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imageSome members of Congress say that IRS Commissioner John Koskinen should resign or be impeached. Under the gentlemanly standards of Marquess of Queensbury rules, a case can be made for that.

But what about Saul Alinsky rules? Why don’t we let him stay in office and make him the face of the Democratic Party? We can even tie him to Hillary: “Clinton’s capital gains tax will make John Koskinen very happy!” To top it off, he’s a middle-aged, white male. And, while we’re at it, why don’t we do something similar with Planned Parenthood?

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  1. Rightfromthestart Coolidge

    Exactly , there are a million ads that can be made if we had an opposition party , how about DHS Director Jeh Johnson when asked about Kate Steinle replying ‘Who?’

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    • July 28, 2015, at 6:16 PM PDT
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  2. BastiatJunior Member
    BastiatJunior

    Rightfromthestart:Exactly , there are a million ads that can be made if we had an opposition party , how about DHS DirectorJeh Johnson when asked about Kate Steinle replying ‘Who?’

    That, too.

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    • July 28, 2015, at 8:23 PM PDT
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  3. Tom Meyer, Common Citizen Contributor

    BastiatJunior: But what about Saul Alinsky rules? Why don’t we let him stay in office and make him the face of the Democratic Party? We can even tie him to Hillary: “Clinton’s capital gains tax will make John Koskinen very happy!” To top it off, he’s a middle-aged, white male. And, while we’re at it, why don’t we do something similar with Planned Parenthood?

    That seems acceptably dirty to me. :)

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    • July 30, 2015, at 9:12 AM PDT
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  4. Pilli Inactive

    How can we tie in the complicit media, too?

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    • July 30, 2015, at 9:14 AM PDT
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  5. Podkayne of Israel Member

    When we were little, sometimes our Dad would amuse us by chasing us around the house. One memorable evening he caught my sister, and as we all giggled hysterically, he held her over the garbage disposal and turned it on.

    “Whaddya say, Andy?” he asked my brother, “Should I put her in head first or feet first?”

    Andy, suddenly silent and solemn, finally replied, “Put her down feet first. So she can wave goodbye.”

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    • July 30, 2015, at 9:16 AM PDT
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  6. Profile Photo Member

    BastiatJunior: But what about Saul Alinsky rules? Why don’t we let him stay in office and make him the face of the Democratic Party? We can even tie him to Hillary: “Clinton’s capital gains tax will make John Koskinen very happy!” To top it off, he’s a middle-aged, white male. And, while we’re at it, why don’t we do something similar with Planned Parenthood?

    DIY it. Don’t wait for the consultants to make ads for it. We will all be in the ground before that sort of thing happens.

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    • July 30, 2015, at 9:29 AM PDT
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  7. Jamie Lockett Inactive

    BastiatJunior: And, while we’re at it, why don’t we do something similar with Planned Parenthood?

    Because Planned Parenthood is profiting off of the dismembered corpses of babies and should be de-funded immediately.

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    • July 30, 2015, at 9:44 AM PDT
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  8. Jamie Lockett Inactive

    Double-post.

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    • July 30, 2015, at 9:44 AM PDT
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  9. Richard Fulmer Member

    The scary thing is that so many Democrats applaud the idea of using the IRS and other federal agencies to attack their political opponents. I wonder if their reactions to ads highlighting this practice – now common under the Obama administration – would help drive centrist voters toward the GOP even more than the ads themselves.

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    • July 30, 2015, at 10:03 AM PDT
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  10. Bob Thompson Member

    IIRC large numbers of black babies are among the abortion statistics. If Planned Parenthood is involved in that, how do they square that with ‘black lives matter’?

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    • July 30, 2015, at 10:15 AM PDT
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  11. liberal jim Inactive

    Sounds like it would be decisive and JEB would not approve of that.

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    • July 30, 2015, at 10:31 AM PDT
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  12. Gromrus Member

    PP…”Black Abortion$ Matter”

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    • July 30, 2015, at 11:02 AM PDT
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  13. Jason Rudert Member

    Some terms, for proper labeling:
    The Baby-grinding industry
    Liver-peddlers
    Kidney pushers
    Tax thugs
    Revenue spies

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    • July 30, 2015, at 11:28 AM PDT
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  14. BastiatJunior Member
    BastiatJunior

    Tom Meyer, Ed.:

    BastiatJunior: But what about Saul Alinsky rules? Why don’t we let him stay in office and make him the face of the Democratic Party? We can even tie him to Hillary: “Clinton’s capital gains tax will make John Koskinen very happy!” To top it off, he’s a middle-aged, white male. And, while we’re at it, why don’t we do something similar with Planned Parenthood?

    That seems acceptably dirty to me. :)

    I’m honored. :-)

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    • July 30, 2015, at 12:01 PM PDT
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  15. Cantankerous Homebody Inactive

    Tom Meyer, Ed.:

    BastiatJunior: But what about Saul Alinsky rules? Why don’t we let him stay in office and make him the face of the Democratic Party? We can even tie him to Hillary: “Clinton’s capital gains tax will make John Koskinen very happy!” To top it off, he’s a middle-aged, white male. And, while we’re at it, why don’t we do something similar with Planned Parenthood?

    That seems acceptably dirty to me. :)

    Which is exactly the reason we won’t out left the left. They’ll say “this man is stomping his boot on the faces of gay people!” or “this man shot a majestic lion!” or “binders full of women! BINDERS!”

    Our version is “this man may or may not have perjured himself!”

    P.S.: Binders full of women is playing in the shallow end of the pool to boot

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    • July 30, 2015, at 12:39 PM PDT
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  16. Cantankerous Homebody Inactive

    I’m sorry I didn’t mean to be overly sarcastic or critical in tone.

    It is true however that you’ll need to make things personal and emotional. Then you’ll have to find the point where any further action is morally repugnant and then go way further.

    The problem conservative “radicals” have is the same problem republican establishment types have. “Well at the end of the day we still have to work with these people so lets find a compromise where everyone can be happy.” Radicals just don’t think that way.

    I have no suggestions because it’s probably not CoC compliant.

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    • July 30, 2015, at 3:40 PM PDT
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  17. Robert McReynolds Inactive

    Because this party, the GOP, is led by a bunch of DC Establishment pansies who pee down their leg at the sight of their own shadow, that’s why. The fact that we lose to these people is beyond me. They are vile, petty, and down right stupid and yet we can’t manage to muster enough courage to attack them with the same determination that they demonstrate toward us.

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    • July 30, 2015, at 6:28 PM PDT
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  18. Robert McReynolds Inactive

    Cantankerous Homebody:The problem conservative “radicals” have is the same problem republican establishment types have. “Well at the end of the day we still have to work with these people so lets find a compromise where everyone can be happy.” Radicals just don’t think that way.

    I have no suggestions because it’s probably not CoC compliant.

    I don’t want to work with these people. I want to hear these people howl in anguish as they see the greatness of the United States unleashed upon the globe due to a restoration of our Constitutional Republic. I want them defeated, shattered, and ready to throw themselves out of windows.

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    • July 30, 2015, at 6:30 PM PDT
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  19. Robert McReynolds Inactive

    Cantankerous Homebody:

    Tom Meyer, Ed.:

    BastiatJunior: But what about Saul Alinsky rules? Why don’t we let him stay in office and make him the face of the Democratic Party? We can even tie him to Hillary: “Clinton’s capital gains tax will make John Koskinen very happy!” To top it off, he’s a middle-aged, white male. And, while we’re at it, why don’t we do something similar with Planned Parenthood?

    That seems acceptably dirty to me. :)

    Which is exactly the reason we won’t out left the left. They’ll say “this man is stomping his boot on the faces of gay people!” or “this man shot a majestic lion!” or “binders full of women! BINDERS!”

    Our version is “this man may or may not have perjured himself!”

    P.S.: Binders full of women is playing in the shallow end of the pool to boot

    No we need to ensure that the American People start viewing the Democrat Party as the Party of baby killing, Mullah loving, pederasts.

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    • July 30, 2015, at 6:32 PM PDT
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  20. Cantankerous Homebody Inactive

    Robert McReynolds:

    Cantankerous Homebody:

    Tom Meyer, Ed.:

    BastiatJunior: But what about Saul Alinsky rules? Why don’t we let him stay in office and make him the face of the Democratic Party? We can even tie him to Hillary: “Clinton’s capital gains tax will make John Koskinen very happy!” To top it off, he’s a middle-aged, white male. And, while we’re at it, why don’t we do something similar with Planned Parenthood?

    That seems acceptably dirty to me. :)

    Which is exactly the reason we won’t out left the left. They’ll say “this man is stomping his boot on the faces of gay people!” or “this man shot a majestic lion!” or “binders full of women! BINDERS!”

    Our version is “this man may or may not have perjured himself!”

    P.S.: Binders full of women is playing in the shallow end of the pool to boot

    No we need to ensure that the American People start viewing the Democrat Party as the Party of baby killing, Mullah loving, pederasts.

    Well if we wanted to go full Alinsky then one of his rules is to attack the person not the institution.

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    • July 30, 2015, at 7:58 PM PDT
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  21. Jamie Lockett Inactive

    Robert McReynolds: I don’t want to work with these people. I want to hear these people howl in anguish as they see the greatness of the United States unleashed upon the globe due to a restoration of our Constitutional Republic. I want them defeated, shattered, and ready to throw themselves out of windows.

    A strange philosophy for one who hopes to persuade people in a representative democracy.

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    • July 30, 2015, at 10:03 PM PDT
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  22. Robert McReynolds Inactive

    Jamie Lockett:

    Robert McReynolds: I don’t want to work with these people. I want to hear these people howl in anguish as they see the greatness of the United States unleashed upon the globe due to a restoration of our Constitutional Republic. I want them defeated, shattered, and ready to throw themselves out of windows.

    A strange philosophy for one who hopes to persuade people in a representative democracy.

    You aren’t going to persuade them. Look it, if you can’t get the Dems to, at the very least express some level of shock about the Planned Parenthood butchery, what makes you think you are going to be able to persuade them on something like entitlement reform or environmental issues? You are going to have to defeat these people, period.

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    • July 31, 2015, at 2:13 AM PDT
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  23. Robert McReynolds Inactive

    Cantankerous Homebody:

    Robert McReynolds:

    Cantankerous Homebody:

    Tom Meyer, Ed.:

    BastiatJunior: But what about Saul Alinsky rules? Why don’t we let him stay in office and make him the face of the Democratic Party? We can even tie him to Hillary: “Clinton’s capital gains tax will make John Koskinen very happy!” To top it off, he’s a middle-aged, white male. And, while we’re at it, why don’t we do something similar with Planned Parenthood?

    That seems acceptably dirty to me. :)

    Which is exactly the reason we won’t out left the left. They’ll say “this man is stomping his boot on the faces of gay people!” or “this man shot a majestic lion!” or “binders full of women! BINDERS!”

    Our version is “this man may or may not have perjured himself!”

    P.S.: Binders full of women is playing in the shallow end of the pool to boot

    No we need to ensure that the American People start viewing the Democrat Party as the Party of baby killing, Mullah loving, pederasts.

    Well if we wanted to go full Alinsky then one of his rules is to attack the person not the institution.

    Yes, that is exactly what we need to do. Look, it’s pretty obvious that the way we have been going about it is not working. Now it’s time to take the gloves off. It’s time to make them feel the burn of their own tactics.

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    • July 31, 2015, at 2:14 AM PDT
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  24. Jamie Lockett Inactive

    Robert McReynolds: You aren’t going to persuade them. Look it, if you can’t get the Dems to, at the very least express some level of shock about the Planned Parenthood butchery, what makes you think you are going to be able to persuade them on something like entitlement reform or environmental issues? You are going to have to defeat these people, period.

    Reagan managed it.

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    • July 31, 2015, at 6:32 AM PDT
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  25. Jamie Lockett Inactive

    Robert McReynolds: Yes, that is exactly what we need to do. Look, it’s pretty obvious that the way we have been going about it is not working. Now it’s time to take the gloves off. It’s time to make them feel the burn of their own tactics.

    So the problem with Alynski is not his tactics but rather his aims? So Obama should be applauded when he uses alynskite tactics because it is the most effective means to achieve his aims?

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    • July 31, 2015, at 6:35 AM PDT
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  26. Robert McReynolds Inactive

    Jamie Lockett:

    Robert McReynolds: You aren’t going to persuade them. Look it, if you can’t get the Dems to, at the very least express some level of shock about the Planned Parenthood butchery, what makes you think you are going to be able to persuade them on something like entitlement reform or environmental issues? You are going to have to defeat these people, period.

    Reagan managed it.

    Yeah and he did so by attacking the Left, not mimicking them. If you think that Reagan ran around talking about how he wasn’t an “angry” conservative or how he was a “compassionate” conservative, they you are fooling yourself.

    Doesn’t sound like he is being cuddly to the Left here:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tbroTjVm8Bw

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    • July 31, 2015, at 8:23 PM PDT
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  27. Robert McReynolds Inactive

    Jamie Lockett:

    Robert McReynolds: Yes, that is exactly what we need to do. Look, it’s pretty obvious that the way we have been going about it is not working. Now it’s time to take the gloves off. It’s time to make them feel the burn of their own tactics.

    So the problem with Alynski is not his tactics but rather his aims? So Obama should be applauded when he uses alynskite tactics because it is the most effective means to achieve his aims?

    No, jeez don’t be so obtuse. What Rules of Conservative Radicals calls for is that we start fighting fire with fire. They use tactics that depends on lies and slander amplified by a complicit media. What is more true, that the GOP is a bunch of racists or that the Democrat Party supports baby butchers? That the GOP is actively hostile to homosexuals or that the Democrat Party is actively hostile to religious expression in the public sphere? We need to start using the weaponry of rhetoric in the same way that they have employed it against us, and, as an added bonus, our rhetoric will be true while theirs is false.

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    • July 31, 2015, at 8:31 PM PDT
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  28. Jamie Lockett Inactive

    Robert McReynolds: Yeah and he did so by attacking the Left, not mimicking them. If you think that Reagan ran around talking about how he wasn’t an “angry” conservative or how he was a “compassionate” conservative, they you are fooling yourself. Doesn’t sound like he is being cuddly to the Left here:

    I guess he swayed the Reagan Democrats by telling them how stupid and destructive they were.

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    • July 31, 2015, at 8:35 PM PDT
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  29. Jamie Lockett Inactive

    Robert McReynolds: No, jeez don’t be so obtuse. What Rules of Conservative Radicals calls for is that we start fighting fire with fire. They use tactics that depends on lies and slander amplified by a complicit media. What is more true, that the GOP is a bunch of racists or that the Democrat Party supports baby butchers? That the GOP is actively hostile to homosexuals or that the Democrat Party is actively hostile to religious expression in the public sphere? We need to start using the weaponry of rhetoric in the same way that they have employed it against us, and, as an added bonus, our rhetoric will be true while theirs is false.

    You said to make them feel the burn of their own tactics. In a post named after a book by Saul Alynski. Don’t lambaste me for taking the plain meaning of your works. Write better.

    Also – please stop needlessly insulting me. It’s petty and in no way furthers productive discussion.

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    • July 31, 2015, at 8:45 PM PDT
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  30. BastiatJunior Member
    BastiatJunior

    Jamie Lockett:

    BastiatJunior: And, while we’re at it, why don’t we do something similar with Planned Parenthood?

    Because Planned Parenthood is profiting off of the dismembered corpses of babies and should be de-funded immediately.

    Good point. how ’bout we defund them and make them the face of the Democratic Party?

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    • August 2, 2015, at 4:44 PM PDT
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