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I cannot imagine how it is even remotely possible to be an informed healthcare consumer under the current system. With some effort and a helpful provider, one can accumulate useful knowledge about diet and exercise, the effectiveness of various treatments, etc., all of which is well and good. But when it comes to being a consumer in a supposedly capitalist system, one cannot operate as an informed consumer. Throw in government regulation, and all bets are off.
But…but…Obama said if you liked your plan and your doctor you could keep them…
I think BHO meant to say if he likes your plan, you can keep it.
For true! Thus far I’ve avoided having my plan cancelled, but the premium sure has gone up in cost since AHA went into effect.
You can get an o2 monitor that clips on your finger on Amazon for a bout $30 or so. I got one that records for up to 30 hours and can download the data to my laptop. I used it to show my PCP that I didn’t need the oxygen concentrator that a pulmonologist said I needed for my CNS apnea. I still use the CPAP because I sleep more comfortably and don’t snore anymore with it on; but I saved a lot of money not having to rent the concentrator.
It’s all operating as designed. The ACA is supposed to be so painful that after enough time, Americans will clamor for a single payer system to relieve the pain.
I have a 3 year old machine, and you can’t tell its on except when the mask isn’t sealed to my nose.
KP,
Yes exactly. This is the medical through the looking glass madness that most in the medical profession refuse to even acknowledge as a problem. In any other transaction if one of the parties claims they can charge whatever they want to and refuses to set a price even if this is for a fixed known service there really is no contract. There is no meeting of the minds because of the bad faith of one of the parties. In this case it is the health provider who refuses to set a fixed cost for a known service. There is collaborative effort that goes on between the insurance company and the physician. This is really a conspiracy to defraud or would be seen so in almost any other setting.
I had an experience that went even beyond this level of insanity. I was told that different departments had performed services on me at the hospital. When I requested a total bill so I could pay it, I was told that no one kept a total of charges on me and that each individual department would be billing me. I had my lawyer draw up an estoppel letter and sent it to the parent corporation that was responsible for the entire hospital. They simply ignored it. I paid some of the bills that came trailing in over the next few months. They were the most unclear bills I had ever received for anything. A few lines that looked like the one below.
Procedure #1572 $276.00
After I repeatedly tried to contact them to ask for a total bill so I that I could pay them I was simply ignored so I stopped paying anymore bills. After about a year the bills stopped. I felt like I was in the twilight zone. My lawyer had a copy of everything so I was prepared in case there were any repercussions. None ever happened.
This level of insanity is hopeless and useless. The waste of effort and the manipulative inflationary overcharging is just evil. Part of the reform of health care that the Republican Presidential Candidates are proposing should be simple truth in billing for every medical procedure.
Let the informed consumer with his own well funded HSA make his own choices. The price of health care will go down and I would bet dollars to donuts that the quality goes up.
Regards,
Jim
Yeah, for one hospital stay, one of the multiple bills I should have been sent ended up getting sent to South Africa instead. Of course, having paid every hospital bill I received, and receiving no more, I thought I had paid everything….
Little did I know there was another bill… sent to a continent I had never even visited… working its way onto my credit report… eating into my credit rating…
Finally, the woman in South Africa receiving the bill contacted me. She was receiving legal threats over nonpayment by that point. I managed to get the debt canceled and my record expunged. But it was madness. How can a reasonable consumer anticipate that?
Concierge medicine has been mentioned on the thread, but I go to a practice in Vienna, VA that isn’t concierge and bills by times. It consists of a Family Practice doc and an internist or two, as well as a couple nurse practitioners. Unlike concierge, I don’t pay a monthly fee. They bill strictly by time-$400
When you join the practice, you go for a 1/2 hour visit to establish yourself as a patient, after that, the vast majority of your ongoing care can be done by email or phone as needed. Even better, they are fantastic at coordinating care.
The office is calm, house calls are available, and same day appointments are always available.
Here’s a link to their pricing page: http://www.doctalker.com/page.php?id=2
I understand why this won’t work for every specialty, but it’s been a fantastic experience for our family–and it’s a different model of care than the usual or concierge.
I like the five minutes for $33.00. I can talk fast.
That is a very reasonable price.
It makes me wonder why everyone else is charging so much.
At $33 for a five-minute visit, more people would get health care they need. We’d be a healthier country.
It should say something about our healthcare system that the least stressful and most satisfying encounters I’ve had recently were with the VA. Sure, late on a Friday afternoon the whole place had an air of oppression to it, but when a guy on his way home for the weekend took his own time to show me where the lab was just because I’m a veteran and didn’t deserve to be left wandering the labyrinth on my own it showed that I’m something other than a billing number. Or, as Arthur Brooks phrases it, I was treated like an asset to be developed rather than a liability to be managed.
My doctor has videoes on the web-site (I think his son works in editing) and says he wants to do a video with a typical doctor-patient visit and show everyone else who is “in the room” with an agenda…so the insurance company, EMR group, quality standards people, pharmacy benefits managers….
And I said “and that’s why it’s tough to get patient-centered care.”