“Hey Gruber – Who’s Stupid Now?”

 

Just when you’ve convinced yourself that those crazy conspiracy theories are the effects of an overactive imagination, just an an exaggerated and unjustifiable paranoia, someone posts something like Gruber’s confession, confirming everything the counselors and analysts told us to ignore, forcing us right back into the political looney bin.  We gasp and say, “we were right all along.” Obamacare is the Soylent Green of leftist political strategy. Democrats are manipulative and disrespectful, even contemptuous of the electorate. It is a party that really is led by Czars, snarky, egotistical, academic intellectuals who have no desire to lead, not even to convince. These people have such contempt for the public that their intentions from the outset are to mislead, deceive and even coerce to achieve the outcomes they desire.

When Mitt Romney was filmed deprecating the other 47% of Americans, those who pay no income tax and those who rely on the government for welfare, housing, food stamps and other subsidies, this was an “a-ha!” moment for Democrats. “See! He does hate the poor!” they cried. No doubt that was galvanizing, but the point Romney was making generally was based in logic and fact – folks who rely on government transfer payments are incentivized to support those who support continuation of those payments, not those (Republicans) who question the economic reality that underlies them. This fact provides a built-in advantage for Democrats who promote the welfare state and court its beneficiaries.

But Romney’s inelegant remarks pale in comparison to Gruber’s admitted deception. He eagerly touts the intended obtuse construction of Obamacare and its political value in duping the stupid electorate. He flaunted his contempt for the American voter. He rendered Obama’s promise of political transparency, already suspect, to the level of outright farce.

And who else was in on this conspiracy? Harry Reid, when he stripped a House spending bill, replaced the text with Obamacare and forced it through the Senate on a reconciliation vote. Nancy Pelosi, when she demanded the votes of her Democrat minions leaving no time to even read the massive bill. Her justification? “We have to pass the bill to find out what’s in it.” We thought that was idiocy then and now we know that it was not idiocy, but strategy. And who was conducting this cascade of political legerdemain? Gruber, and cheering him on, the President. And who went along? The Democrats in Congress. This strategy even convinced Roberts and the Supremes to sing along and call a fine a tax, another Gruber inspired obfuscation meant first to deceive the public and then dupe the Court. It worked!

But wait! Gruber, idiot savant, let his ego and arrogance get ahead of his brain; he let himself be filmed! Now we know. He and Obama’s other minions have always believed that the voters are stupid, that it is their duty to give us what we need (but not what we want) and that they will pay any price (leaving us the tab) to do this.

OK, I’ll agree that the American electorate may be gullible; they did elect Obama, twice, but the last election shows that they are not stupid. And they did this before the Gruber confession became public. Now the truth is out.

Obama is in for a rough couple of years.

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  1. MarciN Member
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    Gruber is a total jerk. I hate to see his name associated with Romney. Romney was pretty good at getting rid of idiots.

    I keep thinking Gruber has an inflated sense of his role in the health care financing reform in Massachusetts. Unless he was the one responsible for those eight changes to the bill that were made between Romney’s desk and the state legislature. That would make some sense.

    Charlie Baker–and I’m not a big fan of his or a big fan of the health care financing reform that took place in Massachusetts, so much so that it should be called BakerCare, but of course, then the Democrats couldn’t pillory presidential contender Romney with it!–was more responsible for the final bill that Romney presented to the legislature than Gruber. I think Gruber is fantasizing. And Obama is delighted to have a useful idiot.

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  2. MisterSirius Member
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    I’m with you on this, and loving it. Just one niggle:

    And they did this before the Gruber confession.  Now the truth is out.

    As I understand it, the video of Gruber bragging on how he had so masterfully fleeced the mark was at a conference/convention (of professional grifters, apparently) over a year ago. But that doesn’t change the main sense of what you wrote, in that the American voters cast their ballots before the Gruber brag became well-known (if not “viral”).

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  3. Son of Spengler Member
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    You put your finger on it. The Democrats require the public not to understand what they’re doing. It’s always deception, euphemisms, lies, coverups. I disagree with your conclusion though. The public is deeply ignorant, and does not care to become otherwise. Obama will skate through, as will most Democrats for the foreseeable future.

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  4. liberal jim Inactive
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    Doug Kimball: When Mitt Romney was filmed deprecating the other 47% of Americans

    This is the guy the establishment of the GOP wanted for their nominee.  The grass roots of the party did not think highly of him and guess what a large number of them stayed home.

    O care was business as usual for the establishment politicians in DC.  The establishment hopes that a significant part of most legislation that is passed is never publicized.  If you think the establishment of the GOP is significantly different for the crooks controlling the WH now, your mistaken.

    For decades “public servants” of modest means go to DC and finally leave rich individuals decades later.  This is true of both parries.  A thinking person might want to consider that it is not the public they are serving.

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  5. Percival Thatcher
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    One of the most important things to remember when you are running a con is to remember not to leave recordings all over everywhere bragging about how you are running a con.

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  6. Son of Spengler Member
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    @SonofSpengler

    Percival:One of the most important things to remember when you are running a con is to remember not to leave recordings all over everywhere bragging about how you are running a con.

    But then people won’t have any record of how brilliant you are.

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  7. user_57515 Member
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    @TomDavis

    The only folks who did not know that what Gruber said was the truth years ago are the same folks who were shocked that Monica was giving Clinton lip service when Clinton finally admitted that was the case.

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  8. user_357321 Inactive
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    @Jordan

    Son of Spengler:

    Percival:One of the most important things to remember when you are running a con is to remember not to leave recordings all over everywhere bragging about how you are running a con.

    But then people won’t have any record of how brilliant you are.

    That’s just it isn’t it.  Like Odysseus telling the Polyphemus who he is at the last possible second, we just can’t help ourselves.  We need the recognition.

    But I doubt Gruber’s Odyssey has a happy ending.

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  9. Western Chauvinist Member
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    Son of Spengler:You put your finger on it. The Democrats require the public not to understand what they’re doing. It’s always deception, euphemisms, lies, coverups. I disagree with your conclusion though. The public is deeply ignorant, and does not care to become otherwise. Obama will skate through, as will most Democrats for the foreseeable future.

    With the media running cover, as usual.

    I really wonder if the only people aware of Gruber are right-wing news junkies. Is Jon Stewart covering this? Does anyone know?

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  10. user_512412 Inactive
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    @RichardFinlay

    I really wonder if the only people aware of Gruber are right-wing news junkies. Is Jon Stewart covering this? Does anyone know?

    Those of the Left who might become aware would likely applaud the cleverness of the political maneuvering.

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  11. Lucy Pevensie Inactive
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    Here’s the beautiful thing about this. He is not referring to the general mass of people, who resisted Obamacare, or to the conservatives who held Obamacare in contempt, as stupid. It’s the Democrats who supported Obamacare who are the deceived and “stupid” ones. We should never let the Obama supporters forget that Obama’s own expert thinks that they are stupid for believing what the administration tells them.

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  12. user_199279 Coolidge
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    @ChrisCampion

    And people wonder why I dislike Progressivism in its many and varied forms.  I’m beginning to think they’re flat-out stupid.

    I’m a bit disappointed, though.  I thought this thread was for the other, real Gruber.

    Hans-Gruber-hans-gruber-24850315-200-200

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  13. Kozak Member
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    Percival: One of the most important things to remember when you are running a con is to remember not to leave recordings all over everywhere bragging about how you are running a con.

    Cell Phones and spy pen cameras  etc have made that nearly impossible.

    If you say it, someone is going to record it.

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  14. user_48342 Member
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    @JosephEagar

    I’ve not been following the Gruber thing.  This has been such an open secret in health policy circles that I was surprised it made the news.  Did serious journalists really try and frame it as a conspiracy theory?

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  15. tigerlily Member
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    Who’d have thought they could come up with a worse spokesman for Obamacare than Ezekiel Emanuel?

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  16. Basil Fawlty Member
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    Of course, Obamacare passed and we’re still saddled with it.   So who is stupid now?

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  17. Western Chauvinist Member
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    Chris Campion:And people wonder why I dislike Progressivism in its many and varied forms. I’m beginning to think they’re flat-out stupid.

    I’m a bit disappointed, though. I thought this thread was for the other, real Gruber.

    Hans-Gruber-hans-gruber-24850315-200-200

    LoVe Alan Rickman! Best Sheriff of Nottingham ever!

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  18. The Mugwump Inactive
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    The Obama administration is staffed by academics who conflate credentials with wisdom.  They live in a highly insular world unleavened by experience.  Such people actually believe that sophistry can substitute for truth.  Mr. Gruber’s statement is irrelevant.  Common sense should have informed everyone concerned with this legislation that it was doomed from the start by its size and complexity.  Hubris invites nemesis.  May she feast on their bones.

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  19. Son of Spengler Member
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    The Mugwump: Hubris invites nemesis. May she feast on their bones.

    I was working so hard to resist the temptation to repost this link, but with this comment, my willpower crumbled.

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  20. Mark Coolidge
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    @GumbyMark

    Something missed in the Gruber remarks is that the people he is calling stupid are the core Democratic supporters. They were the ones that needed to be fooled in order to support Obamacare. In Gruberworld the smart people are those like him who did the foolin’ and those like us who opposed it.

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  21. Rightfromthestart Coolidge
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    Anyone see Angus King on Fox yesterday? I know nothing , I never heard of Gruber. How can you say people don’ t need health care, how cruel! Etc, etc Somehow according to the left before 2009 no one had health CARE! They’ve changed the language again, from health insurance to health CARE. Gaslighting, they will look right in our faces and tell us that Gruber did not say what we heard him say, if anyone insists on talking about it he wil be nutified.

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  22. Snirtler Inactive
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    Son of Spengler:

    The Mugwump: Hubris invites nemesis. May she feast on their bones.

    I was working so hard to resist the temptation to repost this link, but with this comment, my willpower crumbled.

    I remember that post. Ah, the arrogance of the technocrat. There’s a second video where again he calls the public stupid.

    http://dailycaller.com/2014/11/11/yet-another-video-emerges-of-obamacare-architect-calling-americans-stupid-video/

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  23. danoand Inactive
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    grubered (gruber – ed)

    /groo berd/

    verb past tense

    the act, conducted by a self-proclaimed member of the politcal elite, of publicly pronouncing false fantastical claims driven by the perception that the people who have to live with the consequences of those claims are too stupid to know different and not valuable or important enough to treat with the respect due to that same political elite

    See #wegotgrubered

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  24. gts109 Inactive
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    It’s ok. Gruber’s other famous comment could have the effect of dismantling Obamacare, so let’s not be too hard on the guy. He speaks the truth!

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