2016, at 3:16 PM PDT
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  30. Eeyore Member

    Arizona Patriot:

    Eeyore:And Ted Cruz is insane?

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    Neither Peter, nor the article he quoted, stated or implied that Cruz was insane. The phrase was “save the establishment from . . . Ted Cruz.” Cruz is certainly anti-establishment, and bless him for it.

    Ross Douthat at the NY Times had an article earlier this week asking why Rubio wasn’t doing better, and positing that it is because he is too conservative for the establishment. I know, it’s the NYT, but Douthat is a reasonably solid conservative (the only one they have, I think) and a good analyst.

    AP, I try never to let facts get in the way of the occasionally half-decent snark. I’ll have to admit, tho, that I was somewhat willing to read that into Peter’s not specifically excluding Ted from the headline’s implication, within the body copy.

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