Is There a Real Alternative to the Ideas of Trumpism?

 

RTX1ZP41_trump_supporters-e1451321671210Let’s posit that Donald Trump’s polling power — particularly among white working-class voters — mostly reflects that group’s economic troubles and anxieties about the future. What sort of economically-sound agenda might resonate with these voters? Something other than border walls, immigrant roundups and deportation, and trade wars with Asia.

In his much buzzed-about The Atlantic piece, David Frum tries to outline just such an agenda:

Admittedly, this may be the most uncongenial thought of them all, but party elites could try to open more ideological space for the economic interests of the middle class. Make peace with universal health-insurance coverage: Mend Obamacare rather than end it. Cut taxes less at the top, and use the money to deliver more benefits to working families in the middle. Devise immigration policy to support wages, not undercut them. Worry more about regulations that artificially transfer wealth upward, and less about regulations that constrain financial speculation. …

Take seriously issues such as the length of commutes, nursing-home costs, and the anticompetitive practices that inflate college tuition. Remember that Republican voters care more about aligning government with their values of work and family than they care about cutting the size of government as an end in itself. Recognize that the gimmick of mobilizing the base with culture-war outrages stopped working at least a decade ago. Such a party would cut health-care costs by squeezing providers, not young beneficiaries. It would boost productivity by investing in hard infrastructure—bridges, airports, water-treatment plants. It would restore Dwight Eisenhower to the Republican pantheon alongside Ronald Reagan and emphasize the center in center-right.

1) This is directionally correct although I may differ on some particulars and wording.

For instance: universal health insurance should be a goal of center-right healthcare policy. As should major reform of Obamacare. But at some point “repeal” vs. “reform” or “ending” vs. “mending” becomes an unhelpful and distracting quibble. It’s like how many parts can you replace on your car before it’s really a different vehicle?

Imagine reform that a) continues to give subsidies to buy health insurance, b) nudges those who can afford it already to buy it, but c) is more geared toward financially protecting people from high-cost, low probability catastrophic events rather than providing comprehensive coverage. Would this repeal or reform Obamacare? Does it matter? Whatever you call it, this system would not return to the pre-Obamacare status quo or maintain the current one, while also moving us toward universal coverage.

2) Likewise, expanded government infrastructure spending and science research should be part of a pro-productivity agenda, but so should smart business tax reform and anti-cronyist deregulation. We need a ruthlessly competitive and dynamic private sector combined with a modernized safety net (including reforms of Social Security and Medicare).

But more broadly, GOP-leaning policymakers need to look at the actual problems facing middle-class voters today and respond with something more than promises of superfast growth driven by high-end tax cuts. Sure, Trump does offer just such a tax plan, but he talks about it far less than illegal immigration and trade. But Trump is about more than the substance or practicality of his policies. Combined with his inflammatory rhetoric and combative personal style, Trump’s ideas signal to working class voters that he “gets it” and that he’s just not another lobbyist-pleasing Washington politician. He’s a disruptor who’ll shatter the status quo.

3) So is a pro-growth/middle class/family conservative reform agenda adequate to counter Trumpian populism, especially if espoused by a traditional politician? I think so. Just as older politicians can appeal to younger voters, governors and senators can appeal to those looking for big change. Obama, Clinton, and Reagan all did this. Maybe Cruz, Rubio, Christie, or Bush can do the same.

But so far during this campaign there has been relatively little effort to offer clearly such a different agenda. Do GOP voters really know what the candidates would do about, say, making college more affordable and a better value? Maybe now would be a good time to start.

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  1. Franco Member
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    Kwhopper: I have become so tired of James P. posts. As Brent (I think) has said before, he just throws this stuff out on Ricochet and never participates. There are almost always serious structural problems and presuppositions in his posts. I really wish he would defend them.

    And who is he talking to? I don’t get it. But he can’t defend his assertions because of what you just said. He is a top-down policy wonk of the first order. He doesn’t care what happens in the comments, he’s busy ruminating on his next policy.

    Ricochet is a dropbox for James. This is cross-posted on other sites and outlets. I’m glad he posts here.

    He reminds me how clueless the GOPe is.

    And why is that? Because they don’t listen. You can’t learn if you don’t listen.

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  2. Guruforhire Inactive
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    Franco:

    Kwhopper: I have become so tired of James P. posts. As Brent (I think) has said before, he just throws this stuff out on Ricochet and never participates. There are almost always serious structural problems and presuppositions in his posts. I really wish he would defend them.

    And who is he talking to? I don’t get it. But he can’t defend his assertions because of what you just said. He is a top-down policy wonk of the first order. He doesn’t care what happens in the comments, he’s busy ruminating on his next policy.

    Ricochet is a dropbox for James. This is cross-posted on other sites and outlets. I’m glad he posts here.

    He reminds me how clueless the GOPe is.

    And why is that? Because they don’t listen. You can’t learn if you don’t listen.

    I use him as a healthy reminder at how abjectly intellectually bankrupt reformicons are.

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  3. Duane Oyen Member
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    EThompson:

    ………….. If China wants to make its citizens poorer by providing US consumers cheap goods, it is great for us.

    I need to step in here on this China “cheap products” issue. You get what you pay for and every single time I buy anything made in that country it has to be replaced in 3-6 months. How are we saving?

    I’m consistently irritated at the time I spend replacing home products or even t-shirts because they don’t wear well. My favorite Lacoste shirt ($78 dollars) is now made in Peru and I’m afraid to wash it…

    I’d be willing to pay $90 dollars for it to made in the USA and if I could keep it for 18 months.

    If US-made shirts are better, maybe you need to start a company to make them in the US.  Or maybe the issue is that Lacoste’s US management has done a crappy job of selecting materials and establishing manufacturing specifications; based on my manufacturing background, that is usually the issue, not the person on the assembly line, who just does what and how she is told with the materials they give to her.   The problem is almost always that those who set up the production line, manage the component supply chain, and manage the tech data package have whiffed, usually by chasing bad goals.

    Hex on Aaron Rodgers.

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  4. Duane Oyen Member
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    TKC1101:Asserting my working class upbringing (my dad drove a truck and quit school in the 8th grade to help support the family, mom cleaned houses)…………..

    Below is a list ……………. motivation for lower middle and working class voters.

    ……….. desire for the elites to STOP doing stupid things……….

    1. Importing more low skilled foreign workers ……
    2. Bringing in illegal immigrants with a welfare state ……..
    3. Denouncing, vilifying and banning practice of the majority religion …….
    4. Responding to the killing of citizens with the attempt to disarm the citizens ……..
    5. Keeping interest rates so low that the modest income class has little way to save for a future  (apparently never heard of Vanguard….)
    6. Promoting an artificial crisis in the climate………….
    7. Delivering a completely deficient education paid for by their money with increasing costs, decreasing performance of students…………..
    8. Using the entertainment media to insult and vilify their cherished beliefs…………….
    9. After this group saw husbands , wives, sons and daughters do multiple tours , National Guard units sent overseas and the taking of cities with painful loss, they then saw the cities handed back without a thought…………..
    10. This group sees Federal mismanagement and out and out graft and criminality occur and no federal employee fired……..
    11. Sending skilled jobs overseas with trade deals that are poorly thought out in terms of national capacity……….

    So the “GOPe” whatever that is (“THEY” to the black helicopter crowd) pushes this incoherent and unrelated set of situations, most of which are virulently opposed by virtually every GOP politician?

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  5. Franco Member
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    Duane Oyen: So the “GOPe” whatever that is (“THEY” to the black helicopter crowd) pushes this incoherent and unrelated set of situations, most of which are virulently opposed by virtually every GOP politician?

    Black helicopter, whatever that is..I only see them in the movies. Thus they don’t exist – just like the GOPe doesn’t exist.

    GOPe deniers: living in a world where abstractions don’t exist since 1964

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  6. Lazy_Millennial Inactive
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    Big Green:Airbus is subsidized by most large European governments, not just France. As for your first paragraph, we will agree to disagree. Your argument for subsidies in circumstance (A) doesn’t make much sense to me at all at would be an administrative nightmare due to being incredibly complicated and would introduce a plethora of opportunities for graft.

    Agreed with your point about graft- if actually enacted law for all businesses, we’d see many companies suddenly discover “competitors” that make them qualify. I’m talking about supporting this as a principle, and occasionally applying it on a case-by-case basis while encouraging other countries to enter into trade agreements where we simultaneously drop subsidies.

    In the long run, I want free trade. It seems like we’ve been pursuing that policy by “leading by example” generally, and giving carveouts specifically based on campaign contributions. I’m arguing for switching to a “proportional response” principle, which would be threatened frequently and only occasionally applied. Obviously these “occasionally applied” instances could (would?) quickly balloon into the spending sprees we’re currently seeing. But that’s just the rub: we’re already seeing them. A President who was maliciously against subsidies generally but advocated proportional response to foreign subsidies could be better, on net, at getting us to closer worldwide free trade.

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  7. TKC1101 Member
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    Duane Oyen: So the “GOPe” whatever that is (“THEY” to the black helicopter crowd) pushes this incoherent and unrelated set of situations, most of which are virulently opposed by virtually every GOP politician?

    Most GOP politicians have been bought and paid for on open borders for a very long time. See Bush, McCain, et al.

    Any support for Federalized DOE has led to inferior schools with higher costs, see Common Core.

    The GOP establishment has refused to refute the climate hoax, afraid of offending ‘the holy independents’

    Trade deals which destroy skilled jobs are a GOP specialty.

    And on and on.

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  8. Hank Rhody Contributor
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    Duane Oyen:Hex on Aaron Rodgers.

    He doesn’t need it!

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  9. EThompson Member
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    Duane Oyen:

    EThompson:

    I need to step in here on this China “cheap products” issue. You get what you pay for and every single time I buy anything made in that country it has to be replaced in 3-6 months. How are we saving?

    If US-made shirts are better, maybe you need to start a company to make them in the US. Or maybe the issue is that Lacoste’s US management has done a crappy job of selecting materials and establishing manufacturing specifications; based on my manufacturing background, that is usually the issue, not the person on the assembly line, who just does what and how she is told with the materials they give to her. The problem is almost always that those who set up the production line, manage the component supply chain, and manage the tech data package have whiffed, usually by chasing bad goals.

    Hex on Aaron Rodgers.

    I’ve noticed that higher paid employees who feel part of the food chain generally (not always) produce better work. But I do agree this is an issue with the manufacturer and the U.S. govt as well. Steve Jobs once remarked to Obama how easy it was to build a factory in China, but nearly impossible to do here because of regulations and costs.

    (As an aside, re: AR -again- you need to start directing that hostility towards Charlotte.)  :))

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  10. Duane Oyen Member
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    Franco:

    Duane Oyen: So the “GOPe” whatever that is (“THEY” to the black helicopter crowd) pushes this incoherent and unrelated set of situations, most of which are virulently opposed by virtually every GOP politician?

    Black helicopter, whatever that is..I only see them in the movies. Thus they don’t exist – just like the GOPe doesn’t exist.

    GOPe deniers: living in a world where abstractions don’t exist since 1964

    Way to avoid substance, Franco.   Again, I repeat- virtually every point on that list is opposed by Republican leadership.

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  11. Duane Oyen Member
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    EThompson:

    Duane Oyen:

    EThompson:

    …………………….

    I’ve noticed that higher paid employees who feel part of the food chain generally (not always) produce better work. But I do agree this is an issue with the manufacturer and the U.S. govt as well. Steve Jobs once remarked to Obama how easy it was to build a factory in China, but nearly impossible to do here because of regulations and costs.

    (As an aside, re: AR -again- you need to start directing that hostility towards Charlotte.) :))

    You are Charlotte’s compatriot in football crime, I figure that you can pass on the points to her.  You are welcome to agree with me, though.  Aaron Rodgers was a nice kid when he came out of college- in addition to his unsavory professional association, he has now rejected what he was taught growing up and embraced Hollywood and its jello-headed starlets.

    I also think that the “better work” point is valid, but it really only meaningfully applies to high value-added activities.  Routine high-volume stuff is based on configuration and process, with process controls and well-designed QA sampling to track quality.  Management determines what hem/seam allowances to dictate, and stitches that unravel  because the hem is too small in order to reduce fabric scrap are not the fault of the piece-worker.

    And I agree (so does lefty Matt Yglesius, BTW) RE the problems with starting a business.

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  12. Duane Oyen Member
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    TKC1101:

    Duane Oyen: So the “GOPe” whatever that is (“THEY” to the black helicopter crowd) pushes this incoherent and unrelated set of situations, most of which are virulently opposed by virtually every GOP politician?

    Most GOP politicians have been bought and paid for on open borders for a very long time. See Bush, McCain, et al.

    Any support for Federalized DOE has led to inferior schools with higher costs, see Common Core.

    The GOP establishment has refused to refute the climate hoax, afraid of offending ‘the holy independents’

    Trade deals which destroy skilled jobs are a GOP specialty.

    And on and on.

    Oh, come on.  If that is the case, Reagan was the most hypocritical establishment person ever, because he did not eliminate the Dept of Education (BTW, DoE is Energy, not Education).

    1. There are moderates RE immigration (guest worker programs make a lot of sense in certain situations, arbitrarily rejecting any kind of amnesty is mindless blathering- how do you pick up the violators?  Where do you send them?), zero for “open borders”, sometimes based on solid analysis, sometimes too sensitive to big bidness donors.  But this is not a slam-dunk by any means.
    2. Jeb is the only candidate who supports Common Core.  This is mostly a fund-raising gimmick for Levin fans.
    3. Show me one candidate who buys the catastrophic anthropogenic global warming hypothesis.
    4. Etc.
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  13. Franco Member
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    Duane Oyen:

    Franco:

    Duane Oyen: So the “GOPe” whatever that is (“THEY” to the black helicopter crowd) pushes this incoherent and unrelated set of situations, most of which are virulently opposed by virtually every GOP politician?

    Black helicopter, whatever that is..I only see them in the movies. Thus they don’t exist – just like the GOPe doesn’t exist.

    GOPe deniers: living in a world where abstractions don’t exist since 1964

    Way to avoid substance, Franco. Again, I repeat- virtually every point on that list is opposed by Republican leadership.

    Really? Do you have evidence for that?

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  14. Ball Diamond Ball Member
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    BrentB67:Didn’t we beat this horse last week?

    No, you moron.  Why do you think Trump is conservative enough to run the country in detail?  Answer the question in the affirmative or you’re Hitler.

    [Editors’ Note: Initially redacted for insulting language, but the Editors now realize that we missed the joke.]

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  15. Mike LaRoche Inactive
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    hammerzeit

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  16. Ball Diamond Ball Member
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    Ist Nicht Fuhr GeFingerPoken.

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  17. Ball Diamond Ball Member
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    Is There a Real Alternative to the Ideas of Trumpism?

    No, silly. There are no ideas in Trumpism. It’s a weapon, not a platform.

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