It’s all About the Palace

 

presidential-palace-Turkey-3Over the weekend, I wrote this piece about what’s happening in Turkey with my friend and colleague Okan Altiparmak, and published it in politico.eu. As a bonus, for Ricochet members, here’s the extended release — I’ve included the parts that woudn’t fit into their space constraints:
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In Turkey, it’s all about the palace
Erdoğan’s message to Turks: Vote correctly next time!

By CLAIRE BERLINSKI AND OKAN ALTIPARMAK

Don’t forget what’s really at stake for Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdoğan.

On December 17, 2013, the Financial Crimes and Battle Against Criminal Incomes department of the Istanbul Security Directory detained 47 people, including a number of high-level officials. The sons of the minister of the Interior, the minister of Economy, and the minister of Urban Planning were implicated, as was Erdoğan’s own son, Bilal, with all three ministers handing in resignations. The Turkish media was alive with rumors of an imminent second wave of arrests, hinting at the involvement of then-Prime Minister Erdoğan’s other son, Burak, and Saudi al-Qaeda affiliates.

The Justice and Development Party, or AKP, responded as any normal party in a healthy and vibrant democracy would: it arrested the prosecutors. It purged the police force, sacked dozens of police chiefs, and arrested the journalists who reported the story. Erdoğan is accustomed to winning. Since the 2002 general election that brought his AKP to power, he has defeated rival after rival, imprisoned military officer after military officer, prosecuted journalist after journalist, tear-gassed protest after protest; and — most importantly — won election after election. Turks have come to refer to Erdoğan and his entourage as the Palace, in reference to the spectacularly garish $615 million palace he’s constructed for himself on the outskirts of Ankara. Whether it is equipped with golden toilets is unclear; deep reporting on the matter has been discouraged, given that Erdoğan filed suit against the leader of the opposition Republican People’s Party (CHP) party for suggesting so. He was, he thunderously intoned, executing the People’s Will. To object to these practices was to object to democracy itself.

In June, Erdoğan asked the afore-mentioned People to show their will and send 400 of his party’s candidates to Parliament, enabling him to change the Constitution and arrogate to himself the powers of an “enhanced Presidency.” This would presumably have eliminated the last pretence of a separation of powers in Turkey. But to his shock, the people displayed a will of their own.

“I said ‘Either peace or chaos,’ and the people have elected chaos” —Erdoğan advisor Burhan Kuzu.

Not only did the party fail to win those seats, it lost its parliamentary majority for the first time since 2002. This was owed to a perverse and anti-democratic quirk of the Turkish Constitution put in place in the wake of the 1980 coup, in part to ensure that no party representing Turkey’s Kurds could ever enter Parliament: a 10-percent election threshold. The Peoples’ Democratic Party (HDP) now claims to be a national party, but arose from the Kurdish nationalist movement.

The HDP’s candidates had previously run as independents to bypass the election threshold, but this time took a huge gamble and won: they ran together, and in doing so united Turkey’s Kurds. These Kurds have not always been politically united. Among them are those who support the PKK, the banned organization founded by Abdullah Öcalan and formally designated a terrorist group in Turkey, the United States and Europe.

Conservative, devout

If the word has any meaning, the designation is correct: the PKK targeted civilians and employed suicide bombers before anyone in the West had heard of such a practice. Öcalan was captured and sentenced to death in 1999; his sentence was commuted to aggravated life imprisonment when Turkey, under a coalition government led by Bülent Ecevit, abolished the death penalty as part of its bid to be admitted the European Union.

Öcalan has since been imprisoned in isolation on İmralı island, in the Marmara Sea. But it is not true — by any means — that all of Turkey’s Kurds support the PKK. Until recently, the AKP had managed to score its massive electoral victories with the assistance of Kurds who are, it is often said, “socially conservative,” but this does not mean quite what it does in the West. It means Islamically devout. Exhausted by a Turkish-PKK civil war that had claimed 40,000 lives and internally displaced as many as two million people, many Kurds and Turks eagerly grasped Erdoğan’s idea of a “peace process.” The West grasped it even more eagerly, although it asked few questions about whether democratic transformations that might satisfy Kurdish aspirations — or Turkish ones, for that matter — were truly happening.

What occurred, certainly, was a lull in the violence. But this perhaps had less to do with the “peace talks” than it did the geopolitics: in 2002, the PKK was cornered and exhausted, pressed from all sides by the U.S. in Iraq, Turkey, Iran, the Kurdistan Regional Government of Iraq, Syrian President Bashar al-Assad, and an EU that saw itself as an expanding and buoyant engine of democratization, with Turkey part of the project.

The eventual emergence of the HDP, which shares grassroots with the PKK but does not endorse violence, should in principle have thrilled any advocate of a peace process, for this is precisely the goal of such processes: to persuade those who seek to achieve their political goals by force to lay down their arms and pursue them through democratic means. The HDP managed to unite Turkey’s Kurds politically, in part because their co-leader, Selahattin Demirtaş, ran a flawless campaign marked by temperate, liberal rhetoric. But the HDP’s success came in larger part because Kurds were outraged that the AKP had not only failed to support Kurds in Syria struggling to save themselves from ISIS’s genocidal depredations, but seemed to be cooperating with ISIS.

In June 2014, 46 Turkish diplomats were kidnapped when ISIS stormed the Turkish embassy in Mosul. They were released largely unharmed three months later. Turkish Prime Minister Ahmet Davutoğlu said there had been no special forces involved. Instead, the country’s intelligence agency, MiT, had used its “own methods,” and that “our citizens were handed over to us and we brought them back to our country.”

[My note: There are numerous allegations of a clandestine relationship between Turkey and the ISIS. For example, according a report in The Guardian on July 26 by Martin Chulov, “In the wake of the raid that killed Abu Sayyaf, suspicions of an undeclared alliance have hardened. One senior western official familiar with the intelligence gathered at the slain leader’s compound said that direct dealings between Turkish officials and ranking Isis members was now ‘undeniable.’ ‘There are hundreds of flash drives and documents that were seized there,’ the official told the Observer. ‘They are being analysed at the moment, but the links are already so clear that they could end up having profound policy implications for the relationship between us and Ankara.'”]

The killings

Turkey meanwhile refused to join U.S. plans for airstrikes against ISIS and refused to give coalition planes access to its airbases. Its border became known as the Jihadi Express, given the ease with which foreign fighters seemed to slip through it to join the Caliphate and slip back to propagandize openly in Turkey — even as Erdoğan’s every other enemy was thrown in the slammer. It is not hard to understand why Kurds, as well as quite a few ethnic Turks who saw the HDP as the best hope for blocking an Erdoğan sultanate, threw their weight behind the HDP.

In doing so, they for the first time put a serious obstacle in Erdoğan’s path to total power. The loss of the AKP’s majority in parliament put Erdoğan in a jam. He’s aware that international opinion of him has dimmed greatly, particularly since the brutal suppression of the May 2013 Gezi Park protests. He’s facing the prospect of prosecution at home should the corruption investigations proceed — as demanded by the opposition parties — and perhaps even prosecution abroad, given rumors that the International Criminal Court has agreed to give consideration to charges that the Turkish government delivered weapons to ISIS. By Turkish law, if no coalition is formed before August 23, snap elections must be held — a “re-run,” as Erdoğan has termed it. So he has until then to correct the Peoples’ Will.

As the Turkish economist Emre Deliveli has pointed out, data from 2007-2015 shows, quite strikingly, that support for the AKP rises after episodes of political violence. So if you look at it from Erdoğan’s perspective — it’s all about the Palace — Demirtaş has to go. The easiest way to ensure that is to fracture the Kurdish vote: make sure Kurds grasp they must choose between Demirtaş and chaos. Smear the HDP with charges that they and the PKK are one. Whip up nationalist rage (it is not hard to do, in Turkey). That may help recoup the 2.5 to 3 percent of the vote the AKP lost to the nationalist MHP on June 7 as well.

On July 20, a ghastly suicide bombing in the border town of Suruç killed 32 young Turkish citizens. The murderer was reportedly an ethnic Kurd with suspected ISIS ties. In the early morning of July 22, less-noted in the Western media, two Turkish police officers in the Syrian border town of Ceylanpınar were found dead in their home, shot in the head. The PKK quickly claimed responsibility: According to the press office of the HPG (the PKK’s military wing), “We targeted them because they were cooperating with ISIS operatives in the Kurdish region.” On July 23, a Turkish petty officer was killed by fire from across the Syrian border; the often unreliable state media agency, Anadolu Agency, claimed he had been shot by an ISIS militant from Egypt.

The Suruç attack has since been the focus of the West’s media – not the PKK’s claimed revenge attack. But this is definitely not true of Erdoğan’s media.

Turkish F16s immediately began taking off from Diyarbakır, in southeast Turkey. Western press outlets announced in thrilled tones that Turkey had finally declared war on ISIS and repeated Obama administration officials’ declaration that this was a “game changer.” It was immediately revealed that Turkey had agreed to grant the coalition access to Incirlik airbase. But those F16s were not, as widely reported, “pounding ISIS.” They were pounding the Qandil Mountains in the KRG of Iraq, which the PKK has long used as a stronghold. The southeast of Turkey is now in flames, plunged into seething civil disorder by the airstrikes on the Kurds, which have reportedly struck at least one village full of civilians.

Local reports from scores of villages have been appalling: attacks on government installations, destruction of official vehicles and equipment by masked men, an unclear but obviously rapidly-rising death toll, conscript Turkish soldiers killed, policemen ambushed, and limitless reports by the government of “operations” and “terrorists killed.” Turkey has been “rounding up terrorists in mass waves,” as widely reported, but the great majority of them have been charged as PKK or leftist terrorists, not ISIS terrorists.

[My note: The Kerkuk to Iskenderum pipeline was blown up by so far unidentified assailants in Şırnak province, 18 km north of the border with Iraq. It’s the main export route for Iraqi crude oil. In Erzerum, a nationalist stronghold in the east, police prevented a mob from lynching a group of 200 Kurdish construction workers. The death toll from terrorist violence in southeastern Turkey and (to a lesser extent) in left-leaning Alevi districts of Istanbul continues to rise, with PKK attacks on soldiers and gendarmes. Last Tuesday, a gendarme commander in Malazgirt died from wounds sustained in an attack. Funerals of murdered soldiers are taking place across western Turkey, making détente between the Turkish majority and the Kurdish movement increasingly improbable: Each death means a televised funeral in the dead man’s home town, with weeping relatives surrounding the coffin. This could even lead to communal clashes between ethnic Turks and the large numbers of recent Kurdish migrants to Western cities. Turks have been warned by the authorities to be prepared for terrorist attacks in Istanbul and other metropolitan cities.

There are some reports that ISIS suspects are treated better than arrested leftists or suspected PKK members. Hürriyet published a photograph of an ISIS suspect being held without handcuffs – while a member of the Socialist Youth Association, the legal body that was the target of the 32 murders at Suruç, was held in handcuffs. Bülent Arınç, acting deputy chairman, told the National Assembly last week that 1,305 people had been detained, of whom 847 were Kurds. Only 137 were thought to be from ISIS. The rest are various socialist and far-left groups. So that anti-ISIS story that got the West so excited was, at best, an exaggeration.]

Before the election, Erdoğan had put the matter plainly to the electorate: “You give me 400 MPs and let this matter be resolved peacefully.” After the election, his advisor, Burhan Kuzu, made things even plainer when he tweeted: “Yes, the election is over. The people have decided. I said ‘Either peace or chaos,’ and the people have elected chaos. May it bring happiness.” Now the AKP is delivering chaos, with the witting or unwitting help of the PKK.

The PKK, it should be noted, has as much of an incentive to destroy Demirtaş as Erdoğan does: of what use are they if a legitimately-elected politician can successfully represent Kurdish interests in the Turkish parliament?

Live in hell

On June 29, as the violence mounted, the acting deputy prime minister responsible for the peace process, Yalçın Akdoğan, offered incoherent but menacing remarks to the state-run Anadolu Agency. The HDP, he said, had sabotaged the peace process through the “greed” of trying to overcome the 10 percent election barrier and achieve representation in parliament. They were, he said, “a tool” to topple the government. (He intended this as a slur. Roll that understanding of parliamentary democracy around in your mind.) He accused the party of “extreme and inflammatory” behavior: particularly offensive, he said, was Demirtaş telling Erdoğan, in March, “We will never allow you to be elected as [executive] president. That really did it.” He intimated that Öcalan was on Erdoğan’s side. “They say Öcalan is against the presidential system, that Öcalan is against the AKP. These are totally lies. … If Öcalan ever catches them, he would chase them with a stick.” He seemed to be suggesting the AKP could control the PKK and bring calm to the Southeast.

The implicit message throughout to Kurds — and Turks, for that matter —has been as blunt as this: “Vote correctly the next time, or you shall have no peace and you shall live in hell.”

[My note: There has been a return to the larger, old style PKK ambushes: three gendarmes were killed by terrorists using long range rifles in  Şırnak province in the Tigrıs basin in the far south east. There was also an attempt to blow up the Ankara-Teheran train with a mine in Bingol province. The government last week said that 190 PKK members had been killed in the course of 30 airstrikes. The Kurdish news agency, DIHA (Dicle), reported a number of deaths of children and boys in three or four cities, but given no overall figure. The pro-Kurdish, left-leaning IHD (Human Rights Association) said that 41 people had been killed in one week. There is a risk that the PKK may become much harder to control as a result of these strikes, with decisions passing to cells and groups on the ground and central co-ordination sharply reduced.]

[It] is not at all clear that AKP can control what’s been unleashed after a new election, even if Erdoğan believes so: if the atrocities keep mounting, no one will be able to control things. As many as six million Kurds in Turkey voted for a peace party on June 7. Instead, they got war – with the apparent blessing of the United States, which gave the impression that Obama had cut a cynical, Machiavellian deal at their expense.

Turkey has not joined the fight against ISIS so far in any meaningful way.

“Turks retaliated with strikes against the PKK for strikes that they suffered as a result of PKK violence,” said State Department spokesman John Kirby. “The Turks have a right to defend themselves against it.”

[My note: Obama meanwhile toured Kenya, putting the case for gay rights to Africans. He came out in favor of anti-corruption trials — but he was talking about Kenya.]

Demirtaş has been begging for the resumption of peace talks, while Davutoğlu has been blaring that “We are all ready to sacrifice our sons.” So how easy will it be after this to convince Kurds that non-violence and democracy work?

[My note: Last Wednesday the National Assembly voted against holding a parliamentary investigation into recent terrorist attacks such as the bombing at Suruç. HDP and CHP speakers pleaded the case for stopping the conflict and resuming dialogue. The MHP argued for continued strikes against Turkey’s enemies, beginning from the Battle of Manzikert n 1071 and apparently identifying the PKK with the Greeks. The motion was rejected when the 258 AKP MPs and the 80 MHP members combined to reject it. In what normal democracy to parliamentarians vote against investigating terrorist attacks that have touched off a war?]

And what are they to make of it when EU foreign policy chief Federica Mogherini tweets; “Just called @hdpdemirtas, condemning PKK terrorist acts: keep working for the peace process”? As one well-informed and despairing observer in Turkey put it: “Not to mince words, this is about the stupidest thing I can recall any politician anywhere saying in public in my lifetime.”

[My note: Mogherini seemed unaware that not only does the HDP not control the PKK, but that the HDP has itself been the victim of numerous terrorist attacks to its offices and election buses. Demirtaş narrowly avoided injury in an explosion on June 5 at his election rally. The bombs were planted by a suspected IS operative released from police surveillance a day before. Demirtaş’ campaign bus driver was burnt alive on June 3. He has nonethless consistently appealed for peace, calm, and ethnic reconciliation ever since then. He continues to stress that he is a humanitarian and law-abiding citizen, saying, for example, “If I were sure there wouldn’t be provocation, I would’ve gone to the policemen’s funerals. How do their mothers differ from mine?”

Meanwhile, more than a thousand policemen in Ankara crushed a demonstration for peace by a group of an estimated one thousand young people, arresting many. Peace demonstrations planned for the prior Sunday in Istanbul were cancelled by the governor. The HDP appealed to its followers not to take part in any demonstrations: “We are not going to let you start a war, Mr Acting Prime Minister,” they said. And the government launched a new prosecution of 81 Gezi Park demonstrators from the summer of 2013.]

As NATO countries prepared to meet to consider Turkey’s application for support, Erdoğan formally announced the end of the peace process with the Kurds. No new rights would be granted to any of Turkey’s 78 million citizens, he said. Any. The government opened a criminal prosecution of the parliamentary leadership of the HDP.

[My note: Reports coming out of the Turkish chief prosecutor’s office now indicate they plan to charge the HDP leader with “inciting one group of the population against another” and will seek a 24-year sentence. In a separate move, AKP and MHP deputies have demanded prosecutions and the lifting of immunities of nine other recently-elected parliamentarians, inclduding, most astonishingly, the head of the main-opposition CHP, Kemal Kılıçdaroğlu.]

The AKP’s press is now drowning Turks in utter insanity like this:

When the deep reaction is mobilized, the owners of those headquarters which administer terrorism today could be forced to wear a skirt and dance in the middle of Taksim Square, and be exposed to the country. Because their malevolent plans will explode in their faces.

Does the West even remember how many people Erdoğan arrested in the so-called Ergenekon trial, proudly announcing that he was ridding Turkey of the “deep reaction?” And how it applauded this? As of now, neither Turkey nor the U.S. seems to have agreed to anything beyond opening Incirlik. The rules of engagement and the scope of the mission remain undefined. So why did we cheerfully announce this agreement when we did? Let no one tell you that the way Erdoğan has made use of our diplomatic support was unpredictable. It was not.

Turkey has not joined the fight against ISIS so far in any meaningful way. No one seems to agree what kind of agreement was negotiated or even with whom (Turkey is, after all, under a caretaker government). Thus far, no coalition aircraft have flown out of Incirlik.

[My note: See update, below. Incirlik is a NATO base. There are normally lots of US, British and French forces there. If the US thought this deal was coming up, why didn’t they prepare before announcing it? The slow timing is a massive advantage to the other side, which is known for moving fast. It can now make preparations. Suppose the deal breaks down, or turns out to permit only a trickle of operations that can be stopped at any time? In the meantime, the authorities in Turkey will have been able to strike northern Iraq from the air, put large swaths of the Turkish southeast under de facto martial law, and lock their opponents up — all before the “re-run” election. “The Obama administration would not look very smart,” as one Turkey-based observer put it to me, understatedly.]

Why did the United States announce or confirm this agreement if it wasn’t yet ready to use that base? What possible strategic purpose would it serve? To better advise ISIS of the coalition’s military plans? Given that 56 “highly vetted” U.S.-trained rebels were just despatched into Syria immediately and predictably to be kidnapped and some executed by al Nusra – the al Qaeda affiliate about which Turkish officials are still publicly enthusiastic – it is hard to refrain from the uncharitable suspicion that the timing of the announcement was motivated by no strategic logic whatsoever. The announcement was about Turkey’s domestic politics – and those of the United States.

Erdoğan was aware that international opinion of him had become growingly negative. Easily dealt with: Incirlik’s all yours, and we’re all in. Upon the announcement that Turkey had “entered the fight against ISIS,” Obama, Jean-Claude Juncker, Mogherini, British Prime Minister James Cameron, UN Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon and the Western media lined up to offer moist congratulations, for at last, the mighty Turks would show ISIS what it means to anger NATO.

But as of now, it’s not ISIS that’s done for – it’s Turkish democracy.

If coalition forces begin flying out of Incirlik in numbers sufficient to “change the game” against ISIS — isn’t 12 days rather a long time for planes to get to a NATO base? — perhaps it will have been worth it. But he who sups with the devil should have a long spoon, and there is good reason to fear the one we have used is not nearly long enough.

Update:  A Pentagon spokesman has said that military officials launched armed drones from Incirlik air base in southern Turkey over the weekend. “At this point, no actual strikes have been conducted, but they have begun flying armed,” the Washington Post reported Monday night.

[My note: I filed the story on Sunday. This update does not strike me as the kind of change in which we may repose our hope, but I pray I am wrong.]

Claire Berlinski is a Manhattan Institute Scholar and a Senior Fellow for Turkey of the American Foreign Policy Council now based in Paris. Okan Altiparmak is an advisor on U.S.-Turkish relations and an independent filmmaker based in Istanbul.

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  1. jetstream Inactive
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    @jetstream

    Thanks Claire, I always appreciate your writing and the education. I just continuously relearn the truth of ignorance is bliss, I really need to get over the bliss thing.

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  2. genferei Member
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    @genferei

    DAVID Cameron.

    As I sit here in Beirut marveling over my marveling at the sight of churches and mosques side-by-side in the Middle East (why should it be marvelous?) it is hard to read this and not despair.

    But many thanks for writing it!

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  3. jpark Member
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    @jpark

    This is up over at the Wall Street Journal:
    U.S., Turkey Aim to Rein in Kurds

    The U.S. and Turkey have reached an understanding meant to assure the Ankara government that plans to drive Islamic State from a safe zone in northern Syria won’t clear the way for Kurdish fighters to move in. 55

    It’s behind the paywall, but in the fight against ISIS, the Kurds are a target of opportunity.

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  4. Bryan G. Stephens Thatcher
    Bryan G. Stephens
    @BryanGStephens

    All your questions as to “Why” did the US do this or that, is answered simply that Obama is part of the global elite for whom the little people mean nothing.

    The movie Kingsman was spot on on how the world is organized, with an elite that is interested in their perks, at the expense of the little people.

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  5. Percival Thatcher
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    @Percival

    It came out at Admiral Richardson’s confirmation hearing for Chief of Naval Operations before the Senate on July 30 that there will be a 2 month gap in the presence of a U.S. aircraft carrier in the Persian Gulf when the Theodore Roosevelt departs this fall.

    Announcing that we’re going to be able to utilize Incirlik might be an effort to not look as hapless as this makes us.

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  6. John Hendrix Thatcher
    John Hendrix
    @JohnHendrix

    Excellent post, Claire.  Richly detailed material. Superb analysis.

    Thank you.

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  7. John Hendrix Thatcher
    John Hendrix
    @JohnHendrix

    Claire Berlinski, Ed.: In the meantime, the authorities in Turkey will have been able to strike northern Iraq from the air, put large swaths of the Turkish southeast under de facto martial law, and lock their opponents up — all before the “re-run” election. “The Obama administration would not look very smart,” as one Turkey-based observer put it to me, understatedly.

    Yeah, we’re used to the Obama administration “not look[ing] very smart”; it isn’t unusual.

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  8. Valiuth Inactive
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    @Valiuth

    Poor Turks they got themselves in a down right mess. If AKP manages to win or steal the second round of elections do you think the violence will escalate or will everyone’s will just be crushed by then? A second possibility is that the AKP loses the second round as well, if that happens do they just refuse to give up power and shoot everyone?

    Basically I’m asking if it is now too late for Turkey to come out of this in anyway that seems okay, because after reading your piece I now think the options are civil war or brutal naked dictatorship, followed by civil war.

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  9. Jules PA Member
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    @JulesPA

    Thanks for so clearly explaining this very frightening and sad situation.

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  10. Claire Berlinski, Ed. Editor
    Claire Berlinski, Ed.
    @Claire

    genferei:DAVID Cameron.

    As I sit here in Beirut marveling over my marveling at the sight of churches and mosques side-by-side in the Middle East (why should it be marvelous?) it is hard to read this and not despair.

    But many thanks for writing it!

    Oh, God. That was the idiot editor. I didn’t notice it. Wasn’t me.

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  11. MarciN Member
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    Claire Berlinski, Ed.: Turks have come to refer to Erdoğan and his entourage as the Palace,

    How can we help the citizens of Turkey when we have our own “Palace” here?

    Obama-Clinton-Kerry have been a triumvirate disaster for the entire world. I’m not sure how this story will end, but at least when historians look back at this era with curiosity, they will be able to read Claire Berlinski’s articles. But even with that, they will never understand how such an advanced nation could have put them in power.

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  12. lesserson Member
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    @LesserSonofBarsham

    Thank you Claire. This is the kind of stuff that puts Ricochet over the top for me.

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  13. Claire Berlinski, Ed. Editor
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    @Claire

    Percival:It came out at Admiral Richardson’s confirmation hearing for Chief of Naval Operations before the Senate on July 30 that there will be a 2 month gap in the presence of a U.S. aircraft carrier in the Persian Gulf when the Theodore Roosevelt departs this fall.

    Announcing that we’re going to be able to utilize Incirlik might be an effort to not look as hapless as this makes us.

    I noticed that and was thinking the same thing.

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  14. James Gawron Thatcher
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    Claire,

    First, the article is very impressive and as complete a job as is possible in the news format. A really strong effort from the best we have.

    Second, the only point I might add is a small detail but does not change anything in your view of Turkish politics. The infrastructure at the air base to support a massive campaign (on the assumption that is our intent) does take some time. I have talked about flying A10s to an airfield quickly only to deter an immanent panzer invasion by Putin. It might not be enough to stop him but it could cost him dearly. This could be enough to psychologically deter Putin for a short time and that was all I meant. A sustained effort requires some logistical build up time.

    Third, back to your analysis. This administration seems to have such an, if CoC will excuse me, ass-backward mentality when it comes to judging foreign political situations. From reset with the Russians to blindly trusting the Chinese, to destroying Qaddafi for no reason, to helping the Muslim Brotherhood take over Egypt, this administration has its head up its @#$.

    The Turks have something going that isn’t business as usual and lets rubber stamp the President for Life. We talk and talk about democracy but when the opportunity in Iran in 2009 and now in Turkey in 2015 presents itself we are totally tone deaf.

    Thanks Claire for the stellar performance. Got to keep trying.

    Regards,

    Jim

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  15. Kozak Member
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    Claire Berlinski, Ed.: If coalition forces begin flying out of Incirlik in numbers sufficient to “change the game” against ISIS — isn’t 12 days rather a long time for planes to get to a NATO base? — perhaps it will have been worth it. But he who sups with the devil should have a long spoon, and there is good reason to fear the one we have used is not nearly long enough.

    As a former USAF officer, I can guarantee you that given the orders the USAF would be able to deploy a number of fighter and attack squadrons within 72 hours max.  I was part of a unit that was to deploy to the ME with 24 hours notification.

    The Obama administration as usual is relegated to “leading from behind”.   In this case they are being led by the nose by a neo Ottoman whose only goal is to destroy his domestic opposition.  Meanwhile if Dear Leader gets a few favorable headlines in the US and International press, it’s Mission Accomplished for the Administration.  Actual events on the ground are merely background noise.

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  16. Kozak Member
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    Percival: It came out at Admiral Richardson’s confirmation hearing for Chief of Naval Operations before the Senate on July 30 that there will be a 2 month gap in the presence of a U.S. aircraft carrier in the Persian Gulf when the Theodore Roosevelt departs this fall.

    Well I’m glad I will be exiting the area ahead of that wonderful news.   An awful lot can happen in 2 months.

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  17. Doug Watt Moderator
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    @DougWatt

    Erdogan and his government have been buying oil from ISIS. Turkey is not going to do anything about ISIS.

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  18. James Gawron Thatcher
    James Gawron
    @JamesGawron

    Kozak:

    Claire Berlinski, Ed.: If coalition forces begin flying out of Incirlik in numbers sufficient to “change the game” against ISIS — isn’t 12 days rather a long time for planes to get to a NATO base? — perhaps it will have been worth it. But he who sups with the devil should have a long spoon, and there is good reason to fear the one we have used is not nearly long enough.

    As a former USAF officer, I can guarantee you that given the orders the USAF would be able to deploy a number of fighter and attack squadrons within 72 hours max. I was part of a unit that was to deploy to the ME with 24 hours notification.

    The Obama administration as usual is relegated to “leading from behind”. In this case they are being led by the nose by a neo Ottoman whose only goal is to destroy his domestic opposition. Meanwhile if Dear Leader gets a few favorable headlines in the US and International press, it’s Mission Accomplished for the Administration. Actual events on the ground are merely background noise.

    Kozak,

    I am not trying make an excuse for Erdogan in any way. If the Administration is in collusion with him and really doing nothing then let them be judged so. My point is only not to be confused between a response and a build up. A quick deployment like you are describing is a response to an immediate conventional weapons threat. I presume if this whole thing isn’t nonsense that we would be contemplating a huge build-up for a sustained long campaign using weapons most suited to support the ground effort.

    If Claire is correct they are contemplating nothing but more PR and screwing up Turkey doing it.

    Regards,

    Jim

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  19. Claire Berlinski, Ed. Editor
    Claire Berlinski, Ed.
    @Claire

    Kozak: As a former USAF officer, I can guarantee you that given the orders the USAF would be able to deploy a number of fighter and attack squadrons within 72 hours max.  I was part of a unit that was to deploy to the ME with 24 hours notification.

    As a non-former USAF officer, but as someone who’s spent the past 13 days studying every bit of open source Air Force doctrine she can get her hands on to try to figure out whether there’s any way this could make sense, I came to this answer:

    1) Only if you’re planning something truly “game-changing,” and

    2) If so, no one in his right mind would announce it in advance; and

    3) We’ve already got the whole 39th ABW at Incirlik — if the coalition is unable to deploy fighter and attack aircraft there within 72 hours (I would have said “15 minutes,” given the Sovereign Bases in Cyprus), then we are dangerously overstretched and unprepared.

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  20. Claire Berlinski, Ed. Editor
    Claire Berlinski, Ed.
    @Claire

    genferei:DAVID Cameron.

    As I sit here in Beirut marveling over my marveling at the sight of churches and mosques side-by-side in the Middle East (why should it be marvelous?) it is hard to read this and not despair.

    But many thanks for writing it!

    They corrected it, pleading “a computer glitch.”

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  21. Kozak Member
    Kozak
    @Kozak

    Claire Berlinski, Ed.: As a non-former USAF officer, but as someone who’s spent the past 13 days studying every bit of open source Air Force doctrine she can get her hands on to try to figure out whether there’s any way this could make sense, I came to this answer: 1) Only if you’re planning something truly “game-changing,” and 2) If so, no one in his right mind would announce it in advance; and 3) We’ve already got the whole 39th ABW at Incirlik – if the coalition is unable to deploy fighter and attack aircraft there within 72 hours (I would have said “15 minutes,” given the Sovereign Bases in Cyprus), then we are dangerously overstretched and unprepared.

    1. I doubt the clowns in charge would do anything except a PR stunt.

    2. Absolutely

    3. We may be getting there. Our combat strength is getting thin.  The Cluster with the new F35 is taking a toll.

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  22. jetstream Inactive
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    @jetstream

    Kozak:

    Claire Berlinski, Ed.: As a non-former USAF officer, but as someone who’s spent the past 13 days studying every bit of open source Air Force doctrine she can get her hands on to try to figure out whether there’s any way this could make sense, I came to this answer: 1) Only if you’re planning something truly “game-changing,” and 2) If so, no one in his right mind would announce it in advance; and 3) We’ve already got the whole 39th ABW at Incirlik – if the coalition is unable to deploy fighter and attack aircraft there within 72 hours (I would have said “15 minutes,” given the Sovereign Bases in Cyprus), then we are dangerously overstretched and unprepared.

    1. I doubt the clowns in charge would do anything except a PR stunt.

    2. Absolutely

    3. We may be getting there. Our combat strength is getting thin. The Cluster with the new F35 is taking a toll.

    The Rise and Fall of the Swiss Army knife as strategic weapon .. happens at least once every generation.

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  23. Kozak Member
    Kozak
    @Kozak

    jetstream:

    Kozak:

    Claire Berlinski, Ed.: As a non-former USAF officer, but as someone who’s spent the past 13 days studying every bit of open source Air Force doctrine she can get her hands on to try to figure out whether there’s any way this could make sense, I came to this answer: 1) Only if you’re planning something truly “game-changing,” and 2) If so, no one in his right mind would announce it in advance; and 3) We’ve already got the whole 39th ABW at Incirlik – if the coalition is unable to deploy fighter and attack aircraft there within 72 hours (I would have said “15 minutes,” given the Sovereign Bases in Cyprus), then we are dangerously overstretched and unprepared.

    1. I doubt the clowns in charge would do anything except a PR stunt.

    2. Absolutely

    3. We may be getting there. Our combat strength is getting thin. The Cluster with the new F35 is taking a toll.

    The Rise and Fall of the Swiss Army knife as strategic weapon .. happens at least once every generation.

    F-111s at Red Flag

    McNamara’s version. ( Eventually it was a pretty good bomber and EW platform)

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