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Flyover Country #40: Flyover in 2 Emojis or Less
Troy Senik joins the conversation this week to discuss regional gangs, marketplace disruptions, feminist genderphobes, and Ryan’s unhealthy obsession with Greek alternate currency. We also manage to work all of the Ricochet sponsors into an actual conversation about conservative politics. Eat your heart out, Lileks!
We reference a few posts: Richard Fulmer’s Nun Question, here; Canadian Cincinnatus on Uber, here; David Sussman on Gender, here; Jon Gabriel on Hillary’s coolness, here; and Tom Meyer, also discussing Uber, here.
The closing song is Selena Gomez.
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“A measure of grace…” What a perfect description of Peter.
I could’ve ended the podcast with this one, too. It seems that pop music, with which I am only marginally familiar, is not fully on board with the gender-ending feminist model… regardless of what the individual celebrities/musicians/whatever might be tweeting.
Fun podcast. Thanks for the hat tip!
It was a somewhat disturbing post… but great for conversation!
I took an Uber car in Seattle, and the most unpleasant thing about the trip was my driver having to re-route us because hundreds of people were marching in protest down a street along our path.
I have no idea what their cause was, but I’m not sure how delaying me getting to the Mariners game advances it.
#blacklivesmatter… Except Lloyd McClendon, I guess.
All those upper middle class white Seattle hipsters just love to protest things like Ferguson. It’s just so close to their hearts, you know?
My guess at the time was that it had something to do with the minimum wage. My Sikh driver wasn’t very impressed.
It’s “two emojis or fewer” you Philistines.
Hah, yes, that was my initial comment as well… Perhaps we should have used a (sic), but I wanted to stay true to the original tweet.
This makes me think of Amy Winehouse’s “Stronger Than Me”:
I think pop stars are like lots of people, they’re for feminism when it’s beneficial to them and for traditional roles when that’s beneficial. Beyonce performs in front of a giant “Feminism” sign and has a song about how women rule the world. If women rule the world, why is feminism necessary?
… well, Beyonce has never struck me as particularly astute. Sounds more like a cynical bit of marketing than anything else. Interestingly, though, it isn’t that “feminism” sign that most attracts her fans. They’re far more interested in hearing about her relationship w/ her boyfriend, etc… and the songs that appeal to people are ones that confirm, rather than deny, traditional(ish) sex roles.
Yeah, “Put A Ring On It” is about as supportive of women’s traditional privileges as you get. I’m not so sure it is cynical. The girl power rah-rah aspect is very attractive to women, even those who bank on their sex appeal like Beyonce.
Well, that’s what I meant. I actually think the traditional sex-role stuff is sincere. It’s the giant “feminism” sign that I was calling cynical, not, perhaps, because the singer herself is, but because someone in that process thought “this will appeal to people,” even though the actual messages in the songs are unlikely to be played at “code pink” rallies.
It wouldn’t at all be surprising if the managers/handlers of pop stars and celebrities in general cynically push their clients into espousing fashionable political views to spark controversy and sell products. But I think Beyonce and her fans sincerely buy into both feminism and traditionalism though it requires a dose of cognitive dissonance.
That is very likely true. The don’t think about either one enough to note the contradiction. I suppose you also see this a lot with liberal friends who want to be on board with those fashionable views you mentioned, but who end up behaving differently. Reminiscent of what Charles Murray calls “a refusal to preach what you practice.”