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shutterstock_131310620George W. Bush is probably the last. I remember the excitement at bible study about a praying president. We all thought it was pretty darn cool. It’s a shame economic sensibilities weren’t high on the laundry list he asked for from God.

Somebody asked me about Mike Huckabee recently and I opined that we’d never have another overtly religious president. I thought I’d explain why and see what the masses think.

  • The idea that W only needed evangelicals to get elected hit home to the leftists; they’ve chipped away at their influence through all of their many tendrils;
  • For all the fuss about it, gay marriage is a losing cause, both nationally and in many states;
  • Abortion, that horrible act, is a touchy issue politically even for those against it;
  • Mitt Romney never got pressed hard because the Democrats knew all along he’d lose; Magic underwear and his family’s own afterlife planet would have come to the fore if needed;
  • Jeb will have to deal with more negativity than his dynastic name. He believes the pope can speak ex cathedra. While the Left will adore the socialist leanings of this pope, the media will hammer Jeb on birth control and women’s issues; and
  • If an evangelical gets the nod, there will be dinosaur questions as well as rapture ones.

You get the idea. Whatever faith a person has, there are some beliefs that open themselves up to criticism, derision, or worse….comedy.

I think it’s too much to overcome on a national level.

 

 

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  1. Vectorman Thatcher

    Ted Cruz obviously could become a religious president. He’s made appearances on the Total Christian Television (TCT) network.

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    • January 22, 2015, at 9:52 AM PST
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  2. DocJay Inactive
    DocJay Post author

    Vectorman:Ted Cruz obviously could become a religious president. He’s made appearances on Total Christian Television.

    Great man. He can’t win though.

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    • January 22, 2015, at 9:54 AM PST
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  3. The (apathetic) King Prawn Inactive

    The left is fine with espoused faith, they just can’t stomach anyone who actually believes the stuff.

    How connected is Paul to his religion?

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    • January 22, 2015, at 9:56 AM PST
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  4. CB Toder aka Mama Toad Member

    See what “the masses” think??

    I thought we were the creme de la creme? Intellectual supremes? Aren’t the Ricochetti a cut above? Or am I just foolin’ myself?

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    • January 22, 2015, at 9:57 AM PST
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  5. Vectorman Thatcher

    DocJay:

    Vectorman:Ted Cruz obviously could become a religious president. He’s made appearances on Total Christian Television.

    Great man. He can’t win though.

    If you mean the nomination, I’ll agree with you. But in the general election, he could surprise many like Reagan did.

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    • January 22, 2015, at 10:00 AM PST
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  6. Mate De Coolidge

    Actually, I don’t think we’ll ever have an Atheist president.

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    • January 22, 2015, at 10:03 AM PST
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  7. DocJay Inactive
    DocJay Post author

    Mama Toad:See what “the masses” think??

    I thought we were the creme de la creme? Intellectual supremes? Aren’t the Ricochetti a cut above? Or am I just foolin’ myself?

    The class of the place dropped a couple days ago but yes dear, this is the nicest and most intelligent place on the net.

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    • January 22, 2015, at 10:06 AM PST
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  8. Fake John/Jane Galt Coolidge

    A non white religious person running on the Democratic ticket might pull it off, especially if he can pull off some of that MLK rhetoric. If you mean a religious white male Republican, that is never going to happen again.

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    • January 22, 2015, at 10:07 AM PST
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  9. DocJay Inactive
    DocJay Post author

    Matede:Actually, I don’t think we’ll ever have an Atheist president.

    We do now. Obama just sat there in his weird church to get votes. But overtly atheist? Not for a while. Likely not in our lifetimes but an agnostic is possible.

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    • January 22, 2015, at 10:07 AM PST
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  10. DocJay Inactive
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    Matede:

    Fake John Galt:A non white religious person running on the Democratic ticket might pull it off, especially if he can pull off some of that MLK rhetoric. If you mean a religious white male Republican, that is never going to happen again.

    Yeah, a dem would get to avoid the wrath of SNL, Stewart and Colbert.

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    • January 22, 2015, at 10:09 AM PST
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  11. CB Toder aka Mama Toad Member

    DocJay:

    Mama Toad:See what “the masses” think??

    I thought we were the creme de la creme? Intellectual supremes? Aren’t the Ricochetti a cut above? Or am I just foolin’ myself?

    The class of the place dropped a couple days ago but yes dear, this is the nicest and most intelligent place on the net.

    Yeah, I noticed that. Both you and I were kind of not present on the site for months, and now we’re both posting, so what does that say for the site? Bad news. Sad days….

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    • January 22, 2015, at 10:10 AM PST
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  12. DocJay Inactive
    DocJay Post author

    Vectorman:

    DocJay:

    Vectorman:Ted Cruz obviously could become a religious president. He’s made appearances on Total Christian Television.

    Great man. He can’t win though.

    If you mean the nomination, I’ll agree with you. But in the general election, he could surprise many like Reagan did.

    Oh, he’d stand a good chance to win the presidency if he got the nod.

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    • January 22, 2015, at 10:10 AM PST
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  13. Mate De Coolidge

    DocJay:

    Matede:Actually, I don’t think we’ll ever have an Atheist president.

    We do now. Obama just sat there in his weird church to get votes. But overtly atheist? Not for a while. Likely not in our lifetimes but an agnostic is possible.

    Yea but he had to pretend to be Christian. I’ve always thought he was a secularist, I don’t know if he’s an Atheist though.

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    • January 22, 2015, at 10:13 AM PST
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  14. CB Toder aka Mama Toad Member

    Matede:

    DocJay:

    Matede:Actually, I don’t think we’ll ever have an Atheist president.

    We do now. Obama just sat there in his weird church to get votes. But overtly atheist? Not for a while. Likely not in our lifetimes but an agnostic is possible.

    Yea but he had to pretend to be Christian. I’ve always thought he was a secularist, I don’t know if he’s an Atheist though.

    Since an atheist does not believe in God, the president clearly cannot be an atheist. There is another term for a man who thinks that he is God, but it isn’t atheist.

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    • January 22, 2015, at 10:14 AM PST
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  15. DocJay Inactive
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    The King Prawn:The left is fine with espoused faith, they just can’t stomach anyone who actually believes the stuff.

    How connected is Paul to his religion?

    I think it’s significant to him from what I’ve read.

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    • January 22, 2015, at 10:16 AM PST
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  16. Vectorman Thatcher

    Mama Toad:

    Yeah, I noticed that. Both you and I were kind of not present on the site for months, and now we’re both posting, so what does that say for the site? Bad news. Sad days….

    I’ve also come back after 1/2 year off to really ruin this site. Such distinguished company I’m with…

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    • January 22, 2015, at 10:16 AM PST
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  17. DocJay Inactive
    DocJay Post author

    Mama Toad:

    Matede:

    DocJay:

    Matede:Actually, I don’t think we’ll ever have an Atheist president.

    We do now. Obama just sat there in his weird church to get votes. But overtly atheist? Not for a while. Likely not in our lifetimes but an agnostic is possible.

    Yea but he had to pretend to be Christian. I’ve always thought he was a secularist, I don’t know if he’s an Atheist though.

    Since an atheist does not believe in God, the president clearly cannot be an atheist. There is another term for a man who thinks that he is God, but it isn’t atheist.

    Matede:

    DocJay:

    Matede:Actually, I don’t think we’ll ever have an Atheist president.

    We do now. Obama just sat there in his weird church to get votes. But overtly atheist? Not for a while. Likely not in our lifetimes but an agnostic is possible.

    Yea but he had to pretend to be Christian. I’ve always thought he was a secularist, I don’t know if he’s an Atheist though.

    Malignant narcissism is a faith all it’s own. If Obama does believe in God, he ought to be very very afraid of the next life.

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    • January 22, 2015, at 10:18 AM PST
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  18. DocJay Inactive
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    Vectorman:

    Mama Toad:

    Yeah, I noticed that. Both you and I were kind of not present on the site for months, and now we’re both posting, so what does that say for the site? Bad news. Sad days….

    I’ve also come back after 1/2 year off to really ruin this site. Such distinguished company I’m with…

    It’s the rapture…the absent ones might be Left Behind. Paging Brent and Whiskey.

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    • January 22, 2015, at 10:19 AM PST
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  19. Tuck Inactive

    We have an overtly religious President in office now. Your question should be: will we have another overtly Christian President in office.

    I think the answer is yes, as it’s still a majority-Christian country, and Christianity is still the fastest-growing religion. But it’s not a sure thing…

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    • January 22, 2015, at 10:23 AM PST
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  20. Vance Richards Member

    This guy sounds like he would be a praying president (even if he isn’t showy about it)

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    • January 22, 2015, at 10:29 AM PST
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  21. CB Toder aka Mama Toad Member

    The King Prawn:The left is fine with espoused faith, they just can’t stomach anyone who actually believes the stuff.

    How connected is Paul to his religion?

    I’ve heard him speak of faith. He speaks up for persecuted Christians. He spoke at the March for Life (edit: 2013, not 2014) last year. I think he is a strong Christian Catholic.

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    • January 22, 2015, at 10:33 AM PST
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  22. EThompson Inactive

    Here is the Marco Rubio farewell speech in Tallahassee in 2010. Yes, it was rather a youthful and politically unsophisticated speech, but if it charmed me, it could charm anyone!

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    • January 22, 2015, at 10:53 AM PST
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  23. DocJay Inactive
    DocJay Post author

    EThompson:Here is the Marco Rubio farewell speech in Tallahassee in 2010. Yes, it was rather a youthful and politically unsophisticated speech, but if it charmed me, it could charm anyone!

    I could charm you. I have these awesome Nike Free fly knit shoes I’m running in these days. mmmmm shoes.

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    • January 22, 2015, at 11:03 AM PST
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  24. Western Chauvinist Member

    Mama Toad:

    Matede:

    DocJay:

    Matede:Actually, I don’t think we’ll ever have an Atheist president.

    We do now. Obama just sat there in his weird church to get votes. But overtly atheist? Not for a while. Likely not in our lifetimes but an agnostic is possible.

    Yea but he had to pretend to be Christian. I’ve always thought he was a secularist, I don’t know if he’s an Atheist though.

    Since an atheist does not believe in God, the president clearly cannot be an atheist. There is another term for a man who thinks that he is God, but it isn’t atheist.

    Yeah, even the devil believes in God — he just opposes Him. Ahem.

    I’ve long argued Obama’s opposition to BAIPA is strong evidence of his atheism (or anti-theism). It just doesn’t gel with believing one will be held to account some day.

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    • January 22, 2015, at 11:06 AM PST
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  25. Merina Smith Inactive

    Bobby Jindal could win. In fact, he’s my favorite. I know Scott Walker is religious, but I’m not sure if he is willing to stand up for his beliefs. My guess is he is willing to. Hey–if he’ll stand up to unions… Anyway, on marriage the party just has to argue for States’ rights, which isn’t a big stretch. And no, this debate is not over by any stretch of the imagination. In fact the actual debate has hardly even started. Just because the courts force something on the nation does not mean the debate is over.

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    • January 22, 2015, at 11:13 AM PST
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  26. CB Toder aka Mama Toad Member

    WC, I was thinking Messiah complex, but maybe you’ve got the story straight…

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    • January 22, 2015, at 11:13 AM PST
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  27. PsychLynne Inactive

    Mama Toad:

    DocJay:

    Mama Toad:See what “the masses” think??

    I thought we were the creme de la creme? Intellectual supremes? Aren’t the Ricochetti a cut above? Or am I just foolin’ myself?

    The class of the place dropped a couple days ago but yes dear, this is the nicest and most intelligent place on the net.

    Yeah, I noticed that. Both you and I were kind of not present on the site for months, and now we’re both posting, so what does that say for the site? Bad news. Sad days….

    Bad news? Sad days? now that you’re both back posting?!! Don’t make me violate the CoC : )

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    • January 22, 2015, at 11:29 AM PST
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  28. Gary McVey Contributor

    Welcome back, Doc! Damn, looks like I’ll have to up my game. I think there could certainly be another overtly religious president, but….

    …no using it as an excuse, like Harriet Myers. “Sure, she’s a lousy SCOTUS nominee, but she’s a good Christian woman”. One of Bush’s most clueless moments.

    …no faking it, like John Kerry with his ridiculous “As a Catholic, I’ve been taught that my conscience must be my guide”. I don’t speak with the religious authority of Ricochet’s SoCons, but for the benefit of any confused Protestant friends, Kerry’s statement is pure (C-of-C violation).

    …as the justification for policies that couldn’t otherwise sell themselves. A Left example is “The West Wing” and Pres. Bartlett, a Catholic whose progressive priest almost gets him to take executive action against the death penalty because “our” morality forbids it.

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    • January 22, 2015, at 11:51 AM PST
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  29. EHerring Coolidge

    We will – as soon as everyone has had their fill of an overtly secular society.

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    • January 22, 2015, at 1:23 PM PST
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  30. DrewInWisconsin, Type Monkey Member

    We certainly have a covertly religious president now.

    (Need I say which religion he covertly adheres to?)

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    • January 22, 2015, at 1:28 PM PST
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