Contributor Post Created with Sketch. ISIS Beheads American Journalist, Threatens Another

 

1408481985485.cachedBreaking news out of the Middle East:

In a video posted online Tuesday, ISIS beheads James Wright Foley, an American freelance journalist who was captured in Syria in 2012. The video says the killing is a warning to the U.S. to end its intervention in Iraq. The video also shows Steven Sotloff, a freelance journalist working for Time, and threatens that he will be next. Sotloff’s kidnapping seems to have been kept secret until now. Foley was working as a photographer in Syria for AFP when he was taken. The year prior he had been kidnapped in Libya.

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  1. Jon Gabriel, Ed. King

    Prayers for the families of James Foley and Steven Sotloff.

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    • August 19, 2014, at 2:29 PM PDT
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  2. Tom Meyer, Common Citizen Contributor

    Someone needs to explain to ISIS that murdering a captured journalist isn’t impressive; it’s just evil and disgusting.

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    • August 19, 2014, at 2:39 PM PDT
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  3. Biden Pure Demagogue Inactive
    Biden Pure DemagogueJoined in the first year of Ricochet Ricochet Charter Member

    Tom Meyer, Ed.:

    Someone needs to explain to ISIS that murdering a captured journalist isn’t impressive; it’s just evil and disgusting.

     Tell that to The Crocodile.

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    • August 19, 2014, at 2:42 PM PDT
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  4. Tim H. Member

    For some reason, this horrifies me—it makes me feel much worse than if they had spontaneously shot and killed the same reporter on the street. Right now, I want to shout the equivalent of “Perdicaris alive or Raisuli dead!”, and I want a president with the guts of Teddy Roosevelt to punish these [CoC redacted]!

    (Also, I won’t get too caught up in debating the actual outcome of the Perdicaris episode.)

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    • August 19, 2014, at 2:48 PM PDT
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  5. Man With the Axe Member

    My prediction of the response from official Washington: “And as horrific as this tragedy was, if our diversity becomes a casualty, I think that’s worse.”

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    • August 19, 2014, at 2:52 PM PDT
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  6. Tom Meyer, Common Citizen Contributor

    Pseudodionysius: Tell that to The Crocodile.

    Oh, don’t get me wrong: they’re well beyond explaining to. Horrific as this is — and I concede I’m a bit queasy after seeing the pictures and can only imagine what the man went through and what his family must be feeling — it’s not really that scary.  You mean you can ritually murder unarmed combatants with a knife? Humans figured out how to do that millennia ago. Congrats.

    Color me disgusted and angry, but thoroughly unimpressed.

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    • August 19, 2014, at 2:55 PM PDT
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  7. Hammer, The Member

    Tom Meyer, Ed.:

    Someone needs to explain to ISIS that murdering a captured journalist isn’t impressive; it’s just evil and disgusting.

    I disagree.

    The only reason ISIS captures and murders a journalist is because they know that the US – especially this administration – will respond by caving. If our response was to launch a full scale invasion and literally annihilate ISIS, they would not think that murdering journalists is in any way effective. If we could respond by wiping out their entire organization and taking over their country, this kind of thing wouldn’t happen. And that is absolutely how we should respond.

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    • August 19, 2014, at 3:02 PM PDT
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  8. Lady Jane Grey Inactive

    “A fate worse than death” was once a phrase used to describe dishonor. It seems these days that capture is a fate leading only to a death with the executioner coercing the condemned to dishonor themselves via a dictated script.

    ISIS wants us to take them seriously as a bunch of throat-hacking America-haters. It’s past time that we do so.

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    • August 19, 2014, at 3:06 PM PDT
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  9. Valiuth Inactive
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    My God! It should be mentioned that of course this kind of behavior is routine practice for ISIS. I guess their victim being an American makes it more personal, but these people revel in sadistic violence and there is no shortage of self supplied evidence of their barbarity and depravity. These people are orcs. There can be no mistake about this. The more Americans become exposed to their evil the more it should strengthen our resolve that we must stamp these (expletive) out.

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    • August 19, 2014, at 3:08 PM PDT
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  10. James Gawron Thatcher
    James GawronJoined in the first year of Ricochet Ricochet Charter Member

    Editors,

    This is the face of jihad. They are not terrorists. They are not militants. They are jihadists. They murder in ways prescribed by the Koran. They justify violent conquest of any and all nations. They justify conversion by the sword. Extortion & kidnapping are assumed tactics to be used. Cease fires, truces, and treaties are just temporary subterfuges to gain time, rearm, and reinforce.

    This is not Islamaphobia. A moderate Muslim is one who has renounced jihad. A radical Muslim is one who has not. Jihad is an unlimited declaration of war on anyone who is not Muslim. We can not live with these people because they will not live with us. They give us no choice.

    Regards.

    Jim

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    • August 19, 2014, at 3:11 PM PDT
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  11. Tom Meyer, Common Citizen Contributor

    Ryan M: The only reason ISIS captures and murders a journalist is because they know that the US – especially this administration – will respond by caving. If our response was to launch a full scale invasion and literally annihilate ISIS, they would not think that murdering journalists is in any way effective. If we could respond by wiping out their entire organization and taking over their country, this kind of thing wouldn’t happen. And that is absolutely how we should respond.

    We don’t necessarily disagree. My comment was about the proper emotional response, not whether we should go in or not. These barbarians deserve our contempt, not our fear.

    I supported the 2003 invasion of Iraq, as well as the surge, and I could well be persuaded to support another campaign (this moves me in the direction of doing so, though I’m not over the fence yet). I just don’t want us confusing their evil with their competence.

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    • August 19, 2014, at 3:12 PM PDT
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  12. Tim H. Member

    I want the president to lobby Congress to pass a conditional declaration of war—an “authorization to use force,” if you will—that says if they kidnap or kill one more American, that we will go to war against them and will arm others who fight them.

    Our government exists to protect the rights of our citizens, and among these are *life*…

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    • August 19, 2014, at 3:13 PM PDT
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  13. Tom Meyer, Common Citizen Contributor

    James Gawron: This is the face of jihad. They are not terrorists. They are not militants. They are jihadists. They murder in ways prescribed by the Koran. They justify violent conquest of any and all nations. They justify conversion by the sword. Extortion & kidnapping are assumed tactics to be used. Cease fires, truces, and treaties are just temporary subterfuges to gain time, rearm, and reinforce.

     Again, we’re really not disagreeing.

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    • August 19, 2014, at 3:21 PM PDT
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  14. EHerring Coolidge

    Hey Obama, these [I will redact this for you] just mocked your manhood.

    There have always been barbarians in our midst, but in previous centuries, civilized men had the balls to counter with the brutal strength to render a Carthage-like solution.

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    • August 19, 2014, at 3:22 PM PDT
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  15. Roberto, Crusty Old Timer LLC Member
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    Valiuth:

    My God! It should be mentioned that of course this kind of behavior is routine practice for ISIS.

    No, it should be mentioned that with regards to ISIS a mere beheading is exercising “restraint”. 

    Tens of thousand of Yazidis fled their ancient homeland of Sinjar and other villages to escape a dramatic push by the Sunni militants who regard the ethnic minority as devil worshippers who must embrace their radical version of Islam or die. […]

    “They tied the hands of one woman to the back of a car and her legs to another car and they split her into two,” he said beside makeshift tents as women cried.

    http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/08/18/us-iraq-security-yazidis-idUSKBN0GI1QK20140818?feedType=RSS&feedName=worldNews

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    • August 19, 2014, at 3:27 PM PDT
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  16. danys Thatcher
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    Roberto:

    Valiuth:

    My God! It should be mentioned that of course this kind of behavior is routine practice for ISIS.

    No, it should be mentioned that with regards to ISIS a mere beheading is exercising “restraint”.

    Tens of thousand of Yazidis fled their ancient homeland of Sinjar and other villages to escape a dramatic push by the Sunni militants who regard the ethnic minority as devil worshippers who must embrace their radical version of Islam or die. […]

    “They tied the hands of one woman to the back of a car and her legs to another car and they split her into two,” he said beside makeshift tents as women cried.

    http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/08/18/us-iraq-security-yazidis-idUSKBN0GI1QK20140818?feedType=RSS&feedName=worldNews

    ISIS slaughters the unarmed & bound. ISIS is evil. Oh, for a president with the moral courage and confidence to act not merely to condemn.

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    • August 19, 2014, at 3:42 PM PDT
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  17. A.D.P. Efferson Contributor

    Dear God.

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    • August 19, 2014, at 3:45 PM PDT
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  18. Hammer, The Member

    Tom Meyer, Ed.:

    We don’t necessarily disagree. My comment was about the proper emotional response, not whether we should go in or not. These barbarians deserve our contempt, not our fear.

    I supported the 2003 invasion of Iraq, as well as the surge, and I could well be persuaded to support another campaign (this moves me in the direction of doing so, though I’m not over the fence yet). I just don’t want us confusing their evil with their competence.

     I assumed we were in agreement. Although I add that our contempt should take the form of literally wiping them off the face of the earth. I am inclined to agree with James Gawron on this one. I’ve studied some small amount of Islam, and he’s right about it not being inconsistent with the more militant branches. He’s also right about their being peaceful muslims… that’s the problem. Liberals always talk about Japaneze internment camps or discrimination or profiling. I think these things are bad, but they don’t justify inaction. They aren’t shields like little children for terrorists to hide behind. Peaceful muslims are a casualty of the radical, not us.

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    • August 19, 2014, at 4:03 PM PDT
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  19. outstripp Inactive

    Someone needs to explain to ISIS that murdering a captured journalist isn’t impressive

    Evil does not result from a lack of knowledge.

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    • August 19, 2014, at 4:12 PM PDT
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  20. Doctor Bass Monkey Inactive

    This will continue unless and until we are willing to do what is necessary to eradicate them once and for all. The purpose of the army is not to win hearts and minds but to kill people.

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    • August 19, 2014, at 4:18 PM PDT
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  21. Biden Pure Demagogue Inactive
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    A man has survived being crucified by Isis in Syria, after the jihadists raided his village and nailed him to a cross for eight hours. The unnamed man from Al-Bab, near the border with Turkey, was crucified as a punishment, the Syrian Observatory for Human Rights said.

    He managed to survive the ordeal.

    But eight others who received the same punishment did not survive. The men, from Deir Hafer in the east of Aleppo province, were subjected to the same treatment and crucified “in the main square of the village, where their bodies will remain for three days”, the Britain-based monitor said.

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    • August 19, 2014, at 4:35 PM PDT
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  22. Biden Pure Demagogue Inactive
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    Someone needs to explain to ISIS that murdering a captured journalist isn’t impressive

    Jan Sobieski and the Winged Hussars have been the best historical example.

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    • August 19, 2014, at 4:39 PM PDT
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  23. Biden Pure Demagogue Inactive
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    Duplicate post.

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    • August 19, 2014, at 4:40 PM PDT
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  24. Stephen Hall Inactive

    ISIS delenda est.

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    • August 19, 2014, at 4:53 PM PDT
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  25. Profile Photo Member

    Lord, have mercy!….St. Michael the Archangel, defend us in battle…

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    • August 19, 2014, at 5:19 PM PDT
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  26. James Gawron Thatcher
    James GawronJoined in the first year of Ricochet Ricochet Charter Member

    Pseudodionysius:

    Someone needs to explain to ISIS that murdering a captured journalist isn’t impressive

    Jan Sobieski and the Winged Hussars have been the best historical example.

    Pseud,

    “Veni, vidi, Deus vicit” – “I came, I saw, Gd conquered”

    Regards,

    Jim

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    • August 19, 2014, at 5:40 PM PDT
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  27. MJBubba Inactive

    Pseudodionysius (#21),

    Those crucifixions were in June. There were additional crucifixions, in both Syria and Iraq, in July.

    Kyrie Eleison

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    • August 19, 2014, at 6:18 PM PDT
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  28. Paul J. Croeber Inactive

    I have a friend from college that grew up with Foley and I absolutely cannot imagine what he and the family are going through. These next few days and weeks are going to be important as Ferguson gets knocked off the front page and existential threats come to the fore. They will kidnap you, they will behead you, and they carry western passports. 

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    • August 19, 2014, at 7:24 PM PDT
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  29. Retail Lawyer Member

    Whiskey Sam:

    This will continue unless and until we are willing to do what is necessary to eradicate them once and for all. The purpose of the army is not to win hearts and minds but to kill people.

     Exactly!
    one would think that these sort of snuff films would back off, at least at the margins, the post-modern moral equivalence crowd. In the meantime, I’ll refer to this bunch as “Headchoppers of Peace”. There. Now I’ll go back to pondering John Yoo’s reprehensible torture memos.

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    • August 19, 2014, at 8:08 PM PDT
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  30. Teresa Mendoza Inactive

    I saw the video before YouTube took it down. James Foley died with courage and honor. Who can remind me of the name of the Italian hostage whose last words were before his beheading reportedly were, “I’ll show you how an Italian dies.” God, for that kind of bravery. I’m just in awe. But knowing that lefty weakling in the White House will do ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to avenge them – or any of us, if the Fates may have it — makes me sick. I can’t even sleep.

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    • August 19, 2014, at 11:06 PM PDT
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