Obama on ISIS: ‘Ideologies Are Not Defeated with Guns’

 

ObamaISISAfter meeting with military leaders today at the Pentagon, President Obama held a brief press conference on his administration’s ISIS policy. With head hung low and slumped shoulders, a graying Obama breezed through a statement that raised more questions than clarified America’s strategy:

OBAMA: This broader challenge of countering violent extremism is not simply a military effort. Ideologies are not defeated with guns, they are defeated by better ideas and more attractive and more compelling vision. So the United States will continue to do our part by continuing to counter ISIL’s hateful propaganda, especially online. We’ll constantly reaffirm through words and deeds that we will never be at war with Islam. We are fighting terrorists who distort Islam and its victims are mostly Muslims.

We’re also going to partner with Muslim communities as they seek the prosperity and dignity they observe. And we’re going to expect those communities to step up in terms of pushing back as hard as they can in conjunction with other people of good will against these hateful ideologies, particularly when it comes to what we’re teaching young people.

Were they still around, Hitler, Saddam and Pol Pot would disagree that ideologies aren’t defeated with guns (Mussolini would add that a rope works too). Yet Obama continues to peddle the silly progressive fantasy that terrorists can be defeated by a particularly clever TED talk. Even presidential pal Bill Ayers favored tossing a bomb every so often; perhaps if lefty bombmakers would target our enemies instead of our troops, we could drop a few Weathermen cells in the Middle East.

Since Obama thinks this latest statement will buy him some time, let’s look back at his history on the Islamic State to better assess our progress in rolling back the barbaric tide.

January 2014

“I think the analogy we use around here sometimes, and I think is accurate, is if a JV team puts on Lakers uniforms, that doesn’t make them Kobe Bryant. I think there is a distinction between the capacity and reach of a bin Laden and a network that is actively planning major terrorist plots against the homeland versus jihadists who are engaged in various local power struggles and disputes, often sectarian.” Two days later, ISIS took Fallujah.

August 2014

After tens of thousands of Yazidis are trapped and starving: “I’ve, therefore, authorized targeted airstrikes, if necessary, to help forces in Iraq as they fight to break the siege of Mount Sinjar and protect the civilians trapped there. Already, American aircraft have begun conducting humanitarian airdrops of food and water to help these desperate men, women and children survive… As Commander-in-Chief, I will not allow the United States to be dragged into fighting another war in Iraq.  And so even as we support Iraqis as they take the fight to these terrorists, American combat troops will not be returning to fight in Iraq, because there’s no American military solution to the larger crisis in Iraq.”

September 2014

After James Foley and Steven Sotloff are beheaded: “Our objective is clear: We will degrade, and ultimately destroy, ISIL through a comprehensive and sustained counter-terrorism strategy.”

February 2015

After Kayla Mueller is killed: “With our allies and partners, we are going to degrade and ultimately destroy this terrorist group… Today, my administration submitted a draft resolution to Congress to authorize the use of force against ISIL.”

June 2015

When asked at the G7 Summit about the progress of his anti-ISIS efforts: “When a finalized plan is presented to me by the Pentagon, then I will share it with the American people. We don’t yet have a complete strategy because it requires commitments on the part of the Iraqis, as well, about how recruitment takes place, how that training takes place. And so the details of that are not yet worked out.”

July 2015

“Ideologies are not defeated with guns, they are defeated by better ideas and more attractive and more compelling vision. So the United States will continue to do our part by continuing to counter ISIL’s hateful propaganda, especially online.”

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It is obvious that President Obama has no clear strategy to defeat or degrade ISIS, but is instead attempting to run out the clock so he can leave this nightmare for his successor to deal with. Obama entered office with a To-Do List and, in his mind, he checked off the “End War in Iraq” box back in 2011. So he will dither and dance for the next year and a half instead of reassessing his juvenile understanding of geopolitics. Whenever ISIS has a military victory or lops off a few heads, he will issue a tepid non-statement to get the press off his back for another couple of months.

In the meantime, the Middle East will continue to bleed and the western capitals will continue to shudder.

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  1. Al Kennedy Inactive
    Al Kennedy
    @AlKennedy

    Jon Gabriel, Ed.:In the meantime, the Middle East will continue to bleed and the western capitals will continue to shudder.

    His Mideast foreign policy is as incoherent as his news conference on ISIS at the Pentagon.  I just can’t bring myself to believe the policy makes any sense and more importantly I think it is detrimental to the long term interests of the United States.

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  2. MarciN Member
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    @MarciN

    The problem in trying to argue with AIG is that he has been thoroughly brainwashed by the mainstream media. I’ve heard all of these “facts” and figures from my son-in-law over the years too. And in fact, a quick Google search will push all of it to the Internet surface in mere seconds. This version was the antiwar movement’s materiel against GW.

    Because of the existence of Bush derangement syndrome, which for me put a question mark on the objectivity of the press, I followed the Iraq War every day during GW’s term in office.

    I am very proud of what America accomplished there and the condition in which we left Iraq.

    It’s really sad that AIG’s and my son-in-law’s version of events will be what is recorded in the history books and that the good work and sacrifices of the U.S. State Department, Defense Department, and military–not to mention the good work and sacrifices of our allies as well–will be lost.

    The MSM turned this into “yet another defeat” for the United States.

    Count me in on JoE’s side of this argument.

    And I would ask the antiwar left this question: If it was as the mainstream media and Obama described it in Obama’s campaign for president in 2008, why did Obama not pull the United States out as soon as he was elected? Who was really lying to the American people?

    Case closed.

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  3. tbeck Inactive
    tbeck
    @Dorothea

    AIG:Meanwhile, did Bush have a “strategy”? Seems we’re in this mess precisely because Bush had no strategy…

    AIG,

    I am not following that “we are in this mess” because Bush had no strategy. I do not think Mr. Bush, whatever his faults, is responsible for the flowering of radical Islam that is burning through the world of Islam. In fact, I think his first secretary of defense, Mr. R, (peace be upon him) thought this would be a generation-long war, if not a generations-long war.

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  4. tbeck Inactive
    tbeck
    @Dorothea

    Quinn the Eskimo:To be fair, Obama is half-right. Ideologies are not defeated by guns. Obama has a lot of guns at his disposal. Not doing him a lot of good defeating ISIS.

    And frankly, in the contrast of visions, one side offers you the ability to take all you can kill, rape or steal. And the other side, in spite of all its firepower to stop you, can only offer YouTube videos.

    When the President says, ““Ideologies are not defeated with guns, they are defeated by better ideas and more attractive and more compelling vision,” he is explaining why ISIS has got the jump on him.

    That can’t be right, unless. Unless you are a young Muslim male aged 14-24, who thinks that a life in glorious paradise after death, with sex slaves, women as chattel, indiscriminate violence and depravity while and being treated as a young lord in the mean time is a bad thing. Oh dear.

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  5. tbeck Inactive
    tbeck
    @Dorothea

    AIG:

    KevinC:Yeah, remember when the 203rd Feminist History Battalion (Airmobile) landed on Omaha Beach and went on to defeat the Nazis with a brilliant refutation of binary gender fascist ideology?

    Good times, good times.

    Yeah, remember when Bush used to speak about changing ideologies in the ME? What a Lefty loony toon he was.

    Good times, indeed.

    Many believers must also be killed.

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  6. tbeck Inactive
    tbeck
    @Dorothea

    Western Chauvinist:Aw, shucks, Jon. You beat me to it. I was going to post this under the headline, “In Which I Agree (Halfway) with Obama’s Foreign Policy.”

    but nukes do a bang-up job! Just look at the absence of the imperial cult among the Japanese these days!

    The question may be, how many Sunni v Shia have to kill each other? It is a terrible thing. In some ways, the West may be bystanders.

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  7. tbeck Inactive
    tbeck
    @Dorothea

    Quinn the Eskimo:It is also probably worth mentioning that the ideology of German racial superiority was defeated in part the guns of the so-called racially inferior people of the East. A pretty convincing refutation of the notion of the Aryan superman, I would say.

    Mongrels and guns!

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  8. tbeck Inactive
    tbeck
    @Dorothea

    James Gawron:

    KevinC:

    James Gawron: Find the Jihadists, kill the Jihadists, and return to base.

    Nice in theory, but jihad doesn’t start in Syria, it starts in Ridayh and Qom, and let’s face it, at least one of those cities is a bridge too far right now.

    Love him or hate him, Bush was always certain that the U.S. was on the right side in this war. When we have a President who talks about fighting “Those who would slander the Prophet of Islam,” I have to wonder which side he’s rooting for…

    I agree that Obama is inferior in all ways to Bush. However, we must try to improve upon our strategy in light of new knowledge. We must choose between the theoretical Jihadism of Riyadh and the active hyper-politicized Jihadism of Tehran. Riyadh desperately needs to fight Tehran. They will gladly engage in an anti-Jihadist war against Tehran right now if we were to offer it. Meanwhile, Tehran smirks at Kerry as the idiot imagines that Tehran would ever engage in an anti-Jihadist war. They are a pure Jihadist state. Their national founding ideology is based on an extreme hatred of the United States and Israel. They are aggressively subverting every other country in the Middle East and the current reaction to them is the evidence.

    We have other potential allies in the Middle East. The Iranian People for one. They are highly educated and have repeatedly tried to break free of the Mullahs. They have the least to gain and the most to lose by a policy of insane Jihadism.

    By partnering wisely and conclusively, we can promote our position and break the Jihadists. The vast majority of Muslims in the Middle East would be pleased by this. Only the completely ignorant could cling to pure Jihadism and they are not the future. Anyone with a smartphone knows that the world does not work the way the Jihadists want it. Start killing them and their invincibility dissolves. The Peshmerga are a good test case. Unfortunately, they are not capable of alliance beyond their own borders. The Egyptians and the Saudis are already at war with Jihad. Find more allies and make more joint efforts.

    Finally, there was nothing wrong with shock and awe. We just needed to go to the surge a couple years sooner.

    Regards,

    Jim

    There are many things I am sure Mr. Bush would have liked to “redo” on the international stage. I am sure that is something he and Mr. Obama have in common.  But can we all agree that bowing to foreign kings/ministers/emperors/bureaucrats/gestapo is not appropriate?

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  9. tbeck Inactive
    tbeck
    @Dorothea

    James Of England:

    Karen :I’ve heard accounts from Christian missionaries that have visited the refugee camps that ISIS fighters have gone into Christian villages, killed all the men and boys and taken the girls and women as sex slaves. Girls as young as nine are sold into marriage to these monsters, raped, sewn up and sold to another monster to be torn open again and again. Obama’s remarks are beyond useless. I have no use for a man who could do something about these atrocities and chooses not to. Where have all the good men gone?

    For a sense of why they do that (it attracts recruits, means that they’re then not allowed home again, that they can’t join rival armies, that they have a powerful motivation to retain a belief in ISIS’ brand of theology, rather than the dominant, child rape condemning, brand, dehumanizes them, and bonds them to their peers) Berger’s book is very good.

    One downside; the form of slaves you’re describing are actually some of the luckier ones; if you’re involved in a series of short term marriages you’re less likely to be repeatedly raped within the span of a day, and are likely to live longer than if you’re categorized as a captive with whom extra-marital sex is legitimate. Stuff like that can make for uncomfortable reading.

    For what it’s worth, Berger thinks that we should focus more on social media escalation and less on physical escalation, although obviously he doesn’t go as far as Obama.

    How can we support the single moms in Western societies that want to teach their second sons that this sort of stuff is “not cool” and in fact is a sin in the World of Islam.

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  10. tbeck Inactive
    tbeck
    @Dorothea

    Manny:

    It is obvious that President Obama has no clear strategy to defeat or degrade ISIS, but is instead attempting to run out the clock so he can leave this nightmare for his successor to deal with. Obama entered office with a To-Do List and, in his mind, he checked off the “End War in Iraq” box back in 2011. So he will dither and dance for the next year and a half instead of reassessing his juvenile understanding of geopolitics. Whenever ISIS has a military victory or lops off a few heads, he will issue a tepid non-statement to get the press off his back for another couple of months.

    In the meantime, the Middle East will continue to bleed and the western capitals will continue to shudder.

    Agree. And while I can understand Obama’s point about defeating with ideas, where is he doing even that? He’s not doing anything, neither in the realm of ideas or in the realm of guns. You’re absolutely right. He was completely focused on ending the war and he will do nothing to prove that was a mistake. He will do nothing for the remaining time in office.

    I am afraid you are right. Where is Mr. Obama’s sister soulja moment relating to the hooting and hollering that happened while Mr. Bush turned over the keys. Where is the leadership.

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  11. tbeck Inactive
    tbeck
    @Dorothea

    Manny:

    It is obvious that President Obama has no clear strategy to defeat or degrade ISIS, but is instead attempting to run out the clock so he can leave this nightmare for his successor to deal with. Obama entered office with a To-Do List and, in his mind, he checked off the “End War in Iraq” box back in 2011. So he will dither and dance for the next year and a half instead of reassessing his juvenile understanding of geopolitics. Whenever ISIS has a military victory or lops off a few heads, he will issue a tepid non-statement to get the press off his back for another couple of months.

    In the meantime, the Middle East will continue to bleed and the western capitals will continue to shudder.

    Agree. And while I can understand Obama’s point about defeating with ideas, where is he doing even that? He’s not doing anything, neither in the realm of ideas or in the realm of guns. You’re absolutely right. He was completely focused on ending the war and he will do nothing to prove that was a mistake. He will do nothing for the remaining time in office.

    Unfortunately, young Muslim men around the world need other than US leadership to staunch this radicalism. Where is the Muslim leadership?

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  12. tbeck Inactive
    tbeck
    @Dorothea

    Man With the Axe:

    AIG: If you’d said “Obama is just as bad/good as Bush”, I’d agree with you and move on.

    Why would that be the case? That sounds like an awfully random thing to assume. Two presidents, one exactly as good as the other? Why can’t one be better and one worse, based on the decisions they actually made?

    I, for one, am glad Mr. Obama continued Mr. Bush’s policy of judicious drone strikes.

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