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Well, if you’ve been following the Sad Puppies story,
From the article:
We don’t need exhaust vents. We’ll just sic Qadgop the Mercotan on them.
I’m on the same page as you, Hank. There have been Hugo winners that are outstanding pieces, and there have been books I’ve bought because they won the Hugo for best novel and found them to be simply OK.
Here’s one really cool benefit of being a WorldCon member for a given year that I forgot to mention in the post you linked to. I had mentioned that you get to nominate and vote for the Hugos. Here’s what I forgot to mention. After the nominations are counted up and you’ve got the five finalists in each category, you’re probably thinking to yourself “I’ve only read two of the novels and none of the short stories, novellas, or nevellettes. So I guess I won’t vote in those categories.” Not so fast. For the last several years, the WorldCon has provided to the members all of the short stories, novellas, novelettes, and most novels in electronic format so you can read them all and make an informed vote. You can also see samples of the work of the artists who are nominated.
Yes, it is a shame that some people vote for an author based on ideology rather than the actual quality of the work. In the past I have nominated novels by Robert J. Sawyer and John Scalzi even though I don’t agree with all of their ideological/political viewpoints, because the work deserved it.
Since I finished school I have the time to help be a disruptive influence next year.
Hank, that segue was Lileksian. Never saw it coming.
Meters of neutronium armor. There’s something of an arms race between the various science fiction authors for who can come up with the biggest gun. And then they have to come up with an even bigger one because otherwise there’s no conflict in the story. I just read a John Ringo novel where they were throwing around anti matter hand grenades.
Hank, I didn’t know you were a Schlock Mercenary fan. Two thumbs up. I’ll have to show you the Schlock Mercenary challenge coins I bought at WesterCon.
High praise that.
I’m highly tempted -but I usually have to return to class by then.
I don’t know who won this fight. Napoleon’s entry to Moscow was a disaster because he wanted to govern Moscow. Vox always intended to burn Moscow to the ground, and then salt the earth as he left.
The Leftists kill everything they touch, don’t they?
So now everyone knows that the Hugos were nothing but an avenue for propaganda, and that the Left not only doesn’t believe in democracy, but actively hates it, and works to kill it.
Good work guys.
The Hugos will likely die, as no-one but the SJW will take them seriously any more, and there aren’t enough SJWs to sustain a business.
Good riddance.
Vox is a weird character on the internet – which is saying something, since the internet is basically nothing but a collection of people’s weirdness on full display.
I’ve followed this since SP1 since I love Larry Correia, and it’s been pretty entertaining on a dollar-for-laughs value.
See, salting the earth is exactly the sort of weapon of mass destruction that doesn’t get enough play in modern science fiction. They’re too intent on their gamma ray lasers.
As far as Vox goes, he’s gotta do it again next year. And it’ll be harder, because the SJWs are going to up their organizing game. I’m sure he’d be happy with No Award next year too, but if he doesn’t get on the slate it’s still a loss overall.
Ringo has used antimatter cluster munitions in the Legacy of the Aldanata books. I think it was Hell’s Faire. The Troy-class battlestations from the Troy Rising books were impressive.
David Webber’s Armageddon Inheritance books had some pretty scary stuff left over from the Fourth Empire. Planetoid-class ships, warp rifles, the bio-weapon that destroyed the Fourth Empire, planet-busting gravitonic warheads were all nasty stuff.
But nobody beats Doc Smith for sheer overkill. Primary beam weapons that treated emitters as expendable cartridges to be burned out with one shot. The aforementioned neutronium armor. Planet-sized negaspheres of antimatter. Ringo’s SAPL from the Troy Rising books is a pale imitation of Smith’s sunbeam. Heinlein didn’t invent the concept of powered armor. Smith did.
The thing is, there are still a lot of plain old science fiction fans out there. And Sad Puppies is actively trying to return it to what it was. I wish them luck, but I’m not sanguine.
I stopped caring about the Hugos after Hominids won best novel.
What a steaming load of hipposcat that book is!
Yeah, I’m a big fan of Correia. I read a longish post about guns and gun culture and such, which was well done and spot on the money. I picked up Monster Hunter International off of a free Baen book promotion off the strength of that post. I finished the book, and bought the next three and read those that weekend. It was the first time I spent money on a new book in years.
I don’t think that absent the connection I’d fall on a different side of this issue.
Been reading it daily for over a decade now. At least when Kevyn used an anti-matter grenade they pointed out what a stupid idea the thing was.
There was also the time they nulled the inertia of two planets moving in opposite directions, placed them on either side of a third planet, and then de-nulled the inertia.
I always envision that like one of those thingies on a CEO’s desk.
“Clack”
After Nevil Shute’s On the Beach, there wasn’t much more to be said. That’s what happens when you throw enough cobalt-jacketed bombs. But science fiction writers have been completely blowing up planets since the days of Doc Smith, and will probably continue to do so.
Yeah, the antimatter hand grenade was from a Legacy of the Aldenata book. Still seems like a terrible idea to me. I’m working through the series right now. I can’t seem to get into Cally’s War.
At least in the Armageddon’s inheritance series their anti-matter missiles are still in space. I gotta give David Weber credit though, for the laser warheads in the Honor Harrington series. Project Excalibur is too wonderful an idea to let sit idle.
I read Triplanetary, but I never got ahold of the next book in that series. I’ll grant him precedent in inventing overkill.
I was thinking more in terms of literal salt. Completely irradiating perfectly good planets is a hallmark of classic science fiction.
If you’ve not read the rest of the series, you have no idea what overkill really looks like. ;)
They’re all on Amazon. I’m a big fan, but at this remove, they’re definitely a period piece.
Actually the Qadgop the Mercotan passage was “written” by Smith’s protaganist, Kimball Kinnison working undercover as a science fiction writer. I suspect it was intended as a Bronx cheer to critics who characterized Smith’s books as bad space opera. Sort of like South Park’s Terrance and Phillip.
Webber’s antimatter missiles had an interesting safety feature. Each one contained a warp generator as a fail-safe. If the warhead was about to lose containment for any reason, the generator would kick it (and anything else within several feet) into hyperspace.
But the Fourth Empire’s real ship-killers were the gravitonic warheads. They created what amounted to a miniature, short-lived, black hole at the target. The gravitational forces they created did nasty things to enemy shields. And shields aren’t proof against gravitational/tidal forces.
I believe his stated intent is to no award next year.
He is weird. He is an old school internet flame warrior.
Perfectly willing to state the obvious in the most inflammatory way possible.
Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion. C-beams glittering in the dark near the Tanhauser Gate. So on and so forth. Etc.
He’s nothing compared to the Ravenous Bugblatter Beast of Traal.
Sarah Hoyt is one of the Sad Puppies who will be there in person. I’ll try to get her to come to the Meetup. :D
The Vogons keep a bugblatter beast in a metal box. Qadgop treats neutronium armor like it’s an ice cream cone.
Cool! I haven’t read any of her books yet but I’ve heard a lot of good things about Darkship Thieves, so it’s on my list of books to buy.
I say the Bugblatter Beast remains in the box by choice.
;-)