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I take it back! I really am ashamed the “mole” thing ever crossed my mind! It is great to have you here. The Birkenstock niche was unfilled and you raise the level of nice and articulate quite a bit.
Interesting, Kate!
You are what most of us came to Ricochet to be or to become. You are an honest person who holds a mixture of political views and has questions about many of those beliefs.
The people to watch out for are those with a doctrinaire position, liberal, conservative or libertarian. Never trust an unexamined life, it ain’t worth living.
My guess is that you are in the process of becoming a libertarian/conservative. In fact, I believe that many of us are, as were the founders. The difference being whether you desire an active relationship with your Creator or not. Since you are of a religious bent, I recommend, as a Pentecostal Evangelical, that you look more closely at God’s Word and less at denominational theology. Many of your conservative vs. liberal quandaries will be more understandable as world view conflicts.
The Sandinistas: not good guys. They rained destruction on my sister-in-law’s people, the Miskito Indians.
No, Jojo—it was a good question, and one I really thought a lot about. That is, once I realized that we weren’t talking about the sort of “mole” my dermatologist is always fussing about…you and I were talking about healthcare, and my brain sometimes gets stuck in one track and can’t jump!
This is probably one of the best Ricochet outreach posts I’ve ever read, and it wasn’t even intentional!
Rob! Peter! This should make it to as many eyes as possible! Send it out to the Daily Shot mailing list. (At least brightly link to it.)
That being said Kate, you sound like a Scott Alexander libertarian, otherwise known as Bleeding Heart Libertarians. That’s not me, but there are much worse things! ;)
No, not good guys. Among other cringe-worthy moments from my days as an ineffectual, adolescent activist is the time I was babysitting and, for some reason, tried to explain away the Sandinista’s disinclination to hold elections to my client’s Nicaraguan housekeeper… fourteen years old, and already a pompous, condescending and almost wholly ignorant snot.
She’d probably been through worse.
I’m a community minister rather than a church and pulpit based minister, and I think you’re onto something, Raycon and Lindacon! I work in the field with people of all possible faiths (including none), usually under conditions of extreme stress and trauma. This does tend to knock the edges off one’s denominational identity because the chaplain is always working with people who don’t share the same “tribal” language, and it is my job to meet them where they are. Because of this, I have developed a much stronger and more trusting relationship with God than I think I would have, had I stayed in a church-and-pulpit based ministry.
Welcome to Ricochet, Kate!
I printed out your post and showed it to my mother, who happens to be visiting right now.
While your lives are very different (she was born in 1937 for starters) your political views are similar. She could identify with a lot of what you said.
Will she join Ricochet, too? Don’t know yet.
I am not pure anything ideologically.
I’ve never belonged to a church–I was brought up in the Congregational Church, married a Catholic and love the Church and raised my kids in it but I’ve not made the leap myself. I consider myself an ecumenical admirer of all faiths. I enjoy learning about them all. It’s my favorite thing about Ricochet.
I grew up in a relatively chaotic situation, and consequently I don’t trust or believe anyone or anything easily. And I’m a natural born skeptic of all things.
I do believe in God–and it’s completely personal. He has answered all of my prayers. Every single time. Whether anyone else knows God the way I do, I have no idea.
I admire what Kate is doing because after the terrorist attacks, I daydreamed a lot about building a place of prayer and community on a quiet lake somewhere where people could enjoy prayer and music and the solace of companionship with others. Organized religions scare a lot of people (me!–I don’t measure up), but prayer and the comfort of companionship is a human need that transcends everything. I think organized religion connects to something inside people that is already there, that God put there in case of emergency.
My chapel or sanctuary would be a hospital emergency room for the soul. :)
Anyway, I love your writing, Kate. I really enjoy it.
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Gettin’ it said Kate! I sure don’t want to cross you.
I don’t really follow people who say it’s Congress’s fault if Obama doesn’t enforce the immigration laws as passed- “If Congress doesn’t like it, they should pass a law” Uh, they did. Oh, they should keep passing laws till they get to what Obama’s going to do anyway? Got it.
Great post, Kate. I agree with Mike. Your post shows what I believe they guys had in mind when they started this thing.
As far as your youth is concerned, Kate, you just happened to live close enough to the action to get invovled. That is an impressionable age. I can’t imagine being in the D.C. area during the late ’60’s and early ’70’s and not getting caught up in it. I’m sure all your friends were feeling the same way. Then you get out into the “real world” and see things in a different light. I think this is why you see most activists are on college campuses. The professors and students have seldom been in the “real world”. It is easy to protest such things when your world consists of downtown Chapel Hill types.
Whatever it is you’re doing here, keep doing it. I’m glad you’re here.
Right on schedule, then!
Anyway, as I was reading your wonderful post, I kept thinking “not liberal; libertarian… not liberal; libertarian… not liberal; libertarian…”
So color me unsurprised that you got a “measurement” somewhere of “libertarian.”
And welcome to the club! We have the best whacko-birds.
Hey, Kate! Good to have a fellow chaplain and bleeding-heart-about-some-things around here! Godspeed and prayerful support for all the facets of your journey…
I think you’re a Liberal in the best, classical, sense of the word.
You sure aren’t boring or predictable. The post was a delight to read and think on.
I’m heartened at your perceptions inside the Conservative Big-Top Tent. There is nothing homogeneous or monolithic about it. Herding cats.
Very nice piece, Kate. I’m glad you’re here and hope to see you at a Ricochet meetup some time.
That is exactly what I was thinking! Kate, between your openness, smarts, citing one of my favorite books (The Righteous Mind), you are a great addition to Ricochet. Welcome and thanks for enriching us!
What you have described is the accident of Ricochet Peter and Rob stumbled upon while trying to merely use market forces to keep the trolls at bay. It’s a beautiful and edifying thing to battle wits and wisdom without coming to blows.
“I’m a bleeding heart, tax-and-spend conservative.”
Most people would call that a Republican.
Political ideology devides and defines us in many ways but if you let an ideology define you, you are making yourself smaller that you can be. You are more than your political or philosophical allegiances which is a very good thing.
Welcome to Ricochet, Kate! This is a happy place to land. And you’re in good company. I was born to staunch Republicans but have been proudly wearing Birkenstocks with, and without, socks since 1983.
I would wager that MANY other ‘liberals’ would surprise themselves by agreeing with your political self-analysis.
There have been polls over the years showing Americans lean center-right. These polls don’t focus on the bread and circus outrage of the day, but politics as it relates to peoples feelings regarding the issues you discussed.
Great post! :)
#hopeful
My evolution as a conservative pretty much followed your path. From BBC soft socialism to NPR snide superiority to, of all things, Rush Limbaugh clarity. I consider my time in the socialist realm as one of a useful idiot. I was there for the very best of motives. The motives of those responsible for my naive positions were ideological, evil and manipulative.
It’s hard to step out of that emotional world of kind feelings and empty gestures and replace it with conservative pragmatism and quiet good deeds. One gets lots of popularity and strokes for the former and utter contempt and hatred for the latter.
Both conservatives and liberals want the same thing; a better world. It’s how these ends are achieved that differentiates us. Unfortunately for the sake of petty party politics one side has chosen to engage in the political world by unrelenting demonization of the other rather than engaging the issues themselves.
It is good to hear that us ravening lunatics of the right haven’t driven you off from Ricochet.
I don’t think it is just the ends. I also think our definitions of “a better world” also differ. In particular, I think that liberals hope for a world without consequences, whereas conservatives fear it.
From the first comment by you that I read, I had you pegged for a smart and articulate person, Kate, though it took awhile to figure out your politics. In fact, I had wondered what your story is. I’m so glad you told it in this post. A hearty welcome! I have many friends on the left, and I have noticed that when we talk about any topic in the micro and personal, we tend to agree a lot. When we talk about the macro, we tend to disagree. Ah well–life is a process. We are all becoming all the time. That’s a good thing, but it can be confusing!
The old saying goes “that to understand someone you must walk in their shoes “. But please Birkenstock and Socks! I am a penny loafers kind of guy or wingtips. Welcome Kate.
Welcome to Ricochet, Kate. Your situation reminds me of that of a friend, who is both a college professor and a Christian playwright/songwriter. She is considered conservative amongst her fellow college professors. She is considered a liberal by many of her conservative Christian writer buddies. At the core of it, she is is smart and principled and open to change.
(Edited to fix a sentence fragment that I should’ve caught before posting. Grrrr…)
They should promote this post to the main page.