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  1. Z in MT Member
    Z in MT
    @ZinMT

    Gosh, listen to these party poopers! No wonder conservatives have a hard time getting popular support.

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  2. Black Prince Inactive
    Black Prince
    @BlackPrince

    Z in MT:Gosh, listen to these party poopers! No wonder conservatives have a hard time getting popular support.

    As they say, “Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me.” It’s not about winning…it’s about winning and actually DOING something. My message to the Republicans: Impress me. Don’t worry, my fellow Ricochetians, I’m not holding my breath.

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  3. Byron Horatio Inactive
    Byron Horatio
    @ByronHoratio

    Z,

    I don’t remember who it was here, but in 2012 I was called a “nagging nabob of negativity” for saying that we were doomed to lose that year.

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  4. user_44643 Inactive
    user_44643
    @MikeLaRoche

    In another thread, I predicted a 10-seat pickup for the Republican Party.  You may think me a wild-eyed optimist, but if you do, you are wrong.  Whether the GOP picks up six, eight, ten, or twelve Senate seats tomorrow, nothing will change.  The Republican Party stands for nothing and believes in nothing.  On issue after issue – the budget, immigration, abortion, you name it – they accept the left’s framing and narrative, thus assuring the left will prevail.  The Republican Party is a party of losers.  And that is why I cut my ties with them two years ago and have no regrets for having done so.

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  5. Douglas Inactive
    Douglas
    @Douglas

    Paul Dougherty:Tomorrow I slake my thirst for tears. Schadenfreude is the order of the day. By Thursday I fully expect the MSM pieces on the Death of Progressivism, with attending phrases like “the now discredited theories of Think Progress”.Anyone want to lay odds?

    By Thursday, I fully expect the MSM to declare that:

    • This wasn’t really about Obama
    • Obamacare is actually pretty popular
    • The public voted against incumbents, not Democrats or Liberalism
    • These results really aren’t unusual for a midterm
    • Hillary will wash all this away in 2016 anyway
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  6. user_183043 Member
    user_183043
    @FrankMonaldo

    Byron Horatio:I’m betting on a 50/50 Senate split.People are nuts thinking we’ll win 8.The same choirs singing of 53 senate seats tomorrow are the same who sang of an assured Romney landslide.

    Actually, not quite. Nate Silver had a high probability of a Obama victory and now a 76% chance of Republican Senate victory.

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  7. user_199279 Coolidge
    user_199279
    @ChrisCampion

    Z in MT:It is worth it just to get Harry Reid out of the majority leader spot.Worst man in DC.

    Man?  He’s many things; he’s not one of those.

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  8. aardo vozz Member
    aardo vozz
    @aardovozz

    Some thoughts on the post and comments:

    1. Maybe we should wait until the results are in before gloating.

    2. Based on previous history, I agree it is reasonable not to expect much if the Republicans take control of the senate.  That said,anything good that does happen can be looked on as a pleasant surprise.

    3. Republican control of the senate means that legislation from the congress which was blocked by Senator Reid from being voted on can now be brought to a vote. Those votes will be part of a senator’s record, which ANY senator up for reelection will have to defend in the 2016 election. Since more Senate Republicans than Democrats will be up for reelection in 2016, Republicans voting against Republican-sponsored bills from the House(such as budgets, IRS reform, and tax reform) could be a dicey business. While the President would probably veto these bills, that would still give the Republicans issues to run on in 2016.

    4. In conclusion, if the Republicans win a majority in the Senate, the horse may sing. (Great story, Seawriter!). The difference between the optimists and the pessimists seems to be more about which end of the horse winds up singing. If the right end of the horse sings, the Republicans will have a record to build on in 2016. If the wrong end of the horse sings,the results could be bad. VERY,VERY bad.

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  9. Seawriter Contributor
    Seawriter
    @Seawriter

    aardo vozz: The difference between the optimists and the pessimists seems to be more about which end of the horse winds up singing.

    Perfect!

    Seawriter

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  10. virgil15marlow@yahoo.com Coolidge
    virgil15marlow@yahoo.com
    @Manny

    LOL, I’m still too nervous to gloat.  I’ll wait until tonight.  I’m predicting a tidal wave and a pick up of ten Senate seats, but I can’t predict the Dem turnout machine.

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  11. user_75648 Thatcher
    user_75648
    @JohnHendrix

    This evening I’ll be checking into MSNBC from time to time.  I want to watch them struggling to keep a stiff upper lip as our torpedoes slam home.

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  12. Owen Findy Inactive
    Owen Findy
    @OwenFindy

    billy: So we are excited why, exactly?

    Excellent point.

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  13. Z in MT Member
    Z in MT
    @ZinMT

    In 2012 the polls were against us. If optimism in the face of evidence is foolish, so is pessimism.

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  14. billy Inactive
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    @billy

    One possible thing to get excited by today: Pat Roberts might lose. If he does then the sophisticated establishment types will have to stop lecturing us naive tea party types about our reckless gung ho candidates that we get excited about.

    Christine O’Donnel  lost Delaware.

    Pat Roberts will have lost Kansas.

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  15. wmartin Member
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    @

    billy:One possible thing to get excited by today: Pat Roberts might lose. If he does then the sophisticated establishment types will have to stop lecturing us naive tea party types about our reckless gung ho candidates that we get excited about.

    Christine O’Donnel lost Delaware.

    Pat Roberts will have lost Kansas.

    One thing to keep in mind: Pat Roberts was a rock-solid vote against Amnesty for illegals, whereas Lamar Alexander voted for the Gang of Eight bill. I don’t know that losing Roberts is where we need to send any kind of anti-establishment message.

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  16. Douglas Inactive
    Douglas
    @Douglas

    John Hendrix:This evening I’ll be checking into MSNBC from time to time. I want to watch them struggling to keep a stiff upper lip as our torpedoes slam home.

    As Jonah Goldberg put it, the sound barrier will be broken from the speed of goal posts moving today. I wouldn’t watch MSNBC to get any kind of satisfaction at their pain. They’ll just pretend it was all irrelevant anyway.

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  17. user_352043 Coolidge
    user_352043
    @AmySchley

    wmartin: One thing to keep in mind: Pat Roberts was a rock-solid vote against Amnesty for illegals, whereas Lamar Alexander voted for the Gang of Eight bill. I don’t know that losing Roberts is where we need to send any kind of anti-establishment message.

    I did my part for Roberts even if I had to hold my nose a bit.  I really would prefer a system where our politicians retire before they hit their eighties, but better him than Ohrman.

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  18. user_51254 Member
    user_51254
    @BereketKelile

    Republicans in the Senate don’t have to do anything to be successful. They just have to obstruct Obama’s agenda. I don’t care if they play golf the whole time. Deadlock is good enough for me. If we want to see a change in policy then we have to put our guy in the Oval Office.

    Oh, and I’m sure they’ll downplay the results saying that it wasn’t a wave unless Kashkari beats Brown in California.

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  19. EThompson Member
    EThompson
    @

    Mike LaRoche:In another thread, I predicted a 10-seat pickup for the Republican Party. You may think me a wild-eyed optimist, but if you do, you are wrong. Whether the GOP picks up six, eight, ten, or twelve Senate seats tomorrow, nothing will change. The Republican Party stands for nothing and believes in nothing. On issue after issue – the budget, immigration, abortion, you name it – they accept the left’s framing and narrative, thus assuring the left will prevail. The Republican Party is a party of losers. And that is why I cut my ties with them two years ago and have no regrets for having done so.

    I understand your frustration but I believe part of the problem is that we continue to elect politicians whose identity is entwined with the title of “Senator” or “Congressman.” Professional politicians, if you will.

    This is the reason I have always been attracted to candidates who have lived, worked, and succeeded in the private sector- Reagan, Perot, Romney, and my current governor Rick Scott. Financial acumen and an understanding of global economics brings an enormous sophistication in dealing with even the world stage of foreign policy.

    The most attractive quality of these types of candidates is that the decisions they make in office are far more likely to be based upon what they think is best for their constituencies and not for their careers.

    After all, they’ve already been there, done that.

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  20. aardo vozz Member
    aardo vozz
    @aardovozz

    Seawriter:

    aardo vozz: The difference between the optimists and the pessimists seems to be more about which end of the horse winds up singing.

    Perfect!

    Seawriter

    Glad you liked it. Despite the Republican’s recent track record, I’m still rooting for the right end of the horse.

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  21. virgil15marlow@yahoo.com Coolidge
    virgil15marlow@yahoo.com
    @Manny

    OK, now I can gloat!  Whoo hoo!

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