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queen hillaryYes, the great C. S. Lewis died in 1963. And that makes it all the more amazing that he provides a crystal clear portrayal of Hillary in The Magician’s Nephew. You may recall the scene where Hillary… excuse me, Jadis of Charn — the evil sorceress who eventually kills Aslan — explains to Digory why she must possess complete power, and why she must be above the law.

I had forgotten that you are only a common boy. How could you understand reasons of State? You must learn, child, that what would be wrong for you or for any of the common people is not wrong in a great Queen such as I. The weight of the world is on our shoulders. We must be freed from all rules. Ours is a high and lonely destiny.

Is this not accurate? Hillary makes laws, but she has no need to obey them. Why? Because it is her “high and lonely destiny” to hold power. Laws only stand in her way. Like good little children, we must be taught to take our medicine. It’s good for us.

Once again, I feel the urge to cry for our country.

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  1. Arahant Member

    tabula rasa: Once again, I feel the urge to cry for our country.

    New rivers are springing forth each day.

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    • March 10, 2015, at 5:28 PM PDT
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  2. Misthiocracy got drunk and Member
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    As a loyal subject of Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth II, I find this post insulting to genuine queens. Heck, I bet my Queen pays her taxes more faithfully than Hillary does! ;-)

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    • March 10, 2015, at 5:38 PM PDT
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  3. tabula rasa Member
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    Misthiocracy:As a loyal subject of Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth II, I find this post insulting to genuine queens. Heck, I bet my Queen pays her taxes more faithfully than Hillary does! ;-)

    I blame C. S. Lewis. Crazy Irishman.

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    • March 10, 2015, at 6:16 PM PDT
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  4. Percival Thatcher
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    No despair, TR. She ain’t been crowned yet.

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    • March 10, 2015, at 7:04 PM PDT
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  5. tabula rasa Member
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    Percival:No despair, TR.She ain’t been crowned yet.

    I know, and agree, but the mere fact that so many Americans think she should be president is itself deeply depressing.

    I’m all for a woman president, but not that woman.

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    • March 10, 2015, at 7:36 PM PDT
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  6. blank generation member Inactive

    I don’t think this is the correct literary reference. I’m not the first to observe that the Snopes family from Faulkner is the way to look at it. Admittedly I’ve only read The Hamlet, but its all about what you can get over someone.

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    • March 10, 2015, at 8:00 PM PDT
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  7. Profile Photo Member

    Brilliantly put, as usual, Tabula.

    The Queen wa such a frightening character as she was so attractive and powerful and it sounded so rational.

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    • March 10, 2015, at 8:24 PM PDT
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  8. Songwriter Inactive
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    Wonderful comparison, TR.

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    • March 10, 2015, at 8:37 PM PDT
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  9. tabula rasa Member
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    blank generation member:I don’t think this is the correct literary reference. I’m not the first to observe that the Snopes family from Faulkner is the way to look at it. Admittedly I’ve only read The Hamlet, but its all about what you can get over someone.

    I can agree so long as we stipulate that Hillary is Ab Snopes.

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    • March 10, 2015, at 9:19 PM PDT
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  10. Arahant Member

    tabula rasa:

    blank generation member:I don’t think this is the correct literary reference. I’m not the first to observe that the Snopes family from Faulkner is the way to look at it. Admittedly I’ve only read The Hamlet, but its all about what you can get over someone.

    I can agree so long as we stipulate that Hillary is Ab Snopes.

    And Bill is Ike Snopes?

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    • March 10, 2015, at 9:26 PM PDT
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  11. Profile Photo Member

    I’all bring the tissues, TR…

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    • March 10, 2015, at 10:48 PM PDT
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  12. HankRhody Freelance Philosopher Contributor

    tabula rasa: Yes, the great C. S. Lewis died in 1963. And that makes it all the more amazing that he provides a crystal clear portrayal of Hillary in The Magician’s Nephew.

    Read this out loud to my roommate, adding “That’s got to be the meanest thing I’ve ever heard someone say.

    He replied “I know. Totally unfair to the Queen from the Magician’s Nephew.”

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    • March 11, 2015, at 2:02 AM PDT
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  13. Ross C Member
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    I have also been mulling over this concept of Queen Hillary and I think it is a very apt one. She is plagued by scandal, above the law and common morality, an extremely rich person via entitlement only, and out of touch with the ordinary American will hopefully doom her candidacy.

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    • March 11, 2015, at 6:15 AM PDT
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  14. Pencilvania Inactive

    Excuse my ignorance, I didn’t read the book – but what happens to the Queen eventually? Is she overthrown?

    And does it involve emails?

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    • March 11, 2015, at 6:29 AM PDT
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  15. AUMom Member
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    Pencilvania:Excuse my ignorance, I didn’t read the book – but what happens to the Queen eventually? Is she overthrown?

    And does it involve emails?

    It does not involve emails. She is finally overthrown but not before ruling Narnia for many years where it was “always winter but never Christmas.”

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    • March 11, 2015, at 7:06 AM PDT
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  16. Pencilvania Inactive

    Augh. That’s just awful.

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    • March 11, 2015, at 7:08 AM PDT
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  17. Seawriter Contributor

    Actually, Hillary! (TM) reminds me more of the Lady of the Green Kirtle from “The Silver Chair.” Remember the following passage from the book? It is pure Hillary! (TM):

    “What is this sun that you all speak of? Do you mean anything by the word?”

    “Yes, we jolly well do,” said Scrubb.

    “Can you tell me what it’s like?” asked the Witch (thrum, thrum, thrum, went the strings).

    “Please it your Grace,” said the Prince, very coldly and politely. “You see that lamp. It is round and yellow and gives light to the whole room; and hangeth moreover from the roof. Now that thing which we call the sun is like the lamp, only far greater and brighter. It giveth light to the whole Overworld and hangeth in the sky.”

    “Hangeth from what, my lord?” asked the Witch; and then, while they were all still thinking how to answer her, she added, with another of her soft, silver laughs: “You see? When you try to think out clearly what this sun must be, you cannot tell me. You can only tell me it is like the lamp. Your sun is a dream; and there is nothing in that dream that was not copied from the lamp. The lamp is the real thing; the sun is but a tale, a children’s story.”

    “Yes, I see now,” said Jill in a heavy, hopeless tone. “It must be so.” And while she said this, it seemed to her to be very good sense.

    Slowly and gravely the Witch repeated, “There is no sun.” And they all said nothing. She repeated, in a softer and deeper voice. “There is no sun.” After a pause, and after a struggle in their minds, all four of them said together. “You are right. There is no sun.” It was such a relief to give in and say it.

    “There never was a sun,” said the Witch.

    “No. There never was a sun,” said the Prince, and the Marsh-wiggle, and the children.

    Seawriter

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    • March 11, 2015, at 7:14 AM PDT
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  18. Karen Humiston Member
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    I love the scene in The Magician’s Nephew where the wicked and clueless Uncle Andrew fawns on Jadis in smitten admiration (“Dem fine woman! A dem fine woman!”) while everyone with a brain and any sense of morality looks on in horror. Hillary Clinton: a”dem fine woman!”

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    • March 11, 2015, at 7:39 AM PDT
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  19. Hartmann von Aue Member

    At least Jadis was pretty, by all accounts. I kid of course, TR. The description of Charn though, along with the scene in That Hideous Strength in which the bull dyke policewoman has Jane stripped and tortures her earn C.S. Lewis my vote for horror author of the 20th century. The cheap, gore-driven theatrics of Clive Barker and Ramsey Campbell seem puerile by comparison.

    As for HRC: I don’t think she’s going to be healthy enough to run in another 16 months.

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    • March 11, 2015, at 7:55 AM PDT
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  20. DrewInEastHillAutonomousZone Coolidge

    This was a common theme for Lewis. It imbues much of his “Space Trilogy,” too. If I had some time, I’d look up the similar passages from “Out of the Silent Planet” and “That Hideous Strength.”

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    • March 11, 2015, at 7:56 AM PDT
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  21. EJHill Podcaster
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    Royals

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    • March 11, 2015, at 8:06 AM PDT
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  22. Goldwater's Revenge Inactive

    My question is what act short of cold bloodied murder before a bevy of unimpeachable witnesses would make her unfit for office in the minds of her rabid followers. Every new Clinton scandal is seen only as as a ploy by evil Republicans, throwing mud at the ceiling, hoping someday it will stick. The Queen rides in a bullet proof carriage.

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    • March 11, 2015, at 8:40 AM PDT
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  23. William Laing Inactive

    [Digory realise that uncle Andrew was saying ‘ours is a high and lonely destiny’ – the same thing as Queen Jadis]. “but it did not sound nearly as impressive now, possibly because Uncle Andrew was not seven feet tall and dazzlingly beautiful.” The former Secretary of State suffers by comparison in much the same way as Uncle Andrew did.

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    • March 11, 2015, at 8:42 AM PDT
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  24. Ansonia Member
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    Perfect comparison.

    I would love to see on Facebook the picture of crowned Hillary that you have for this post, or EJHill’s picture, with the C.S. Lewis quote (“The weight of the world…..”) added under “Ready for Queen Hillary.”

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    • March 11, 2015, at 8:51 AM PDT
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  25. tabula rasa Member
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    Seawriter:Actually, Hillary! (TM) reminds me more of the Lady of the Green Kirtle from “The Silver Chair.” Remember the following passage from the book? It is pure Hillary! (TM):

    “What is this sun that you all speak of? Do you mean anything by the word?”

    “Yes, we jolly well do,” said Scrubb.

    “Can you tell me what it’s like?” asked the Witch (thrum, thrum, thrum, went the strings).

    “Please it your Grace,” said the Prince, very coldly and politely. “You see that lamp. It is round and yellow and gives light to the whole room; and hangeth moreover from the roof. Now that thing which we call the sun is like the lamp, only far greater and brighter. It giveth light to the whole Overworld and hangeth in the sky.”

    “Hangeth from what, my lord?” asked the Witch; and then, while they were all still thinking how to answer her, she added, with another of her soft, silver laughs: “You see? When you try to think out clearly what this sun must be, you cannot tell me. You can only tell me it is like the lamp. Your sun is a dream; and there is nothing in that dream that was not copied from the lamp. The lamp is the real thing; the sun is but a tale, a children’s story.”

    “Yes, I see now,” said Jill in a heavy, hopeless tone. “It must be so.” And while she said this, it seemed to her to be very good sense.

    Slowly and gravely the Witch repeated, “There is no sun.” And they all said nothing. She repeated, in a softer and deeper voice. “There is no sun.” After a pause, and after a struggle in their minds, all four of them said together. “You are right. There is no sun.” It was such a relief to give in and say it.

    “There never was a sun,” said the Witch.

    “No. There never was a sun,” said the Prince, and the Marsh-wiggle, and the children.

    Seawriter

    Excellent. Lewis seems prophetic.

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    • March 11, 2015, at 10:31 AM PDT
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  26. tabula rasa Member
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    DrewInWisconsin:This was a common theme for Lewis. It imbues much of his “Space Trilogy,” too. If I had some time, I’d look up the similar passages from “Out of the Silent Planet” and “That Hideous Strength.”

    And not only his fiction. Lewis wrote often, and with great derision, of the intellectual elites and bureaucrats of the modern omnicompetent, omnipresent state. He hated concentrations of power and those who seek that power, once concentrated.

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    • March 11, 2015, at 10:35 AM PDT
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  27. tabula rasa Member
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    AUMom:

    Pencilvania:Excuse my ignorance, I didn’t read the book – but what happens to the Queen eventually? Is she overthrown?

    And does it involve emails?

    It does not involve emails. She is finally overthrown but not before ruling Narnia for many years where it was “always winter but never Christmas.”

    And doesn’t that sound consistent with Hillary’s dour personality? She would happily cancel Christmas if she could be president.

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    • March 11, 2015, at 10:42 AM PDT
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  28. Seawriter Contributor

    tabula rasa:

    She would happily cancel Christmas if she could be president.

    Nah. She’d keep it, but ban gift-giving, parties, and elaborate dinners to underscore her ability to make your life miserable.

    Seawriter

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    • March 11, 2015, at 10:58 AM PDT
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  29. AUMom Member
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    Should Hillary ever get her hands on wand that turns folks to stone, we are all going to be in trouble.

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    • March 11, 2015, at 11:00 AM PDT
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  30. RedRules Inactive

    Isn’t that guy white?! I am just feeling so triggered right now…..

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    • March 11, 2015, at 7:30 PM PDT
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