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You are exactly right. Humans need powerful context for morality. I think we do have an innate sense of right and wrong, but it is easily overpowered by bad incentives and wrong-headed socialization. People really can be socialized to almost anything. This is why we need strong institutions that promote moral behavior, like churches. Our constitution is a document that has worked rather well in promoting moral behavior, but it is being decimated by a variety of different forces that would gut it and undermine it. Right now it feels like the world is about to explode, WWII style. This is a very, very bad feeling. Thanks Obama.
I agree, but I would say rather that the Constitution has made it somewhat more difficult to behave badly than otherwise would have been the case. It is a document that presupposes a certain level of morality. Without a commitment to its principles, i.e., without a fairly strong private morality supported by private institutions, it is nothing.
Optimist.
Not to bring down an otherwise lighthearted discussion of vehicular murder, but consider abortion. When the subject is thrown at Republicans, they always ask about rape/incest or the life of the mother. All too often though the only thing weighed against a human life is ‘the lifestyle to which I’ve become accustomed.’
Gotta wonder if one of the reasons life is so cheap in China is because of their 40-year one-child mandatory abortion policy. When the state’s official position is that inconvenient lives are disposable; how can a nation have any moral compass at all?
I just wanna reiterate comment #3.
Having been there, my observation was that the one child policy means children are treasured and loved in a way hard to reconcile with my year spent teaching inner-city kids.
The problem isn’t that most people don’t think life matters; the problem is that people wealthy enough to afford cars and/or connected to party elites don’t think the rules matter. For all the talk around here about how “we’re no longer a nation of laws,” China truly is a nation that is ruled by men and not law. If you have the money, you can almost always get away with anything, as the article notes. Money for the victim, money for the cops, money for the judge, and it all just goes away …
I often wonder which is more socially destructive; China’s one-child policy, or America’s one-parent policy. I tend to side with the latter.
“The rulers of China have deigned it beneath their notice to make such minor improvements.”
This made me chuckle, ruefully.
Is it realistic to expect China’s rulers “to make such minor improvements” when the leadership is busy with such activities as presiding over a Laogai gulag system that enslaves perhaps millions?
If the rules are not worth obeying, then lives are not worthy of protecting. That is as true here as it is in China. Since you noted that the killing of pedestrians is simpler than trying to keep them alive, then the law is deficient. That is true here with abortion.
In major cities in China, traffic is so different it is hard to describe to an American. A taxi ride can be as “thrilling” as any amusement park ride.
Interestingly enough, even with all the insane traffic I didn’t see any vehicle on vehicle accidents. However, it was common knowledge that vehicle on person accidents happen all the time and that no one stops to help the injured pedestrian.
In the US cars and traffic evolved from their invention, allowing for the development of laws and norms and insurance and the rest. That development never took place in China.
We have only two or three main roadways on the Cape so the intersections can get pretty clogged up. And it’s impossible to describe how I was able to see this whole situation play out from where I was in the lane behind the two vehicles involved, but trust me, I saw this whole thing.
For reasons I have forgotten, there were four lanes of traffic that were practically sitting still at this moment.
A fairly large truck wanted to pass a little car driven by an older woman. So he abruptly decided to try to get past her on her left, to squeeze in between the two lanes in front of me.
To this day, I can’t believe what I saw, but the truck driver sideswiped the poor woman’s entire car with her in it! and then quickly made the left-hand turn he was trying to make. This was a kind of belligerent driving I had never seen before and have never seen since.
I have rarely been as angry in my lifetime. I followed this guy down the street and then drove to the police station.
I told my husband about it later. “Why would this guy have taken off like that? There were a hundred witnesses!”
“Because,” my husband said, “a hit and run in this state is not as bad as failing an alcohol test. He had probably had a drink or two.”
That was my first serious encounter with perverse incentives.
Is the idea of a non-material judge of behaviour even a thing in Confucian culture?
Well, under the Common Law tradition, you can thank the concept of torts. There is an inherent duty to not destroy life, limb or property, even in the absence of statute. One of England’s great gifts to world, even if it is occasionally abused by the contingent fee crowd.
More fundamental than good laws are religious and moral values and convictions. I worry that we easily underestimate the effects of millennia of the Judeo/Christian teaching that the human person is made in the Image and Likeness of God. It’s so familiar and so embedded in our culture and collective psyche that we are apt to think it’s normal human thinking. And then we imagine we don’t need the doctrines or the practice of religion to maintain its truth in our laws and behavior.
A Republic such as ours is predicated on a higher moral authority; our rights are reserved by God, not the State. Your post sheds more light on why communism is an abhorrent ideology. One thing I’ve learned in my 23 years of existence: we ALWAYS worship something. In the case of the Chinese, the State is their moral authority, and their God. It’s perverse, and it’s disgusting.
Absolutely! Other cultures do not value human life because, on the basis of pure empirical observation, a person’s life may or may not actually be more valuable than that of a working animal.
We refuse to accept the evidence provided by our own eyes – the value we place on each person is the foundation stone of Western Civilization.
I had a friend who converted to Catholicism in young adulthood, after have been raised in a chaotic, atheistic household. She said up to the point of her conversion, she had never thought of other people as valuable-in-themselves. “Other people were like an obstacle course.” They might be useful or pleasant or a hindrance to her. That was all she considered. It was a kind of moral blindness.
Amen. It is easy to disregard 2000 years of slowly built up sensibilities and moral refinement. The distance of the past obscures the harsh and inhumane morality that prevailed in the ancient world. The idea of the inherit value and dignity of human life is not a moral given, and for much of history and most of the world it was an alien concept.
There’s some push-back on the original Slate article:
http://m.snopes.com/chinese-drivers-kill-pedestrians/
This story recalls to mind a similar incident from some time ago when I was in Mexico City. Apparently municipal bus drivers had been instructed from some in management that if they hit a pedestrian they needed to “finish the job”, they were informed that it was much simpler to resolve an accident in which the victim was dead as opposed to merely injured.
The whole scandal came to light when one driver attempted to follow this exact procedure after an accident but ended up being mobbed by all his passengers when they realized what he was doing. Perhaps a lesson there about how moral norms are difficult for individuals to sustain in a vacuum but require a community.
It does sound a bit snopesy. I knew a version of this story that had the consequences of an accident in certain US state being so terminal to one’s ability to get car insurance that it was better to “finish the job” and drive off leaving no witnesses.
Confucianism died under Mao. That culture no longer exists in China.