Go On, Ivan: Cut the Cables

 

Headlining in The New York Times today is the revelation that Russian submarines and spy ships are freaking out our defense officials by nosing about the underseas cables that carry the entire information age:

Russian submarines and spy ships are aggressively operating near the vital undersea cables that carry almost all global Internet communications, raising concerns among some American military and intelligence officials that the Russians might be planning to attack those lines in times of tension or conflict. …

[Commanders and intelligence officials] report that from the North Sea to Northeast Asia and even in waters closer to American shores, they are monitoring significantly increased Russian activity along the known routes of the cables, which carry the lifeblood of global electronic communications and commerce.

This may surprise you, coming from a hawk like me, but I’m all for attacking them. In fact, I’ve long been thinking we should just bomb those cables ourselves. Put the genie back in the bottle. The whole business with global electronic communications has completely gotten out of hand. Bad ideas are spreading faster than good ones. Let ISIS figure out how to spread its own damn propaganda. I’m happy to go back to reading books and never looking at the Internet again.

Bomb the undersea cables, Ivan. With my blessing.

Мы жела́ем тебе́ успе́хов во всех твои́х начина́ниях.

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  1. Kermit Hoffpauir Inactive
    Kermit Hoffpauir
    @KermitHoffpauir

    It wouldn’t hurt my feelings

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  2. PJS Coolidge
    PJS
    @PJS

    It would be okay with me.

    • #2
  3. V the K Member
    V the K
    @VtheK

    I welcome any opportunity for Vladimir Putin to make Obama sputter impotently.

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  4. lesserson Member
    lesserson
    @LesserSonofBarsham

    V the K:I welcome any opportunity for Vladimir Putin to make Obama sputter impotently.

    Might even ruin his golf game…

    • #4
  5. David Carroll Thatcher
    David Carroll
    @DavidCarroll

    The Russians would never interfere with the cables carrying Internet.  It would cut off their hackers from our defense systems.

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  6. CB Toder aka Mama Toad Member
    CB Toder aka Mama Toad
    @CBToderakaMamaToad

    Ummm, isn’t Ricochet kind of internet based? Aren’t you kiboshing the business plan?

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  7. Eric Mawhinney Inactive
    Eric Mawhinney
    @TypicalAnomaly

    Claire,

    You’re wreaking havoc with progressive notions about hawks

    …wrong gender…won’t make money from aggression…living in France…wrong occupation…

    Thanks and thanks and more thanks.

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  8. Claire Berlinski, Ed. Editor
    Claire Berlinski, Ed.
    @Claire

    The moment I posted that, mysteriously, my Internet cut out. It came right back on, but it did make me feel a bit superstitious.

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  9. Austin Murrey Inactive
    Austin Murrey
    @AustinMurrey

    Claire Berlinski, Ed.:The moment I posted that, mysteriously, my Internet cut out. It came right back on, but it did make me feel a bit superstitious.

    Well, it makes sense that the Russians are keeping track of you – an American writer living abroad in Turkey and France is a super cover for a CIA operative and you do seem oddly informed about world affairs.

    Intriguingly, Russia has tried to figure out how to keep their own internet afloat if the Web went offline. So this is quite a bit more concerning with that factoid.

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  10. CB Toder aka Mama Toad Member
    CB Toder aka Mama Toad
    @CBToderakaMamaToad

    Claire Berlinski, Ed.: The moment I posted that, mysteriously, my Internet cut out. It came right back on, but it did make me feel a bit superstitious.

    superstitious or paranoid?

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  11. Claire Berlinski, Ed. Editor
    Claire Berlinski, Ed.
    @Claire

    CB Toder aka Mama Toad:Ummm, isn’t Ricochet kind of internet based? Aren’t you kiboshing the business plan?

    I’d take the hit in exchange for going back to the good old days, wouldn’t you? Besides, it’s American Autarky week here on Ricochet. Let’s entertain the idea fully in all of its implications (before we decide it’s the nuttiest idea we’ve ever heard).

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  12. lesserson Member
    lesserson
    @LesserSonofBarsham

    Claire Berlinski, Ed.:The moment I posted that, mysteriously, my Internet cut out. It came right back on, but it did make me feel a bit superstitious.

    agent smith1

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  13. Claire Berlinski, Ed. Editor
    Claire Berlinski, Ed.
    @Claire

    CB Toder aka Mama Toad:

    Claire Berlinski, Ed.: The moment I posted that, mysteriously, my Internet cut out. It came right back on, but it did make me feel a bit superstitious.

    superstitious or paranoid?

    Superstitious. I know the difference. In Turkey, the state would do things like that — for real — to mess with me, personally. And they still do, even though I’m not there! But I’m just not of any interest to Ivan. So the only way there’s could be a connection is by means of my superstition — my very thought made it happen.

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  14. Sandy Member
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    @Sandy

    Claire Berlinski, Ed.:

    CB Toder aka Mama Toad:Ummm, isn’t Ricochet kind of internet based? Aren’t you kiboshing the business plan?

    I’d take the hit in exchange for going back to the good old days, wouldn’t you? Besides, it’s American Autarky week here on Ricochet. Let’s entertain the idea fully in all of its implications (before we decide it’s the nuttiest idea we’ve ever heard).

    Yes!  We’d need to cut the cord domestically, too, though, no?   But I’d miss you, Claire.

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  15. Western Chauvinist Member
    Western Chauvinist
    @WesternChauvinist

    David Carroll:The Russians would never interfere with the cables carrying Internet. It would cut off their hackers from our defense systems Hillary’s private server.

    FIFY

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  16. Kevin Creighton Contributor
    Kevin Creighton
    @KevinCreighton

    I doubt the Rooskies are going to cut the cords. More likely, they’re doing to us what we did to them all throughout the last Cold War, namely, spying on them via their communications cables.

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  17. Spin Inactive
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    @Spin

    Claire Berlinski, Ed.: I’m happy to go back to reading books and never looking at the Internet again.

    Because your business doesn’t depend on those undersea cables, as does mine and a great many others…

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  18. Spin Inactive
    Spin
    @Spin

    David Carroll:The Russians would never interfere with the cables carrying Internet. It would cut off their hackers from our defense systems.

    This is correct.  Although there are a lot of undersea cables they can use, even if they “bomb” the ones crossing the Pacific.

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  19. Spin Inactive
    Spin
    @Spin

    Here’s a map of the undersea cables

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  20. James Madison Member
    James Madison
    @JamesMadison

    From fretting about the chaos in the newspaper on Friday we moved to isolationism over the weekend and now we are talking about bringing it all down on ourselves?

    Yes, we haven’t given up quite yet. Or have we?

    What is the point of conversation, even in jest or gesture, if it takes us down the rabbit hole of despair? I thought conservatives had better ideas. We can and will work through this.

    Take that despair thing to the paper shredder. This is all deeeep-pressing.

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  21. James Madison Member
    James Madison
    @JamesMadison

    Give me ideas! Lots of them. Ideas to refute, resist and restore.

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  22. James Madison Member
    James Madison
    @JamesMadison

    Развеселить. Дайте нам идеи , товарищ .

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  23. PJS Coolidge
    PJS
    @PJS

    James Madison:Yes, we haven’t given up quite yet.Or have we?

    What is the point of conversation, even in jest or gesture, if it takes us down the rabbit hole of despair?I thought conservatives had better ideas.We can and will work through this.

    Take that despair thing to the paper shredder.This is all deeeep-pressing.

    I look at my nieces and nephews and despair.  A doctor, a lawyer, two small-business owners, an IT guy, all in their 30s and 40s.  All are “Feelin’ the Bern.”  Daughter S is a college student, studying economics, and uses her brain, thank God.  Is the country really going down the socialist path?  It sure looks like it to me.

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  24. James Madison Member
    James Madison
    @JamesMadison

    PJS,

    Get your pain, but I won’t feel it. The Bern is a lesson for them. They won’t like it. We haven’t hit bottom yet. (BTW, what kind of doctor, lawyer and business owner could possibly think Bern is the answer? Answer: Those who are in a pretty foul mood and don’t understand it is not capitalism that is making a hash of things, but those who are trying to pretend we still have capitalism who muck it up and then blame it.)

    But, our lives are still subject to positive change. Reagan followed Johnson and Nixon. It does not get much worse than the Johnson/Nixon duo – unless we are counting Obama.

    The country will grasp it at some point and there will be shifting in attitude. Let’s be ready and help make it happen. And let’s stop shooting at each other (like we see inside the GOP and all that “who is a true or real conservative.”

    • #24
  25. Front Seat Cat Member
    Front Seat Cat
    @FrontSeatCat

    Austin Murrey:

    Claire Berlinski, Ed.:The moment I posted that, mysteriously, my Internet cut out. It came right back on, but it did make me feel a bit superstitious.

    Well, it makes sense that the Russians are keeping track of you – an American writer living abroad in Turkey and France is a super cover for a CIA operative and you do seem oddly informed about world affairs.

    Intriguingly, Russia has tried to figure out how to keep their own internet afloat if the Web went offline. So this is quite a bit more concerning with that factoid.

    I don’t think I would egg on the Bear……I’m with you about going back to reading books, and getting that stuff published about what you wrote about in those 4 articles, letting the world in on their big picture, and putting pressure that way…… since everything is Internet connected including military opps, medical, business, etc. I vote for leaving cables alone…..

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  26. Roadrunner Inactive
    Roadrunner
    @Roadrunner

    We can and should protect our information, communications, trade and still stay out of Syria and not allow Muslim refugees from anywhere.  We can and should also develop capabilities to steal their information, ruin their communications and foul up their trade in case things go bad.  None of that is in Syria.  You have done enough in the Middle East, Claire.

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  27. Great Ghost of Gödel Inactive
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    @GreatGhostofGodel

    Claire Berlinski, Ed.: Мы жела́ем тебе́ успе́хов во всех твои́х начина́ниях.

    I think you meant μολὼν λαβέ.

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  28. Tedley Member
    Tedley
    @Tedley

    Claire, I’m with James Madison and his comment #24. From what I’ve read, things sounded somewhat worse under President Wilson, and definitely worse during the 30s.

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  29. James Madison Member
    James Madison
    @JamesMadison

    Roadrunner,

    We should also screw the Russians up with every trick we have in Syria. Make them bleed.

    We have the same and better tools at our disposal to fight assymmetrical non-warfare. Remember, every Russian bomb that falls makes a Russian enemy for life. Let’s find ’em and use ’em.

    Then, do the same with the “Iraqians” and Talibanians. We have nifty ways to do this, but we are not releasing them. Our ships and Tomahawks are ready to stir stuff up from out of no-where. Mischief is the best way to go.

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  30. Paul Dougherty Member
    Paul Dougherty
    @PaulDougherty

    I sense I would have to resort to subscribing to the New York Times, and watching NBC news at 6:00p, like everyone else. At least we will all be working off the same inaccurate reportage.

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