Limits to Curmudgeonhood?

 

In a conversation last month, the subject of curmudgeonhood came up. There were some advocates of a minimum age restriction that would start somewhere around fifty. In short, their view was that curmudgeonhood was earned through experience.

My dictionary’s* definition of curmudgeon is: “A surly, ill-mannered, bad-tempered person; cantankerous fellow.”

Alright, given that definition, maybe curmudgeonhood is nothing to aspire to, but I also notice that there is no age limit given or implied. I’ve known two-year-olds who qualify. Actually, I suspect almost all two-year-olds qualify by that definition.

Of course, not every working definition of a word is the same as the published definition. Many think more of a lovable curmudgeon: a crabby, older person who shouts, “Get off my lawn.” The sort of person Clint Eastwood has morphed into playing as he has aged.

Another factor in curmudgeonhood as the cultural working definition exists is intelligence. I have not been able to find it after extensive searches, but my memory tells me there was a scientific article a few years back that showed that curmudgeons were often more intelligent than their peers. The curmudgeon sees someone proposing this “great new idea,” and says, “It’s been tried before many times, and failed every time.” This takes some combination of intelligence and experience, but would the lower age limit, if any, be different for someone with an average IQ vs. someone who was outside the 95% normal? What about for someone whose IQ was way off the scale? Would he be able to come to curmudgeonhood at a younger age? Would it be different for those who gained knowledge of human nature via reading history or in other vicarious ways rather than those who have gained their experience through suffering the slings and arrows of being around normal humans?

So, what do you think, Ricochetois? What is a curmudgeon? Are there age limits? Are curmudgeons born or made? If made, what creates a curmudgeon?

* Webster’s New World Dictionary of the American Language Second Edition (1980)

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  1. user_656019 Coolidge
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    @RayKujawa

    This post and about twenty others to form parts of Arahant’s new book, “The Joys of Living Curmudgeonly,” subtitled, “Yes, You too Can Be an Old Crank (or a Young One in Training).”

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  2. Arahant Member
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    @Arahant

    Ray Kujawa:This post and about twenty others to form parts of Arahant’s new book, “The Joys of Living Curmudgeonly,” subtitled, “Yes, You too Can Be an Old Crank (or a Young One in Training).”

    You know, that really isn’t a bad idea. I may steal that title.

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  3. Ricochet Member
    Ricochet
    @carcat74

    Arahant:

    Gary McVey:Damn it, if you can’t toss old shoes at alley cats without being criticized, can we even call this a republic anymore?

    It’s truly a sad state of affairs. And having gone through two cats who were in heat (before we had a chance to spay them), I must admit the temptation is strong.

    I had a cat we named ‘Squaller’ because of the loud caterwauling sounds she made while calling out to the neighborhood Romeos….

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  4. Boss Mongo Member
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    @BossMongo

    carcat74:

    Arahant:

    Gary McVey:Damn it, if you can’t toss old shoes at alley cats without being criticized, can we even call this a republic anymore?

    It’s truly a sad state of affairs. And having gone through two cats who were in heat (before we had a chance to spay them), I must admit the temptation is strong.

    I had a cat we named ‘Squaller’ because of the loud caterwauling sounds she made while calling out to the neighborhood Romeos….

    Yeah.  I’m thinkin’ the (short-lived) feline would’ve been named Squa–*

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  5. kylez Member
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    @kylez

    Arahant:

    kylez:I will never forget being in a ninth grade class as one of two suburban white boys amongst a class full of kids from the other side of town, who were mostly black or Hispanic. Many of them laughed at Fred Goldman, and virtually all believed OJ was innocent. Very soon after, I had my nice two-month-old Schwinn Beach Cruiser bike stolen from me on my way home from school by a black male. Two or three black males across the street laughed as I had naively ran across the street shouting “give me my bike back!”

    And is that when you became a curmudgeon? Or are you one yet?

    Sorry for the lateness of this reply. I’d say no it didn’t make me a curmudgeon at that point, but it is an early dose of uncomfortable reality that has stuck with me.

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  6. user_2505 Contributor
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    @GaryMcVey

    Thanks for coming back and completing the thought, kylez. A lot of us have similar stories to tell.

    There’s a universal human tendency to keep two sets of books, metaphorically speaking, and blacks are as prone as the rest of us to conveniently forget that all this hostility towards them didn’t all originate in racist TV shows.

    You mention two ethnic groups. Ironically, in my youth, the Puerto Ricans teamed up with the whites to oppose the overwhelming numbers of blacks; in my son’s time, the blacks and the whites are united against the overwhelming numbers of Latinos. It’s a shifting landscape of alliances.

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